In regards to that quote he is talking common sense. Science does not come into it.

Yeah Idk kinda hard to extend any sort of sympathy or support to him after that

I would have thought so too :shrug:

That's about it Kate :wavey:

It will come as no surprise that no I don't think boris has been consistent or genuine in his responses to the threat facing the country, he suggested 250,000 tests would be carried out ..when his medical expert responded he quoted the actual figure was 25,000.

He gave credence to some pseudoscience as in the antibody tests... these do not yet exist which makes the man no better than a snake oil salesman!
Giving false hope to all.

We all know he and his ilk would love nothing more than th run with herd immunity and sacrifice 1000s. ..but he knows that goes against experts the world over and he would never get away with his ' for the greater good' machinations.

He wanted us all to sacrifice our loved ones ..for what? Why?

This had so easily been forgotten already, people are too scared, bamboozled or overloaded with information to see the rapid 180 he made on this, the suggestion alone should be unforgivable... but no, once again the Wolf in sheep's clothing manages to pull the wool over eyes and ears.

No ...no slack! There is a right course of action! Every country has contingency plans for pandemics.
Again our band of bozos plough ahead stubbornly going against every expert and health advisory body in the world. Boris has and will have more blood on his hands for his inaction.
No commentators are smug... what a blasé term. He has to be held accountable, the sycophantic poor boris was just doing his best is pathetic and wrong.
He was trying to sacrifice the vulnerable against all advice that this would be tantamount to a massacre. .end of story.

I doubt these reprobates have the required knowledge to appease everyone, but still...

'Every expert'? Really? I don't know why people seem to think we have uniquely mishandled this given that all of western Europe are showing very similar paths. I bet every other country are lamenting their own leaders incompetence as well right now

You accuse me of being blase and then in the space of a few sentences you refer to our leading epidemiological experts as 'bozos', you talk about 'blood on hands', 'sacrificing' people and committing a 'massacre'

Maybe check your own language and ask if that's appropriate in a crisis like this

Yes..the WORLD health organisation. The clue is in the name.

I'm not the one making predictions on how commentators will report on him am I? you are....
I know what he's done and how wrong it was no other country has advocated herd immunity, which one of his 'experts' advocated that? ... do you know?

I'm very clear on whats appropriate. .. like not suggesting people can be screened for antibodies when there is no workable screening available for this virus.

Yeah, we're all in this together and you're not AT ALL motivated by political point scoring when you responded to Smithy's criticism of Boris not acting fast enough by basically saying he can't have that opinion unless he has 'credentials' (Read: An opinion you like) just because he criticised your precious Boris.

The holier-than-thou act doesn't work when you're being incredibly hypocritical and don't be predictable by going into Helen Lovejoy mode because that's not going to work either.

No other country? This is the Dutch PM Mark Rutte a few days ago. They have been very close to the UK in their response

It's the CMO Chris Whitty who used the term herd immunity in one of the press briefings. As far as I am aware Boris has never used the term himself - happy to be corrected. The PM has done nothing that has not been advised by the most qualified scientists in this country - they are not 'bozos'

Edit - sorry it was Sir Patrick Vallance the CSO who used the term

Based on what?

And if when they make policy decisions for millions and not medical for individuas tweet that

:skull:😷

Based on common sense. Like I said. :shrug:

:joker:

Now not only do they need scientific/medical experience, they need to be making policy decisions for millions?

You're turning into a parody of yourself now.

Pretty much everyone called bull**** on the immunity plan as soon as he said it, it's why he backpedalled so quickly.

The only thing that Boris has done right is make sure that people will be protected and provided for and that seems mostly down to Rishi Sunak. They've gone above and beyond in that regard but Boris' delayed response and his apparent disregard for human life will cause damage that could have been avoided.

I think we should have followed Ireland's example, I predict they'll be far less affected by the virus then we will be because they took action early.

Look at South Korea, like with the rest of Asia, they were hit hard but their quick and stringent response has turned the tide. They're due another wave, apparently, but they seem more prepared for it than most countries.

I back Boris.

Anyone who doesn't should go out and protest, im surprised they ain't. The brains of them.

Im probably as surprised as the moaning people are that he hasn't downrigtt ruled marshal law on us...only they are all probably asleep unable to slag him off in this desperate time...some of them may be travelling back to England after a days ski ing in aviemore..

We should also remember that the only reason huge financial steps have been taken to support people, is that the economic damage of doing that is less than the economic damage of allowing huge swathes of the working and middle classes to go bankrupt. It's a move to protect the economy, not a humanitarian move. That doesn't make it a bad thing of course but its important to keep motivations firmly in mind.

Same with the efforts to support businesses big and small: better for the economy to ensure that people have jobs to return to, than to deal with mass unemployment in 6 months.

He has backed the people.

We have let him down, we saw it as a telling off..we went nah nah nah..it's our fault, not his.

:clap1: Absolutely right

Boris loves people who stay on their knees cleaning up the slop and blame themselves.

I'm sure your knighthood is in the post after all this is over. :blush:

Let's not forget that so far the self employed have been left behind.
I expect the chancellor will have to make another announcement about helping them.

Economic help is a no brainer and not some sign of generosity. Otherwise there would be not much left from the economy after this is over.