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joeysteele 29-06-2020 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10871599)
Starmer is going Live on GMBHD itv
shortly


around 7:25AM



So he should.
Hard questioning and scrutiny of politicians is a very important procedure.
Even moreso on serious issues.

I have never liked Piers Morgan, however he isn't afraid to fire important questions at anyone.

What is astounding, is no government Minister has been on that programme for 62 days.
Refusing to be questioned on their decisions which affect most or all the Nation.
That's ridiculous.

So I applaud Starmer going on this today.
Because frankly the BBC have given up on any real deep questioning of Ministers.
It's more like an old pals act with them now.

Almost like the BBC is scared of the government.
I really cannot watch BBC now.
Preferring Sky news and their interviewing.

Starmer believes he's done right, as he said that's for others to decide if they think he's doing things the right way.
However, yes absolutely right to go on ALL programmes and put your points across.
Immaterial of the questioning or who may be asking said questions

bots 29-06-2020 07:25 AM

All media has an agenda, Morgan was a complete dick when he last interviewed a government representative. He put words in her mouth and didn't give her a chance to speak. Why would they go on that programme given that?

Sky and the BBC are both dreadful in their own ways too, it becomes more and more difficult to work out what the real truth is, and I cannot abide being spoon fed an agenda whoever is ramming it down our throats

On the subject of Keir, I think he is doing a great job so far and long may it continue. It's such a refreshing change

joeysteele 29-06-2020 08:53 AM

I don't know if you were meaning Helen Whateley there bitontheslide.
However she was a disgrace both times she was on.
She is a so called Care Minister who hadn't a clue about testing, PPE or the death rates in Care Homes.

She was either totally incompetent or being blatantly deceitful.
He was totally right to hammer her.

As he was the times he tried to get any reall truth or even basic common sense out of Hancock, the so called Health secretary.

Across the board, he is a total disgrace.

Kazanne 29-06-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10871610)
All media has an agenda, Morgan was a complete dick when he last interviewed a government representative. He put words in her mouth and didn't give her a chance to speak. Why would they go on that programme given that?

Sky and the BBC are both dreadful in their own ways too, it becomes more and more difficult to work out what the real truth is, and I cannot abide being spoon fed an agenda whoever is ramming it down our throats

On the subject of Keir, I think he is doing a great job so far and long may it continue. It's such a refreshing change

I agree with this totally, I used to quite like Piers until I found out more about him and then to see the way he 'interviewed' people was horrible to watch,his sidekick isn't any better, I love the fact Piers is so annoyed the government wont go on there anymore, that was his doing,not theirs, he is insufferable and only interested in his own voice and opinons, as for what I found out about his past, well I wont even go there. It is easy to criticize when your not in the firing seat. I dont watch it anymore,would rather get my news from other sources.

user104658 29-06-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10871610)
Morgan was a complete dick when he last interviewed a government representative. He put words in her mouth and didn't give her a chance to speak.

That describes literally every Piers Morgan "interview" I've ever had the displeasure of watching; and the govt. were happy enough with it when he was singing from their sheet. The mistake they made was believing that he was a Tory shill, when he's actually just a blaring trombone of popularism.

Liam- 29-06-2020 09:11 AM

Piers right now is the only one willing to ask the proper questions and not rest until he gets an answer, politicians have spent too long getting away with brushing past questions and dodging answers, It’s jarring because it’s not what we’re used to, good on him I say, they shouldn’t be allowed to just waffle and avoid scrutiny or hard questioning, they work for us ffs, we should be demanding proper answers to these questions, instead people are upset because they’re getting grilled, poor them

Liam- 29-06-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10871676)
That describes literally every Piers Morgan "interview" I've ever had the displeasure of watching; and the govt. were happy enough with it when he was singing from their sheet. The mistake they made was believing that he was a Tory shill, when he's actually just a blaring trombone of popularism.

Exactly, when he was doing the same to ‘corbynites’ the government and Borisbackers lapped it up, but now the Tories have complete responsibility and the show is on the other foot, they all this it’s unprofessional and nasty, it’s laughable

user104658 29-06-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10871677)
Piers right now is the only one willing to ask the proper questions and not rest until he gets an answer, politicians have spent too long getting away with brushing past questions and dodging answers, It’s jarring because it’s not what we’re used to, good on him I say, they shouldn’t be allowed to just waffle and avoid scrutiny or hard questioning, they work for us ffs, we should be demanding proper answers to these questions, instead people are upset because they’re getting grilled, poor them

They should be grilled but the problem with Morgan is that he doesn't leave room for an answer - even one to be scrutinised. He isn't looking for answers, he's looking to blast his opinion louder than the other person in the room and it's boring. A skilled interviewer is there to let the other person talk and then quickly and succinctly point out the holes in their answer - they're not there to talk, and Morgan only wants to hear his own voice.

This was true when he was pro-tory, pro-brexit, etc. and it doesn't stop being true just because he's flipped on the government.

I'd LOVE to see these politicians under the scrutiny of a genuinely skilled, knowledgeable interviewer. I don't want to see Piers hooting at them for 10 minutes.

bots 29-06-2020 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10871666)
I don't know if you were meaning Helen Whateley there bitontheslide.
However she was a disgrace both times she was on.
She is a so called Care Minister who hadn't a clue about testing, PPE or the death rates in Care Homes.

