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user104658 08-10-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10691904)
Great post TS, absolutely agree. To add, Superhero movies are a great way to bond with your kids aswell imo. The hours and hours myself and my son spent discussing the Marvel movies on car journeys :laugh: and counting down the days till the next film came out, that's pretty priceless to me too

My youngest (despite being a terror herself at times :think: ) finds any even mild violence / threat in live action films distressing unfortunately. She doesn't care about cartoons beating each other up but I don't think she fully understands that "real people" aren't actually getting hurt! Eldest has also resisted Superhero stuff mostly thus far, however I did convince her to come to Spider-man Far From Home with a bribe of Skittles and she loved it so there's hope yet :joker:. The "it's American High School Kids" (basically her preferred genre of... everything...) element was enough to win her over.

Niamh. 08-10-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10691908)
My youngest (despite being a terror herself at times :think: ) finds any even mild violence / threat in live action films distressing unfortunately. She doesn't care about cartoons beating each other up but I don't think she fully understands that "real people" aren't actually getting hurt! Eldest has also resisted Superhero stuff mostly thus far, however I did convince her to come to Spider-man Far From Home with a bribe of Skittles and she loved it so there's hope yet :joker:. The "it's American High School Kids" (basically her preferred genre of... everything...) element was enough to win her over.

Awww pity, the "Who would win in a fight" conversations are the best :laugh: Fingers crossed you get her hooked

Beso 08-10-2019 10:07 AM

Shoving ping pong balls all over your body before leeping about in front of a green screen,is not acting..scorcese is correct...these films have no depth.

user104658 08-10-2019 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10691909)
Awww pity, the "Who would win in a fight" conversations are the best :laugh: Fingers crossed you get her hooked

I could try "Who would win a fight - Edward Cullen or Hermione?" :think:

... ... ..... ... ... and now I sort of want to know... I mean I want to say Hermione because I recon by the final film she's probably packing some firepower, BUT that stupid sparkly vampire is ridiculously fast so what if he got to her before she could react :worry:

Niamh. 08-10-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10691912)
I could try "Who would win a fight - Edward Cullen or Hermione?" :think:

... ... ..... ... ... and now I sort of want to know... I mean I want to say Hermione because I recon by the final film she's probably packing some firepower, BUT that stupid sparkly vampire is ridiculously fast so what if he got to her before she could react :worry:

Oh that's a good one, she has the spells but he's got the speed I'm going with Hermione, she'd figure it out :think:

user104658 08-10-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10691913)
Oh that's a good one, she has the spells but he's got the speed I'm going with Hermione, she'd figure it out :think:

Indeed, she would be prepared before the fight. Ron or Harry would die.

Alf 08-10-2019 10:49 AM

Marvel addicts
Marvel Junkies

Until the next fix

Niamh. 08-10-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10691914)
Indeed, she would be prepared before the fight. Ron or Harry would die.

Harry can go Mrs Weasley has been through enough

user104658 08-10-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10691918)
Harry can go Mrs Weasley has been through enough

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user104658 08-10-2019 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10691916)
Marvel addicts
Marvel Junkies

Until the next fix

:shrug: Better than alcohol and nicotine isn't it? We're all addicts.

Marsh. 08-10-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10691902)
Also just saw this in Twitter comments which I tend to avoid like the plague, but I agree;

If he can't comprehend art forms other than those he creates, then I wouldn't call him "Brilliant"

Spot on.

Finding himself the only creator of "true cinema" is arrogant bollocks.

Alf 08-10-2019 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10691959)
Spot on.

Finding himself the only creator of "true cinema" is arrogant bollocks.

Nearly as much bollox as what you're talking there.

Scorsese is a massive cinema fan. And he most certainly talks more about others work than he does his own.

Listen to him talk about Fellini or Kurasawa or Kubrick or Ford or Hitchcock or Powell and Pressburger or Bergmann or Kazan.

Nicky91 08-10-2019 01:02 PM

Scorsese is up there for me with Steven Spielberg, James Cameron and Ridley Scott :hee:

and to some extent also Quentin Tarantino

Alf 08-10-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10691981)
Scorsese is up there for me with Steven Spielberg, James Cameron and Ridley Scott :hee:

and to some extent also Quentin Tarantino

Cameron and Scott are great, but a league below Scorsese and Spielberg.

