Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10855665)

Serious neglect sure for the parents blame. As for them murdering her I struggle to believe why would they go to this effort for over ten years to still push for an investigation.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10855620)

They just repeatedly say that it's a normal thing to do on holiday, even though 99% of other parents are like "What???". They just say again that it's normal and anyone would do it.

We actually went to Portugal when my kids were 4 and 2... The furthest we went was lying out on the balcony of the villa at night looking at the stars when they were asleep in the next room. Granted, being in The Algarve with two small kids, we did have the Maddie cautionary tale on our minds, but I don't know any parent who would actually go out for dinner at any distance and leave their kids alone. As is frequently pointed out - so many things could happen. What if there was a fire? Etc.

Its no different to a parent in the UK leaving their kids at home and going to the pub at the end of the street. No one would try to justify that.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10855651)

German Prosecutors
say she is presumed dead.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10855667)

Germany thinks the German Sex offender

had sex with the child

then murdered her.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10855715)

I still hold out hope that she’s alive as do her parents .


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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10855716)

German media ??


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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10855714)

I’m not sure what time of the year she went missing but It’s scary to think that we were on holiday in Lagos with our little kids that summer with that guy seemingly living (and preying ) in the area .




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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10855715)

I still hold out hope that she’s alive as do her parents .


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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10855724)

I guess it would depend on what happened to her if I would hold out hope she was alive. If, at the age of 4, she was sold into a paedophile sex ring, as a parent I think I would prefer to think she had not survived rather than to think she had been used and suffered in that way.

If she has survived and had been trafficked to good people who loved her and cared for her, that would be a different story.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10855655)

The McCann's lawyer was talking on TV this morning about the appalling trolling the McCann's had suffered. Immediately I thought of this place and how people can seemingly say what they like.

I would LOVE to see the McCann's lawyers prosecuting the trolls. Could happen... fingers crossed.

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10855724)

I guess it would depend on what happened to her if I would hold out hope she was alive. If, at the age of 4, she was sold into a paedophile sex ring, as a parent I think I would prefer to think she had not survived rather than to think she had been used and suffered in that way.



If she has survived and had been trafficked to good people who loved her and cared for her, that would be a different story.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10855727)

Yes

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10855730)

Not a hope, it was an opportunist crime during a routine burglary sadly it seems, she was unlucky that the burglar was also a paedophile

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10855734)

I don't know. As absolutely horrendous as it is - there are many survivors of people trafficking and they can (with a lot of help) recover and live full lives. They're never going to be the same person they would have been, but it doesn't mean they can't live a happy and fulfilling life. Obviously anyone would rather believe that she died that night than that she was taken for a period of time and STILL died later, but if they have genuine hope that she could still bo out there I understand clinging to it.



That said, I do have to add that I personally believe that the McCanns know for a fact she died there in Praia Da Luze. I'd be very, very surprised if this latest development comes to anything.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10855744)

The first thought was someone voicing an opinion on an Internet forum? I thought the whole idea of free speech was people can say what they like, there have been no threats just speculation and opinion.

What grounds would a lawyer have to prosecute anyone here? As TS said the thought of leaving children unattended is abhorrent for most.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10855776)

What have I missed ?


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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10855779)

The McCanns have threatened to sue TIBB.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10855782)

rubbish

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10855784)

James and Josy are trying to negotiate a settlement that will allow them to keep the site open. The McCanns want Annie permabanned for her anti-McCann agenda, but J&J have offered them LT and I instead. Bit of a standoff at the moment.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10855773)

Without hope , we are nothing ..

( Spike Milligan)


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