She was either totally incompetent or being blatantly deceitful.
He was totally right to hammer her.

As he was the times he tried to get any reall truth or even basic common sense out of Hancock, the so called Health secretary.

Across the board, he is a total disgrace.


i have no problem with politicians being asked searching questions, but I would rather hear what they have to say than a demented Morgan shouting over them. I think that word fits him perfectly ... demented.

I strongly believe that the government should be held to account, but the example I saw just wasn't it

Kazanne 29-06-2020 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10871677)
Piers right now is the only one willing to ask the proper questions and not rest until he gets an answer, politicians have spent too long getting away with brushing past questions and dodging answers, It’s jarring because it’s not what we’re used to, good on him I say, they shouldn’t be allowed to just waffle and avoid scrutiny or hard questioning, they work for us ffs, we should be demanding proper answers to these questions, instead people are upset because they’re getting grilled, poor them

It's fine asking questions IF you let people answer,he doesn't ,as for us wanting answers,there are plenty of other news channels that they happily go on and answer our questions,Piers and his sidekick just make it all about them and I never saw him this hyserical over Corbyn ,or anyone, he's a hypocrite , but he's easily turned off in our house now.

Liam- 29-06-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10871695)
It's fine asking questions IF you let people answer,he doesn't ,as for us wanting answers,there are plenty of other news channels that they happily go on and answer our questions,Piers and his sidekick just make it all about them and I never saw him this hyserical over Corbyn ,or anyone, he's a hypocrite , but he's easily turned off in our house now.

He lets people finish an answer of it’s a direct answer to the question that was asked, he doesn’t let them direct where the questioning does, that’s a good thing.

Also, sorry, the bib is HYSTERICAL, I can’t

user104658 29-06-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10871698)
He lets people finish an answer of it’s a direct answer to the question that was asked, he doesn’t let them direct where the questioning does, that’s a good thing.

Also, sorry, the bib is HYSTERICAL, I can’t

But a skilled interviewer baits the trap, and helps the interviewee relax to the point where the guard slips and a real answer comes out. This is the part that Morgan seems to be unable to grasp. He does indeed "hammer at them" but he goes straight in with the hammer in his hand; the defence never drops, so while he succeeds in pointing out that they won't give a straight answer... he never manages to GET a straight answer. The walls go up and up until the whole interview is shut down - often by a frustrated Morgan himself.

Pointing out bull**** answers is only half of the challenge and there's not much point in it when it only causes them to "armadillo", taking the answers with them.

joeysteele 29-06-2020 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10871676)
That describes literally every Piers Morgan "interview" I've ever had the displeasure of watching; and the govt. were happy enough with it when he was singing from their sheet. The mistake they made was believing that he was a Tory shill, when he's actually just a blaring trombone of popularism.


So indeed were Tory supporters happy when he ripped into Labour politicians because that suited them.

They'll turn a blind eye to the wrongs of this government in this pandemic however.

All Morgan has done in his usual way is expose the deceit on protection equipment, the testing figures, the losses of lives of NHS Doctors, Nurses and staff, plus the unnecessary scandalous deaths of loved ones in Care Homes.
With facts.

That's why Tory Ministers won't go on, they don't want their deceit challenged on those things.
Neither do their supporters considering the complaints to Ofcom.
Complaints laughed at and largely glossed over when he was ripping Labour Shadow Ministers apart.

He's no different to how he's always been.
I don't like him,never have..
However having lost loved ones myself unnecessarily myself to this virus.

His campaign and exposing of the deceit of Tory Ministers, I do admire.
No wonder they want to hide away.

arista 04-07-2020 02:57 PM

Monday only on LBC Live Radio
Public Phone in to question Sir Keir
from 7AM Nic Ferrari

the Labour leader is Live

arista 06-07-2020 07:30 AM




9AM Live taking Questions from the Public

Beso 06-07-2020 07:39 AM

Hi kiers.why did you decide not to prosecute jimmy savile in 2008

arista 06-07-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10875414)
Hi kiers.why did you decide not to prosecute jimmy savile in 2008


Maybe he never had all the Details, then.

joeysteele 06-07-2020 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10875418)
Maybe he never had all the Details, then.

Why did Margaret Thatcher give him a Knighthood.

Exactly, the law has to act on evidence and there has to be enough of it.

arista 06-07-2020 08:08 AM

Sir Keir is Live now
on LBC radio


First caller Sharon
a Black Lady caller having a go at his BLM moment claim.
she got a nice reply
as Keir said he will take training , first

arista 06-07-2020 08:30 AM

He spoke of Labour Ideas
like a Wealth Tax for the well off.


Sadly ony 30 mins with Sir Keir, live

Kizzy 06-07-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10875430)
He spoke of Labour Ideas
like a Wealth Tax for the well off.


Sadly ony 30 mins with Sir Keir, live

Sounds a bit corbyny that :hehe:

Oliver_W 06-07-2020 02:09 PM

How did he do?

arista 06-07-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10875662)
How did he do?


He did OK.


Making the black call Lady
happy that he will be the first in the labour party
to take a course,
awareness etc.

It's a 3 hour course
he said.

Cherie 06-07-2020 02:18 PM

He was pretty good, not as witty as Bojo last week though :laugh:

Zizu 06-07-2020 03:00 PM

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