There's always a choice, if you commit atrocious acts then that's on your head. 'Just following orders' hasn't been an excuse since World War 2.

Re-education camps aren't about combating terrorism, Arista.... Honestly, the naivete.

China is not like our World
they will follow their own orders.

China had Muslim Terrorists
a few years back
Now the Muslim groups are being Re- Educated
So they are happy to have that solved within
China.

Yes the Student Protesters got a beating
Dezzy.


But The Police must set a example.

They're not getting 're-educated' their getting their organs harvested.

China is run by monsters, Arista and by trying to play the enlightened centrist, you are only defending their monstrous actions. By refusing to call out China's actions for what they are, you are actively supporting Human Rights abuse.

I agree
but there is No way of Changing China Power.

Human Rights
are not part of China.

No way do I defend that Power
but unlike you I respect every nation.
Its a Trading nation.

You're being the enlightened centrist and by sitting on the fence, you are condoning China's actions. There's no middle ground here. You either oppose the abuses that China commits regularly or you don't. Saying you respect every nation is just you basically passively condoning what goes on in China and what the Hong Kong police are doing on their behalf.

Yes because Of Trade.

Its Wrong whats going on
Under China Leader Rules/Laws
but there is no way of changing any of that.

Hong Kong leader announces withdrawal of
controversial extradition bill

That's one of the Protests Demand
but they still want more

https://news.sky.com/story/hong-kong...-bill-11801856

Good that the Hong Kong go has backed down a bit, but I doubt it will make much difference..

[Hong Kong protests: Crowds 'baying for blood' as mobs attack civilians
A hardcore group of protesters say violence is necessary to attract the government's attention.]


Its still going on
amazing no one has not died , yet.

https://e3.365dm.com/19/09/768x432/s...20190922114502


https://news.sky.com/story/hong-kong...lians-11816706

When it comes to protesters being violent, I have no doubts that it's the work of plants by China to undermine the protests.

Not all of them.

Both SkyNews and BBCnews have reporters
among the young groups
they have found out they are students
with local parents

[Hong Kong protests: Tear gas and water cannon
fired at demonstrators
The fresh unrest will fuel fears
of escalating violence in the run
up to the 70th anniversary of Chinese communist rule.]
On Tuesday.

https://news.sky.com/story/hong-kong...ators-11822653

https://e3.365dm.com/19/09/768x432/s...20190929111855

Given what's come to light about China vivisecting muslims in concentration camps to harvest their organs, I hope the protesters keep fighting on. China is run by an incredibly evil regime that's made itself almost untouchable through it's trade power. It's quite terrifying really.

But China Ain't Going to back down
Those Students want a Death

Dezzy you need your own thread
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9117911.html

As this is a China Problem
Not Hong Kong

Dezzy you need your own thread
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9117911.html

As this is a China Problem
Not Hong Kong

One Problem in Hong Kong
is there is far to many Press in the way

I'm so concerned at what today will bring.

I can't imagine how horrendous it must be as a Hong Kong student at the moment, knowing that your destiny is to be ruled by China by the time you reach middle age, and knowing that your children will be condemned to a hateful future.

I wish the international community would do something to help Hong Kong to achieve total independence from China. Thus is surely a time when morals should come before money. How can the Western world stand by and do nothing to help?

How wrong it feels to watch this happening, and to witness their desperate requests for foreign support or intervention, fearing that their protests will ultimately be futile and in vain, and that they will be sacrificed to the Chinese authorities. The sense of helplessness is overwhelming and devastating.

No! The press need to be there to record what is happening! Without the press the authorities will commit what ever atrocities they want to.

The presence of the world's press is the only thing that's protecting the people of Hong Kong at the moment.

One of the Protestors Wacked a Cop
on his Arm with a Metal Bar..........

That Officer then pulled out a Hand Gun
and Shot the 18 year old punk in his chest.

CNN HD showed the Video

https://news.sky.com/story/hong-kong...rsary-11824350

13:29
Shot activist was an 18-year-old student - police

Sky's Alex Crawford who is in the Admiralty district
of Hong Kong says: "Police have confirmed
in an audio which they released to the media
that he was an 18-year-old student.

"According to numerous
eye witnesses - I spoke to one earlier who w
as at the scene - there was a scuffle.
There was fighting between some of
the protesters and some of the police.

"And, according to the official police version,
a warning was given - but it is certainly not
evident on the video tapes - before the police
officer draws his handgun and shoots
at very close range.]


["The police said the protester took the bullet in the left shoulder."]

We need the media to cover this