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Crimson Dynamo 08-05-2019 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10542394)

In other words it's a lie

bots 08-05-2019 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10542472)
In other words it's a lie

the video with nigel speaking doesn't seem to tie up with the text underneath

Twosugars 08-05-2019 09:06 PM

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...gel-farage-pow

Plus a clip on youtube

Beso 08-05-2019 09:23 PM

The headline Twosugars posted makes it sounds like Farage is on about all Jews. .when it's not.

Crimson Dynamo 08-05-2019 09:25 PM

Link doesn't work

The Slim Reaper 09-05-2019 09:04 AM

More insanity from this grifter


Twosugars 09-05-2019 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10542527)
Link doesn't work

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8031191.html

Twosugars 09-05-2019 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10542526)
The headline Twosugars posted makes it sounds like Farage is on about all Jews. .when it's not.

Couldn't make it up :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 09-05-2019 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Twosugars View Post
"there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews"


where is this quote from ?

i cant see it anywhere

Livia 09-05-2019 09:25 AM

While people are being deflected by this kind of tenuous nonsense, anti-Semitic attacks in the UK are at a record high for the third year in a row. Frankly I'm more angry about that than what someone might... or indeed, might not have said.

bots 09-05-2019 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10542843)
While people are being deflected by this kind of tenuous nonsense, anti-Semitic attacks in the UK are at a record high for the third year in a row. Frankly I'm more angry about that than what someone might... or indeed, might not have said.

He did talk about the power of jewish groups in america, but the quote attributed to him, he didn't make. The video evidence is there for all to see and then they misquoted him underneath it

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russi...-brexit-698486

Crimson Dynamo 09-05-2019 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10542843)
While people are being deflected by this kind of tenuous nonsense, anti-Semitic attacks in the UK are at a record high for the third year in a row. Frankly I'm more angry about that than what someone might... or indeed, might not have said.

Its using anti- Semitism as a prop to have a go at someone you dont like, not because you care about Jewish people

that cant be right?

Livia 09-05-2019 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10542846)
He did talk about the power of jewish groups in america, but the quote attributed to him, he didn't make. The video evidence is there for all to see and then they misquoted him underneath it

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russi...-brexit-698486


I know. It's the hysterical and dogged manipulation of the story that gets me, sometimes from the same people who have defended Corbyn's anti-Semitism.

I mean, there is a powerful Jewish lobby in the US and you, I and most people already know that, it isn't news. Did someone think it was a secret, I wonder? The USA recognising Jerusalem as Israel's capital for example... I'm sure Trump didn't wake up one day, you know what guys, I've had a great idea...

Livia 09-05-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10542849)
Its using anti- Semitism as a prop to have a go at someone you dont like, not because you care about Jewish people

that cant be right?

No, it's not right. But it is transparent.

Beso 09-05-2019 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10542835)
Couldn't make it up :laugh:

Whoever wrote that piss false headline certainly did.

Twosugars 09-05-2019 12:12 PM

Farage even registered in the preface to the annual Antisemitic Discourse Report by CST for 2017

Quote:

The controversy over antisemitism in the Labour Party endured throughout 2017, having come to national prominence in the previous year (it would also continue into 2018). But antisemitism in political life was not confined to ongoing Labour antisemitism row. People on different parts of the political spectrum were accused of talking about the “Jewish lobby” or “Israel lobby” in terms that evoked antisemitic conspiracy theories. Examples of this phenomenon involved both Nigel Farage and the Al Jazeera TV network in 2017.
https://cst.org.uk/news/blog/2018/11...se-report-2017
full text:
Quote:

In October Nigel Farage, the former leader
of UKIP, discussed the United States’ “Jewish
lobby” with a caller on his LBC radio show in
terms that were condemned by the Board of
Deputies of British Jews as having “crossed
the line into well-known antisemitic tropes”.

The caller, “Ahmed” from Leyton in east
London, telephoned Farage’s show which
was discussing the question of whether US
President Donald Trump “is involved in some
form of Russian collusion”. Ahmed began by
asking “how come there’s such an issue with
Russia, Russian involvement, and there’s no
one really highlighting AIPAC [American Israel
Public Affairs Committee] and the Israeli lobby
and their involvement in American politics
and elections?” Farage agreed with Ahmed
in language that immediately conflated the
“Israeli lobby” with American Jews, saying:
“Well, the Israeli lobby, that’s a reasonable
point Ahmed because there are about six
million Jewish people living in America, so
as a percentage it’s quite small, but in terms
of influence it’s quite big.” Farage then said:
“I don’t think anybody is suggesting that the
Israeli government tried to affect the result
of the American elections,” and contrasted
this with allegations that Russia had tried to
influence the 2016 US Presidential Election in
favour of Trump.
Ahmed then brought the conversation back
to the subject of Israel, saying “with Israel,
they affect both Democrats and Republicans,
they’ve got them both in their pockets.” Again,
Farage agreed and changed the discussion
from “Israeli lobby” to “Jewish lobby”, saying:
“Well, in terms of money and influence, yep,
they are a very powerful lobby…Ahmed, new
caller from Leyton, I thank you; he makes the
point that there are other very powerful foreign
lobbies in the United States of America, and
the Jewish lobby, with its links with the Israeli
government, is one of those strong voices.”

Crimson Dynamo 09-05-2019 12:16 PM

ts can you state where you got that quote from

ignoring this is not going to make it go away?

Beso 09-05-2019 12:18 PM

Yes ts...where did you get that quote from!!!

Twosugars 09-05-2019 12:33 PM

I provided all the links for the quotes, go and argue with them :shrug:

Crimson Dynamo 09-05-2019 12:36 PM

this thread is a mess, so you made it up?

you cant slander people like that TS

Twosugars 09-05-2019 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10543016)
this thread is a mess, so you made it up?

you cant slander people like that TS


Your trolling is getting out of control.
The incident was reported all over the world, including Jewish outlets. It made the annual antisemitism report for Britain.
Deal with that, Trumpet.

Crimson Dynamo 09-05-2019 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10543023)
Your trolling is getting out of control.
The incident was reported all over the world, including Jewish outlets. It made the annual antisemitism report for Britain.
Deal with that, Trumpet.

just provide the link

you provided the quote

Twosugars 09-05-2019 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10543024)
just provide the link

you provided the quote

have you read the thread? I provided the links for everything, just go back and see

Crimson Dynamo 09-05-2019 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10543026)
have you read the thread? I provided the links for everything, just go back and see

so where does that quote come from, what link?

Crimson Dynamo 09-05-2019 12:48 PM

Trump ally and Brexit leader Nigel Farage says there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews.


this was said by a person at Newsweek magazine



you said

Originally Posted by Twosugars View Post
"there’s something Americans should worry about more than Russian meddling: Jews"

that's how
now you explain why would he say that?

here is the link: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russi...-brexit-698486

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he never said that, Newsweek did


its wrong


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