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Mystic Mock 12-04-2019 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10506913)
We’d manage whatever Brexit we get. We managed just fine before we were members of the EU
Weren't the last time that we had no proper trade deal with any kind of European Union group was in the 60's? I mean I'm not really sure on that but I thought that it was a few decades ago.

Glenn. 12-04-2019 10:05 PM
The fear you all have is frightening and hilarious

Cherie 12-04-2019 10:05 PM
saying we managed before is like saying we should go back to black and white tv and 2 channels

Glenn. 12-04-2019 10:06 PM
Do you have Sky. We may as well have 2 channels as there’s nothing ever on

Cherie 12-04-2019 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10506954)
Do you have Sky. We may as well have 2 channels as there’s nothing ever on
true

Elliot 12-04-2019 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10506913)
We’d manage whatever Brexit we get. We managed just fine before we were members of the EU
We’d also manage not having brexit at all hahaha

Mystic Mock 12-04-2019 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10506949)
The fear you all have is frightening and hilarious
You see I think it's all about perspective.

For me personally I have a family member that works in the Car Industry which is getting knocked about quite badly due to a likely no deal Brexit outcome.

It's personal information I know, but I don't want my family member potentially losing their job and countless other people possibly losing their jobs because we as a nation were too stubborn to come to a compromise, or are in a directionless state which leaves us all in a bad way.

Marsh. 12-04-2019 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10506848)
Have you been hacked or something? At least debate your point as to why this very referendum should go ahead without question considering you don't think that there should be a second referendum to stay in the EU, or that there shouldn't be a vote between which Brexit we should have out of Soft or Hard Brexit.

I mean they're the two points I've put forward and the only posts that you've come with so far is mocking a factual point that I've put up, putting up a facepalm emoji, and repeatedly typing ok Mock in your last couple of replies to me.

It's not exactly a great endorsement as to why my points are invalid and why your points are to be respected imo, but I suppose we all see things differently.
Ok, Mock.

Mystic Mock 12-04-2019 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10507060)
Ok, Mock.
:joker:

Twosugars 12-04-2019 11:57 PM
Marsh, are you a leaver?

Marsh. 12-04-2019 11:58 PM
I am. :)

Mystic Mock 13-04-2019 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10507320)
I am. :)
And there's nothing wrong in that imo.

I'm obviously a Remainer, but I can respect opposing opinions.

Out of interest are you more in support of a hard or soft Brexit?

Twosugars 13-04-2019 12:05 AM
Ok, I didn't know tbh.

My main problem with the EU membership issue is lack of information.

If we are lucky enough to have another referendum I wish somebody impartial, say the Electoral Commission, run infomercials explaining things properly. No agenda, just facts.
Things about the EU, single market, customs union, the current arrangement of the UK membership with all the opt-outs Britain has.

Denver 13-04-2019 12:08 AM
The EU are money robbing scumbags, they absolutely destroyed countries like Greece

Marsh. 13-04-2019 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10507336)
And there's nothing wrong in that imo.

I'm obviously a Remainer, but I can respect opposing opinions.

Out of interest are you more in support of a hard or soft Brexit?
Firm, but bouncy. Like my mattress.

Twosugars 13-04-2019 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10507348)
The EU are money robbing scumbags, they absolutely destroyed countries like Greece
Not quite.
Greece destroyed Greece.

Denver 13-04-2019 12:13 AM
Also how can people justify paying £13b a year into an organisation that only gives £4b back? Where is the money going to

Mystic Mock 13-04-2019 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10507348)
The EU are money robbing scumbags, they absolutely destroyed countries like Greece
Tbf Greece had problems financially before they joined the EU.

I think that Spain had issues financially recently though didn't they?

Mystic Mock 13-04-2019 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10507350)
Firm, but bouncy. Like my mattress.
So more of a middle ground approach?

Denver 13-04-2019 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10507364)
Tbf Greece had problems financially before they joined the EU.

I think that Spain had issues financially recently though didn't they?
But the financial burden and repayment scheme the EU put upon them has crippled them and it would be nowhere as worse if they were not in the EU

Twosugars 13-04-2019 12:14 AM
The only fault I could place with the EU re. Greece is that Euro joining conditions were not tough enough. Greece had no business joining it in the shape it was.

Twosugars 13-04-2019 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10507369)
But the financial burden and repayment scheme the EU put upon them has crippled them and it would be nowhere as worse if they were not in the EU
Adam, it'd help if you didn't confuse the EU with the Eurozone.

Denver 13-04-2019 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10507375)
Adam, it'd help if you didn't confuse the EU with the Eurozone.
The EU are a driving force behind it, Greece would have sorted themselves out

Mystic Mock 13-04-2019 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10507369)
But the financial burden and repayment scheme the EU put upon them has crippled them and it would be nowhere as worse if they were not in the EU
You're probably right about Greece's situation, but that's because they've joined the EU as a basketcase financially anyway so the people of Greece probably wouldn't notice any initial setbacks if they were to leave like I think that we will once we leave in October or whenever it is that we leave again now. I feel like any EU Imports will see prices sky rocket without no trade arrangement with them but I could be wrong in saying that as I'm no expert on Politics as you can probably tell.:laugh:

Like Twosugars though I am amazed that the EU let Greece in without no proper checks on Greece's financial state.

Twosugars 13-04-2019 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10507378)
The EU are a driving force behind it, Greece would have sorted themselves out
And the advantage for the EU in ruining one of its members would be...? Enlighten me.


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