I am very happy with this. Finally someone is doing something to force the labour leadership to finally tackle the rising issue of anti semitism which is now institutionally engrained within the Labour Party.

I have trouble believing Angela is a staunch opponent of racism :eyes:

(yes, yes, probably just an awful choice of wording, etc.)

They are just back benchers
No Money for a New Party

honestly, if Arista says "no money for new party" once again :facepalm:

hold your water Arista, let's wait and see

[Is it a political party?

No. It is a small business - technically a limited company - called Gemini A Ltd that was set up Gavin Shuker, one of the MPs, in January.]

:laugh:i heard they had some backing

i do think they are going to need some heavy hitters to join with them if it is to gain any traction. It is early days, but i think in the immediate future all they are doing is making sure that they don't need to follow any labour whip on the brexit vote. It may attract others for that very reason.

Farage has said this could and is leading to a re-alignment in British politics. Can't stand the fella but I hope it's true what he thinks.

Labour and the Tories work for no-one but themselves

exactly, what bots says
Arista would expect them to turn into a political mover and shaker overnight
at this point this is simply a mass defection; only brexit will tell if they attract more people; only then they can start thinking of turning it into a party with grassroots, a programme etc
it takes time :shrug:

Bollocks I would.

The 7 are Pathetic


It's First Past the Post

I can see what she was trying to say, it evidently came from the right place, it was just worded badly.

You Wait and See

They are all Remoaners

that's what we need, not Brex****ters

the brexiteers will crawl back anyway after 29th of March, once they found out about brexit having so many negative effects on UK (apart from that one positive thing of independence)

"we"





Bollocks

[Venue for The Independent Group launch this morning has day delegate
rate of around £130. Three rooms hired at total capacity 110.
It wasn't cheap. Was billed to splitter MP Gavin Shuker's firm Gemini 1 - so we can't know where
the money came from]

bollocks to your bollocks

how nice

The antisemitism issue aside because no doubt all Parties have rumblings of elements of it.
However Labour has the bigger problem I concede and will have to clear it out completely.

However, this lot want a new referendum on the EU.
Also to hopefully stay in the EU too.

The Lib Dems want that and languish in the polls.

Not a single one of this lot is even of the shadow cabinet.
They are not names like Shirley Williams, Roy Jenkins and David Owen.

They'd have been better staying and working to get proper PR in elections.
Not AV which is a poor excuse for PR really.

Under first past the post, new Parties don't change the 2 party system.
It just helps the Party they haven't left.
Independents just get swallowed up over time.

No PR is coming, the Conservatives will never support that.
So all I can see is whoever is the Conservative leader in the next election.
They'll be near assured of victory.

Then once Corbyn has gone.
The tide is likely to turn to Labour in a few years.

Leaving this sorry lot out in the political wilderness.
With an electorate hating their action taken today.

Great Points Joey

Good points, yes

Anna Soubry has removed the word 'Conservative' from her twitter bio.

A clue?

we need an independent Scotland away from this vile English political mess pronto