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Niamh. 06-07-2018 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10074309)
It's possible to show authority without hitting them (the same as it is with kids)
Of course it is. The most confusing thing is people who think it's fine to hit a child but evil to hit a dog

caprimint 06-07-2018 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10072971)
Neem i have seen too many owners where the fecking dog thinks its the boss of the house

"oh dont move him from the sofa he can get quite snappy"

i mean wtaf? :conf:
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10073014)
you sound like the type of owner who sits on the carpet and eats his tea whilst the dog snoozes on the best chair
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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10073067)
Its the owners who deserve the slap not the dogs !! Owners who think you should fall in love with their mutt ,Owners who dress the poor thing in a dickie bow thinking it looks good ,when it actually looks stupid, owners who spend more on clothes for the dog than they do their kids ,owners who think its fine to let their dog shed its entire fur over your black jeans, owners who dont clean the dog **** up from the pavements .... No the dogs dont deserve a slap .....the owners do
:joker::joker::joker::joker:

Omg this thread is too much. I should've known there would be some hilarious replies with Chuff and LT posting in here though. :joker:

Twosugars 06-07-2018 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10074315)
Of course it is. The most confusing thing is people who think it's fine to hit a child but evil to hit a dog
so how this experiment with parallel threads (kids/dogs) is coming along?
have you identified anybody who thinks like that?

user104658 06-07-2018 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10074305)
the MRI experiments with oxytocin release in the brain confirm that dogs have the same reaction to their owners like owners have to them, love
OK so they they experience something which chemically resembles (the human concept of) love... But then, we could go into a much deeper philosophical discussion there Twosugars... Namely, "what is the biological purpose of love".

But that's a bit in depth (and sort of grim / cynical) for a nice sunny afternoon :joker:

Ant. 06-07-2018 01:20 PM
I'm no dog expert but I've read on multiple places that hitting dogs doesn't 'discipline' them

I wouldn't have it in me to hit my dogs anyway

caprimint 06-07-2018 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10074323)
so how this experiment with parallel threads (kids/dogs) is coming along?
have you identified anybody who thinks like that?
I'm sure there are plenty actually :laugh:

Kazanne 06-07-2018 01:22 PM
Dogs don't have that full understanding though ,children over a certain age do.I am not saying we should smack kids just that if we do they know what its for,Dogs not so much, plus a reactionary slap for running in the road surely hurts less than being run over in the road.

user104658 06-07-2018 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10074323)
so how this experiment with parallel threads (kids/dogs) is coming along?
have you identified anybody who thinks like that?
There actually seem to be a few :joker:. At least LT is consistent...

Niamh. 06-07-2018 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10074323)
so how this experiment with parallel threads (kids/dogs) is coming along?
have you identified anybody who thinks like that?
Adam, Chuff, Glenn, Nicky, maybe Kizzy but I'm not sure if she was joking or serious in the kids thread and kazanne I'm not sure she wasn't overly clear about the smacking thing in the other thread :think:

Twosugars 06-07-2018 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10074325)
OK so they they experience something which chemically resembles (the human concept of) love... But then, we could go into a much deeper philosophical discussion there Twosugars... Namely, "what is the biological purpose of love".

But that's a bit in depth (and sort of grim / cynical) for a nice sunny afternoon :joker:
it'd have to be a brand new thread, good topic tho

of course there's a biological purpose to love, but there's also selfless love (I hope)
luckily dogs don't have comprehension of such fine distinctions and love us as best they can
and I'll take this "thoughtless" love, as will you

edit: muddled up my argument so apologies, TS

Niamh. 06-07-2018 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10074331)
Dogs don't have that full understanding though ,children over a certain age do.I am not saying we should smack kids just that if we do they know what its for,Dogs not so much, plus a reactionary slap for running in the road surely hurts less than being run over in the road.
I don't advocate either but I think in theory if you did slap a dog on the nose as they're doing the thing you don't want them to they would associate it with whatever they'd done but it has to be right when they're doing it. Positive training for dogs of course is much better

Twosugars 06-07-2018 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10074337)
Adam, Chuff, Glenn, Nicky, maybe Kizzy but I'm not sure if she was joking or serious in the kids thread and kazanne I'm not sure she wasn't overly clear about the smacking thing in the other thread :think:
Nicky? :shocked: Despite being thumped on the head? :worry:

Niamh. 06-07-2018 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10074397)
Nicky? :shocked: Despite being thumped on the head? :worry:
oh no sorry you're right I wronged Nicky there

Vicky. 06-07-2018 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10073021)
Bite them back if they bite you.
Our vet told me to do that when Ryu was a pup and we were having issues with bites. I argued that it wouldn't help and was cruel but she insisted its the best way. Not really hard, but hard enough to make him yelp :/

Kizzy 06-07-2018 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10074337)
Adam, Chuff, Glenn, Nicky, maybe Kizzy but I'm not sure if she was joking or serious in the kids thread and kazanne I'm not sure she wasn't overly clear about the smacking thing in the other thread :think:
Like the kids I have tapped the dog too... And I literally mean a tap on the 'bum' and twice on the shnoz ( for getting into the bin)

Niamh. 06-07-2018 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10074552)
Like the kids I have tapped the dog too... And I literally mean a tap on the 'bum' and twice on the shnoz ( for getting into the bin)
the kids or the dog? :fan:

Kizzy 06-07-2018 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10074554)
the kids or the dog? :fan:
both :laugh:

jaxie 06-07-2018 04:39 PM
Well no apart from a little scolding now and then because like hitting children all you would teach them is fear and hitting out. The question should be should owners train their dogs. Absolutely they should with kindness and reward.


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