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Marsh. 06-09-2019 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10672526)
Sure but that's not what patronise means today, is it? It's a general term and can apply to male/female/child/dog

So what's the words for when it's specifically a woman, child or dog doing the patronising? :think:

Niamh. 06-09-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10672527)
So what's the words for when it's specifically a woman, child or dog doing the patronising? :think:

Well presumably it doesn't happen enough for a word to exist for it :idc:

Oliver_W 06-09-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10672528)
Well presumably it doesn't happen enough for a word to exist for it :idc:

Get out more!

Niamh. 06-09-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10672530)
Get out more!

You get out more :oh:

Marsh. 06-09-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10672528)
Well presumably it doesn't happen enough for a word to exist for it :idc:

My dog is pretty patronising.

Niamh. 06-09-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10672534)
My dog is pretty patronising.

That must be ruff on you

Marsh. 06-09-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10672537)
That must be ruff for you

I'm scared to bite back. :worry:

Kizzy 06-09-2019 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10672405)
Because virtue signalling is not just being a good person. Its pretending to be that person because thats how you were told a good person should be/what they should think/etc.

Its the internet/modern day equvilant of..like..those people who would make a huge fuss about giving money to a beggar so that everyone knew they did it so everyone knew they were a good person. Like, IDK those who film themselves giving the homeless a hundred quid, and post it around, not actually caring about the homeless, caring about their public image more and hoping i will go viral or something. If you took issue with those ridiculous types of twats, would that be 'taking issue with those who give to the homeless'? Its more about pointing out they are clearly doing it for the wong reasons, for attention, rather than actually caring. Loads of people help the homeless each day without making a song and dance about it, because they do just want to help. Those who do it for attention, are technically doing a good thing I guess, but for self serving reasons which does..dim the goodness somewhat :laugh:

Thats how I see virtue signalling. Being a good person..is very different.

Well that's one take on it and yes I see why this people are annoying but are they the only ones who get tarred with this brush?
Even voicing that you would like to say have a small increase in income tax for social care and that's virtue signalling, basically anything where the outcome is for the greater good, agreeing with rights, social justice or championing causes for marginalised groups.
Not everyone cares for selfish reasons, speaking about helping is not a crime either to be fair, it spreads the word and highlights how cuts have affected communities or deregulation has created a lack of accountability...
Anyone that asks questions that relate to those less fortunate than themselves are accused of virtue signalling as a way to shame them from caring... That's how I see it.

Why? Because the social construct preferred by conservatives is laissez-faire, sink or swim.. I'm alright jack.
Theres no such thing as society, individualism.
We're not meant to care about anyone else, so caring about others is derided and mocked to create a backlash against anyone who dare suggest anything that might be considered progressive.

Kizzy 06-09-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10672018)
I find the BBC to be fairly neutral. They try to report both sides of an argument. I guess programmes and sites like Sky News and ITV News too.

In terms of freedom of speech we have probably never had more of it, and never more access for people to get their views out into the world. However that is causing some problems.

Have you seen the reaction to news night? You might want to rethink your view of the BBC....
I've just been reading about siri filtering the word 'feminism' from responses, so sorry no I don't agree that we are able to freely get our views into the world.
The freedom you suggest we have us an illusion, it's a post truth era remember where there is a yougov poll of a handful of middle Englanders that represent the UK on any given topic.
Where we've 'had enough' of experts, and AI makes your voting choices for you.

Oliver_W 06-09-2019 08:04 PM

I've heard both left and right wing people claim that the BBC is biased in favour of the other, which makes me think it's fairly balanced.

Kizzy 06-09-2019 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10672788)
I've heard both left and right wing people claim that the BBC is biased in favour of the other, which makes me think it's fairly balanced.

And where is the evidence of left wing bias? I haven't heard any. Not recently.
The accusations of left wing bias was back in 2013.. since then there has been a restructuring of the BBC and as of 2018 the bias has effectively shifted right.

Twosugars 06-09-2019 08:44 PM

Kunsberg is pro tory all the time

James 07-09-2019 07:25 AM

It's one of the features of this online political-debate we have now (not saying this forum, more Twitter etc.) that people get a persecution complex about the media being unfair to their own politics.

It's what happens when people get dogmatic about their views. They think their own opinion is the obvious right opinion so anything that doesn't back that up completely must be biased to the other side.

Kizzy 07-09-2019 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10672954)
It's one of the features of this online political-debate we have now (not saying this forum, more Twitter etc.) that people get a persecution complex about the media being unfair to their own politics.

It's what happens when people get dogmatic about their views. They think their own opinion is the obvious right opinion so anything that doesn't back that up completely must be biased to the other side.

I don't have a persecution complex if that's what you are inferring here, its been well documented in many studies over say the last 3/4 years thst media bias is an issue in the UK, our standards are falling when it comes to openness and transparency. I'll find you some examples.
People have always been dogmatic, whether with a soapbox in 1919 or via Twitter in 2019, it's the nature of politics and opinion but when you have evidence of bias to back up your suspicions then thst changes the landscape doesn't it?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...381.html%3famp
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ope...-can-do-about/
https://rsf.org/en/ranking
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8320691.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the....huttoninquiry

Vicky. 07-09-2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10672788)
I've heard both left and right wing people claim that the BBC is biased in favour of the other, which makes me think it's fairly balanced.

Yeah I would agree with this actually. If both sides have an issue with it, then its about as centre ground as possible really :laugh:

Kizzy 07-09-2019 10:26 AM

Again in say the last 3yrs what has the BBC reported that could be said to have a left leaning bias?..
Where is the evidence? I heard sombody say once is not proof of anything.


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