Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10065589)

Religion and religious beliefs bring great peace and comfort to some. I really dont understand the need for some people to ridicule and mock people of faith.

Some people use religion to excuse and explain atrocities as though they were carrying out some greater orders.

I don't agree with pushing religion onto children, my parent's (neither of whom ever attend church) were really pissed off that I didn't have.my some christened but I said he should choose as and when he wants to get christened. He may want to follow another religion, he may want to become a jedi and when he decides that he can do it.

I believe Jesus was a very religious man of his time. Son of god, born if a virgin....Not so much but I remain open minded and respect people's wishes to believe that.

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10065602)

LT, abuse in Catholic Church was more than anywhere else because there's celibacy. Celibacy was not invented by Jesus or Old Testament. It was added later, by people.
I don't see why Jesus should be blamed for that and Jesus is the topic of your thread.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10065607)

I dont think anyone is blaming Jesus, why do you say that?

The fault lies in a cult that is based on hideous lies and abuse of power

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10065615)

I get confused. We're moving all over the place with this convo: Jesus, later doctrinal additions, Islam, church as institution, geopolitics...

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10065607)

I dont think anyone is blaming Jesus, why do you say that?

The fault lies in a cult that is based on hideous lies and abuse of power

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10065618)

All kinds of people abuse their power that's pretty evident . Which is what I've been saying.

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10065624)

You're simplifying too much, LT. I'm with GoldHeart on this

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10065635)

LT isn't making sense

Like I said if a teacher is doing illegal stuff ,are we going to tar every school and teacher with the same brush ?.

And some Athiests force their opinions on other and they are argumentative , just because others have religion .

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10065673)

No one including myself has said that abuse is only in religion

I dont know what you are railing against

You seem to be saying that just because abuse of children occurs else where we should somehow dismiss it

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10065635)

LT isn't making sense

Like I said if a teacher is doing illegal stuff ,are we going to tar every school and teacher with the same brush ?.

And some Athiests force their opinions on other and they are argumentative , just because others have religion .

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10065792)

Stop twisting things :nono:
I never said we should dismiss it . You were the one acting like Religion is abuse , which is not true .

Originally Posted by montblanc (Post 10065840)

we stan a king

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10065847)

Christ? Or LT?

Originally Posted by montblanc (Post 10065849)

if LT can walk on water then him too :hehe:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10065836)

Of course its abuse

Do you not consider lying to children to make them feel guilty abuse?

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10066063)

Well been a while since we've had a thread like this, what's spurred the sudden need to belittle Christianity?

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10066055)

Mary is a slaggy slag Jesus was a laddy lad he should have just got with Betty