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Cherie 26-05-2019 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10562154)
Correct.
Thought so :laugh:

Twosugars 26-05-2019 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10561977)
I think Mokka's point (and I agree with her) is that many if not most Catholics will not follow those sorts of technicalities and will go with a broad "if the pope said it then that's what my religion says is right and I will go with that".

Being frank; it's not people in coutries / states where the population is generally philosophically and theologically aware that are at risk. It's women in places where the religion is devout, dogmatic and basic and what the pope says will be taken as gospel, full stop.
Give people some credit. Those who follow things to the letter probably simply agree with it. The church is not the police

Twosugars 26-05-2019 08:54 PM
Tbh unless we can come up with better starting point of human life than conception I cant see how we can avoid branding abortion murder. And as such it can only be justified if mothers life was in danger.

The whole solution to unwanted pregnancies needs to be firmly shifted to avoiding conception.
As a gay man I find it astonishing women often are bamboozled by men and let them not use the condom or cum inside as if it was some sort of God given right. Men bleat oh, with condom it's not the same or I cant help cumming. Like wtf? As if cumming outside wasnt more fun anyway :shrug:
Women seem to be not empowered enough to put these conditions on sex and then must resort to killing fetuses.
I know there are other circumstances like rape etc but my impression (maybe wrong) is that there's no equal sharing of the burden of avoiding pregnancy. Women are getting shafted.
Now tell me how wrong I am

Marsh. 26-05-2019 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10562240)
Tbh unless we can come up with better starting point of human life than conception I cant see how we can avoid branding abortion murder. And as such it can only be justified if mothers life was in danger.

The whole solution to unwanted pregnancies needs to be firmly shifted to avoiding conception.
As a gay man I find it astonishing women often are bamboozled by men and let them not use the condom or cum inside as if it was some sort of God given right. Men bleat oh, with condom it's not the same or I cant help cumming. Like wtf? As if cumming outside wasnt more fun anyway :shrug:
Women seem to be not empowered enough to put these conditions on sex and then must resort to killing fetuses.
I know there are other circumstances like rape etc but my impression (maybe wrong) is that there's no equal sharing of the burden of avoiding pregnancy. Women are getting shafted.
Now tell me how wrong I am
Ok, I'm done. :joker:

Niamh. 26-05-2019 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10561992)
An opinion on an opinion is different to trying to invalidate it.
In my opinion his opinion is invalid [emoji4]

Mokka 26-05-2019 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10562240)
Tbh unless we can come up with better starting point of human life than conception I cant see how we can avoid branding abortion murder. And as such it can only be justified if mothers life was in danger.

The whole solution to unwanted pregnancies needs to be firmly shifted to avoiding conception.
As a gay man I find it astonishing women often are bamboozled by men and let them not use the condom or cum inside as if it was some sort of God given right. Men bleat oh, with condom it's not the same or I cant help cumming. Like wtf? As if cumming outside wasnt more fun anyway :shrug:
Women seem to be not empowered enough to put these conditions on sex and then must resort to killing fetuses.
I know there are other circumstances like rape etc but my impression (maybe wrong) is that there's no equal sharing of the burden of avoiding pregnancy. Women are getting shafted.
Now tell me how wrong I am
There are cases where condoms dont work... it's not fully proof.

Twosugars 26-05-2019 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10562499)
There are cases where condoms dont work... it's not fully proof.

Then for once mens obsession with porn would come in handy, do it like in the movies and pull out first and then shoot

Mokka 26-05-2019 10:43 PM
Also, doesnt the catholic church still frown on any form of birth control as well?
We all see how abstinence works among their own leadership, :eyes: but that's the only option they are allowing here.

Mokka 26-05-2019 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10562516)
Then for once mens obsession with porn would come in handy, do it like in the movies and pull out first and then shoot
My friend got pregnant twice using the pull out method... that is the most laughable form of birth control I know of

Twosugars 26-05-2019 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10562529)
My friend got pregnant twice using the pull out method... that is the most laughable form of birth control I know of
Anal then? :shrug:

Whatever I suggest seems wrong:shrug:there must be a better way than killing fetuses

Twosugars 26-05-2019 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10562529)
My friend got pregnant twice using the pull out method... that is the most laughable form of birth control I know of
Clearly they didn't do it right

Mokka 27-05-2019 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10562535)
Anal then? :shrug:

Whatever I suggest seems wrong:shrug:there must be a better way than killing fetuses
They aren't fetuses when abortion happens... they are a cell mass

Marsh. 27-05-2019 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10562391)
In my opinion his opinion is invalid [emoji4]
Was that before or after his opinion didn't match your own. :hee:

Marsh. 27-05-2019 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10562516)
Then for once mens obsession with porn would come in handy, do it like in the movies and pull out first and then shoot
That's still not a fool proof method. :joker:

Twosugars 27-05-2019 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10562693)
They aren't fetuses when abortion happens... they are a cell mass
I'd need to verify that

Niamh. 27-05-2019 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10562705)
Was that before or after his opinion didn't match your own. :hee:
That was ever since he harboured criminals :hee:

Niamh. 27-05-2019 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10562516)
Then for once mens obsession with porn would come in handy, do it like in the movies and pull out first and then shoot
:/

bots 27-05-2019 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10562524)
Also, doesnt the catholic church still frown on any form of birth control as well?
We all see how abstinence works among their own leadership, :eyes: but that's the only option they are allowing here.
rather than having abortions .... have fun with little boys seems to be the popes message


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