Tom4784 08-10-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10691979)
Nearly as much bollox as what you're talking there.

Scorsese is a massive cinema fan. And he most certainly talks more about others work than he does his own.

Listen to him talk about Fellini or Kurasawa or Kubrick or Ford or Hitchcock or Powell and Pressburger or Bergmann or Kazan.

The problem is that he rarely respects modern cinema unless it's in his wheel house which is what TS and Marsh are saying. He only has love for people that are doing similar things that he does or films that were made before the 1980's.

His attitude is just very dismissive of a lot of modern works unless they fit into certain genres or styles he approves of. He's good at what he does but he is extremely elitist.

Nicky91 08-10-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10691983)
Cameron and Scott are great, but a league below Scorsese and Spielberg.

Ridley did some marvelous things though with Alien, setting up that franchise

Cameron put himself on the map with pure class like Titanic, and more recent with Avatar, which he has plenty more sequels of in the next upcoming years, also has built a Avatar forest here in our province flevoland which he himself had opened :)

Vanessa 08-10-2019 01:17 PM

Well, that's his opinion and I respect that. But I disagree. There are plenty of excellent comic book movies. Like Batman for example. That's pure cinema.

Alf 08-10-2019 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10691988)
Ridley did some marvelous things though with Alien, setting up that franchise

Cameron put himself on the map with pure class like Titanic, and more recent with Avatar, which he has plenty more sequels of in the next upcoming years, also has built a Avatar forest here in our province flevoland which he himself had opened :)

Cameron put himself on the map with The Terminator, 13 years before Titanic. He then did Aliens, the sequel to Ridley's Alien, and then Terminator 2. So he was already on the map by the time he did Titanic.

Scarlett. 08-10-2019 01:19 PM

I wonder if it hurts having an ego that big?

Alf 08-10-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10691998)
I wonder if it hurts having an ego that big?

Having an ego doesn't hurt at all. So wonder no longer.

Alf 08-10-2019 01:40 PM

Just for clarity.

I've never seen any Avengers movie, I haven't seen Iron man or Logan or most of the others like Hulk, Spiderman or Black Panther. So I could be a big fan, you never know.

The only ones I have seen is the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy.

I am thinking about purchasing The Avengers box set sometime. Maybe I'll ask Father Christmas to bring it for me this year.

Vanessa 08-10-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10692010)
Just for clarity.

I've never seen any Avengers movie, I haven't seen Iron man or Logan or most of the others like Hulk, Spiderman or Black Panther. So I could be a big fan, you never know.

The only ones I have seen is the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy.

I am thinking about purchasing The Avengers box set sometime. Maybe I'll ask Father Christmas to bring it for me this year.

I've always liked the Batman movies. My favourite is the one with Jack Nicholson as the joker.

Marsh. 08-10-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10691979)
Nearly as much bollox as what you're talking there.

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10692010)
I've never seen any Avengers movie

Not interested in your hero worship of Scorsese and discussing his opinion on movies you've never even seen. :thumbs:

We get it, just like Scorsese, it makes you feel better about yourself to think you have superior intellectual tastes.

Take your bollocks to someone else.

Alf 08-10-2019 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10692015)
Not interested in your hero worship of Scorsese and discussing his opinion on movies you've never even seen. :thumbs:

We get it, just like Scorsese, it makes you feel better about yourself to think you have superior intellectual tastes.

Take your bollocks to someone else.

You told me yesterday that Avengers is rubbish. Scorsese says more or less the same and you're kicking off.

Marsh. 08-10-2019 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10692017)
You told me yesterday that Avengers is rubbish. Scorsese says more or less the same and you're kicking off.

I haven't kicked off about anything. :shrug:

I thought Endgame was overstuffed and overrated. That's an entirely different point.

You seem to think people are taking issue with Scorsese saying he doesn't enjoy Marvel movies? They're not.

They're taking issue with his penchant for saying anything he doesn't like is not "worthy". There's a difference between saying "I'm not a fan of that genre" and "I'm not a fan of that genre... therefore that genre isn't "true cinema".


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