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Beso 26-07-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10109180)
Doubt it's the kids interested in that, another generation maybe...

his stepdads generation...?

Tom4784 26-07-2018 03:26 PM

If he hasn't been bullied for it before at the school, he won't get bullied now. Thankfully the younger generations are more accepting of homosexuality than the older generations.

Matthew. 26-07-2018 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10109188)
poor boy his mum has failed him and now he will be ridiculed and bullied

:(

his mum has failed him because he wants to be a drag queen?

Matthew. 26-07-2018 03:33 PM

LT, out of interest, what do you mean by “his mum has failed him”?

ethanjames 26-07-2018 03:39 PM

honestly really don't see the problem if the act is just him lipsynicing to a song whats the issue?? it most likely wasn't sexualised if the teachers helped him glad hes getting this amount of support overall though

ethanjames 26-07-2018 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109172)
Kids will be wanting to blackface next fgs.

just wondering how is this similar in any regards? a non threatening art form shouldn't be compared to an incredibly racist act

glibberglobber 26-07-2018 03:46 PM

Good on that headteacher :clap:

Ammi 26-07-2018 03:49 PM

..I wonder if all of the other parents of children in the talent contest have failed them as well and whether all of those other children will get ridiculed and bullied for their acts...his act was no different from any other child’s, it was agreed and rehearsed with support of the staff apparently until the day before when the head had a list of the acts...why would someone have failed their child because their act was drag as opposed to singing or a comedy act or whatever...all of the acts create an opportunity to showcase something a pupil loves to do and has interest in...none with any difference to the other...

Beso 26-07-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ethanjames (Post 10109223)
just wondering how is this similar in any regards? a non threatening art form shouldn't be compared to an incredibly racist act

Whats racist about dressing up as eddie murphy or some othe black entertainer? As long as you aint negatively stereotyping them, surely its ok to impersonate them by applying some make up and rehearse for weeks with your step dad?..

Or would it be ok for this kid to have blacked up shoved some pillows up his shirt and down his tights to impersonate that massively fat black drag act?

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2018 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109264)
Whats racist about dressing up as eddie murphy or some othe black entertainer? As long as you aint negatively stereotyping them, surely its ok to impersonate them by applying some make up and rehearse for weeks with your step dad?..

Or would it be ok for this kid to have blacked up shoved some pillows up his shirt and down his tights to impersonate that massively fat black drag act?

great point parmy

Nicky91 26-07-2018 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109264)
Whats racist about dressing up as eddie murphy or some othe black entertainer? As long as you aint negatively stereotyping them, surely its ok to impersonate them by applying some make up and rehearse for weeks with your step dad?..

Or would it be ok for this kid to have blacked up shoved some pillows up his shirt and down his tights to impersonate that massively fat black drag act?

maybe impersonating them just because they are their idols

Beso 26-07-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10109275)
maybe impersonating them just because they are their idols

Yeah...like i do with bob marley at parties.

Nicky91 26-07-2018 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109280)
Yeah...like i do with bob marley at parties.

wow yes i also like reggae music

armand.kay 26-07-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109264)
Whats racist about dressing up as eddie murphy or some othe black entertainer? As long as you aint negatively stereotyping them, surely its ok to impersonate them by applying some make up and rehearse for weeks with your step dad?..

Or would it be ok for this kid to have blacked up shoved some pillows up his shirt and down his tights to impersonate that massively fat black drag act?

no that would not be ok lol.

Also it is possible to dress up as a black person without blackening your skin. A good example is Miley Cyrus's Lil Kim costume

Kazanne 26-07-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10109114)
Would you all want a girl to do a strip dance??? Sexualized stuff has no place in schools

Totally agree Adam,kids are already sexualised far too much,just let them be kids at school ,they will have enough of that sort of stuff shoved in their faces when they are older.

Tom4784 26-07-2018 04:08 PM

Trying to justify blackface with drag.... Good grief.

The two aren't comparable and it's grim and a bit indicative of the direction of SD that it's even been suggested with a straight face.

Blackface is racist and offensive because the act of it is meant to be demeaning towards a whole race. Embodying a drag persona and lipsyncing on a stage to Carly Rae Jepsen is not an attack on anyone and it's something that's been embodied by people of all races and creeds, you've even got bioqueens who are female drag queens.

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2018 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10109304)
Totally agree Adam,kids are already sexualised far too much,just let them be kids at school ,they will have enough of that sort of stuff shoved in their faces when they are older.

Yes Kaz its a victory for common sense and decency and the school should be rightly applauded. I note all the DM top comments are in support of this brave school.

Tom4784 26-07-2018 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10109304)
Totally agree Adam,kids are already sexualised far too much,just let them be kids at school ,they will have enough of that sort of stuff shoved in their faces when they are older.

Why do you think that this drag performance was canned for being sexualised when it got the okay from the teachers for weeks beforehand?

Beso 26-07-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10109307)
Trying to justify blackface with drag.... Good grief.

The two aren't comparable and it's grim and a bit indicative of the direction of SD that it's even been suggested with a straight face.

Blackface is racist and offensive because the act of it is meant to be demeaning towards a whole race. Embodying a drag persona and lipsyncing on a stage to Carly Rae Jepsen is not an attack on anyone and it's something that's been embodied by people of all races and creeds, you've even got bioqueens who are female drag queens.

Blackfacing is only racist if negative stereotyping is used in the act..

So if you just sing or act like the act you are impersonating, just like this kid was doing then the 2 are exactly the same..so you either allow both or deny both..thats how i see it.:shrug:

Beso 26-07-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10109301)
no that would not be ok lol.

Also it is possible to dress up as a black person without blackening your skin. A good example is Miley Cyrus's Lil Kim costume

If i saw that i would just see a woman in a dress:shrug:

Matthew. 26-07-2018 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109320)
Blackfacing is only racist if

incorrect before the point is even made.

armand.kay 26-07-2018 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109327)
If i saw that i would just see a woman in a dress:shrug:

you mean to tell me that if you knew who lil kim was and how iconic this look was you would be able to tell who she's dressed as because she hasn't lathered on some ****ty tan
http://straightfromthea.com/wp-conte...ween-20131.png

Kazanne 26-07-2018 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109320)
Blackfacing is only racist if negative stereotyping is used in the act..

So if you just sing or act like the act you are impersonating, just like this kid was doing then the 2 are exactly the same..so you either allow both or deny both..thats how i see it.:shrug:

I agree ,if it's for a show and there is no negative connotations they should be able to dress up or black up,or both. If it's ok for one to mimic ,it's ok for the other.

Tom4784 26-07-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109320)
Blackfacing is only racist if negative stereotyping is used in the act..

So if you just sing or act like the act you are impersonating, just like this kid was doing then the 2 are exactly the same..so you either allow both or deny both..thats how i see it.:shrug:

The act of blackface in itself is racist. There's no ifs or buts about it.

armand.kay 26-07-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10109338)
I agree ,if it's for a show and there is no negative connotations they should be able to dress up or black up,or both. If it's ok for one to mimic ,it's ok for the other.

Are you seriously saying that you hold blackface and drag in the same regard?


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