Ironically the responses she's been getting from a lot of transwomen (the suck my dicks and rape threats) kind of go aways to validating what she wrote about her fears and being a woman.......

The whole thing (the whole twittersphere in fact) is drenched in a sad irony to be honest. People feel emboldened by having a platform, their use of that platform becomes increasingly aggressive and extreme, most people get bored with it and abandon the platform which becomes increasingly niche and circular, THAT encourages ever-more-extreme behaviour, which put off yet more people in a downwards spiral. The end result is - in my opinion inevitably - going to be the platform being abandonned or at the very least, completely losing mainstream appeal. With no replacement.

It's already happening to be honest. And sadly it means that the genuine, non-aggressive people who just wanted to be seen and heard will find their platform going right along with it.

mmm Twitter is really awful, I was also very disappointed with the Harry Potter actors coming out against her. They're of course entitled to voice their opinions but I was disappointed that they never said that the abuse she was getting was unacceptable, the woman who made them all millionaires and who had been a friend to them

I don't mind them having their own opinions but they're not sharing anything reasoned, just parroting some basic lines to appease the fan base. They practically all said the same thing word-for-word. One of 'em said something about wishing she wouldn't do this on twitter - that's about the only part I completely agree with. She's not a stupid person... I find it hard to believe that she didn't know the reaction before she posted... so to do it on Twitter seems a bit like bear baiting and I have to wonder if it was partly intentional. Obviously that's not to excuse the abuse but, surely, no intelligent person could say "I thought I could post a nuanced discussion of a sensitive issue on Twitter and it would go well" with a straight face.

SJW's
The PC brigade
Snowflakes
Social justice warriors
Libtards
Virtue signallers
Bleeding hearted hand wringing lefties
'Millenials' (used as a term to diminish someone's opinion)

Well done getting these eradicated, I hope you do mind you.

She knew what she was doing when she posted the article, she even turned off the comments on the tweets because she knew what she was doing, it’s funny that a marvellous author wrote lauded and beloved books about a person growing up different but ending up feeling loved, accepted and idolised, can then turn around and try to demean and belittle a whole demographic, just trying to do the same thing, she’s an awful woman with awful opinions, however that Sun front page is diabolical and totally unsurprising for the rag and the abuse she’s getting from Twitter only serves to prove her point, which is what people like her say the things they do, they seek a reaction to back up their ignorance.

It is amazing though that the biggest defenders of her about that front page are charities and spokespeople for the very demographic she seeks to invalidate, who’s really the problem in this scenario?

Absolutely. She chose the platform for the discussion she layed out. She doesn't then get to be upset that it is coming back to haunt her, nor do people complain about it on her behalf.
But also, I don't buy into the theory that the children hired to be in her movies, now adults with their own views and opinions, shouldn't be allowed to stand against her because "they would be nothing with out her". They were hired as children without knowing her views or having the ability to take a political or public stance. They aren't obligated to back any or all views she has today. Even if the franchise was still filming, they would be allowed to have a voice. She doesn't own them.

"women have periods" such a horrible "opinion" to hold

So if a naturally born woman has a hysterectomy... is she no longer a woman?? :think:

Well it’s along the same lines as ‘women can reproduce’ really isn’t it, does that mean women that can’t do those womanly things aren’t women?

"Only women can have periods" isn't the same as "periods define womanhood"

That’s exactly what people are saying though

I mean do you really honestly believe that the objective is to demean trans people rather than be concerned about women's rights? I can't believe people read her statement and came to that conclusion. Look at the woman's past ffs, she's always been left leaning and supportive of minorities, it's clearly taken her a long time to have the guts to feel able to say publicly that she's worried about women's rights. I feel the same, I don't want to make anyone bad about themselves and I don't care how anyone chooses to live their lives.......unless it affects other peoples rights which is what is happening

Not all woman have periods. There are medical or physical reasons they can't or don't.

Sure, but everyone who can have a period is a woman, so the article she was referring to that called women "people who menstruate" could have saved their word count a bit :laugh:

no, it's maybe affecting perceived rights, bit that is a whole discussion on what are rights and what are privileges, how they are defined in each different society and through out the world. Rights can be redefined.

How did you read that from my post?

I said women have periods, I didn't say if you don't have periods you're not a woman. Biologically speaking only women have periods

Is it safe to say that all women have two X chromosomes. Whether they menstruate, or not.

Transwomen are not the same as born women, no matter how they wish they were. That doesn't mean they're worth less than born women, it just means that they are not "the same".

Not all woman can menstruate... does that make it clearer for you?

And biologically speaking, not all women have periods, so it isn't a definition of being a woman

No-one said all women could menstruate :shrug: not even JKR said that.

But what she did say was that everyone who can menstruate is a woman, which pissed people off for some reason.

Again, I never said that, why are you acting like I did. She said women have periods because she objected to being referred to as a person who menstruates, which is demeaning and dehumanising, i totally agree with her.

Yes that is what I believe people are trying to do, we haven’t seen any women’s rights actually be affected by trans people, no rights have been taken away or reversed, what’s happening to trans people now, is the same thing that happened to gay people, they were accused of encroaching on straight rights, they were accused of indoctrinating children, they were accused of trying to take control of society with their ‘perverted ideology’ if women are happy for people to be who they are, why does their existence threaten women in any form of way?

No. That is just how you would like it to be defined or need it to be.

Chromosomes are what print out our genes or genetics. Some are turned on and off in different people. Having X and Y doesn't mean your genes exactly what another X and Y persons are.

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