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Tom4784 11-08-2020 01:26 PM

You'd have to be utterly foolish and completely ignorant to think that racial profiling isn't a thing. It's so strange how people go out of their way to deny it's existence, why? What does it actually cost you to admit that POCs are targeted more by the police than white people? Ask yourselves that.

Oliver_W 11-08-2020 01:28 PM

Oh I just thought - if they mistyped the reg code, it'd (most likely) show a different make and model. A car with the "wrong" plates would certainly need investigating.

bots 11-08-2020 01:46 PM

they don't tend to type reg codes these days, it's all done automatically from cameras and the systems alert them to dodgy vehicles

Oliver_W 11-08-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10894654)
they don't tend to type reg codes these days, it's all done automatically from cameras

mistyped, misscanned, either way.

bots 11-08-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10894657)
mistyped, misscanned, either way.

point being it would be computer racial profiling

Oliver_W 11-08-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10894658)
point being it would be computer racial profiling

Oh god, even computers are racist now!!! whatever next :joker:

Liam- 11-08-2020 01:58 PM

Nope, they’ve said themselves the officer put the number in himself

Oliver_W 11-08-2020 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10894664)
Nope, they’ve said themselves the officer put the number in himself

So he typed it in wrong, and the system told him the number he typed belonged to a different car on the other end of the country? They'd be rubbish cops if they didn't look into it.

The Slim Reaper 11-08-2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10894654)
they don't tend to type reg codes these days, it's all done automatically from cameras and the systems alert them to dodgy vehicles

I made this mistake yesterday. Not all police cars have cameras that do this.

Livia 12-08-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10894668)
So he typed it in wrong, and the system told him the number he typed belonged to a different car on the other end of the country? They'd be rubbish cops if they didn't look into it.

Not if the person involved goes onto Twitter with a film of it instead of behaving like a real public servant and going straight to the Met.

Oliver_W 12-08-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10894959)
Not if the person involved goes onto Twitter with a film of it instead of behaving like a real public servant and going straight to the Met.

To be fair it was Sunday. I know "crime doesn't sleep" and the Bobbies obviously work all year round, but the people she's need to speak to probably have Sundays off.

Cherie 12-08-2020 11:41 AM

The windows were tinted so they were unable to ascertain the ethnicity, and they were respectful and polite when dealing with the occupants, maybe just don't bother pulling over cars with tinted windows in case it causes offence

The Slim Reaper 12-08-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10895009)
To be fair it was Sunday. I know "crime doesn't sleep" and the Bobbies obviously work all year round, but the people she's need to speak to probably have Sundays off.

Do you drive, Oliver? I've driven all around the country at different times, and not once have I ever been pulled for being far away from where my vehicle was/is registered, it just doesn't happen, and this is the first/only instance I've ever heard of it happening.

Oliver_W 12-08-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10895014)
Do you drive, Oliver? I've driven all around the country at different times, and not once have I ever been pulled for being far away from where my vehicle was/is registered, it just doesn't happen, and this is the first/only instance I've ever heard of it happening.

Remember the cop mistyped the reg number. The system would show a different make and model. Using fake or different plates is a crime.

Why not try swapping your car's plates and see how long it takes to be pulled over?

bots 12-08-2020 11:46 AM

a cars distance from it's home would only rate as secondary information, something else would have to trigger the stop

The Slim Reaper 12-08-2020 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10895018)
Remember the cop mistyped the reg number. The system would show a different make and model. Using fake or different plates is a crime.

Why not try swapping your car's plates and see how long it takes to be pulled over?

Depending on the actual error, cars roll off production lines with their plates in sequence. That's not foolproof because obviously there are beginnings and ends to these plates, but a small typing error wouldn't necessarily show a different make or model.

Oliver_W 12-08-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10895026)
Depending on the actual error, cars roll off production lines with their plates in sequence. That's not foolproof because obviously there are beginnings and ends to these plates, but a small typing error wouldn't necessarily show a different make or model.

Depends which part of the plate was mistyped. If it was the first character, it'd show a different line. And if he had custom plates, it'd be even more different. I guess it depends on the "type" of mistyping it was - confusing a 0 with an O? Accidentally hitting a key near the one he meant to?

Human error is much more likely that racial profiling, in this case.

The Slim Reaper 12-08-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10895031)
Depends which part of the plate was mistyped. If it was the first character, it'd show a different line. And if he had custom plates, it'd be even more different. I guess it depends on the "type" of mistyping it was - confusing a 0 with an O? Accidentally hitting a key near the one he meant to?

Human error is much more likely that racial profiling, in this case.

Taken from your own post a couple of pages ago. says nothing about make or model, only registered address.

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Prior to stopping the vehicle, an officer incorrectly entered the registration into a police computer which identified the car as registered to an address in Yorkshire.

Upon stopping the vehicle and speaking with the driver, it quickly became apparent that the registration had been entered incorrectly and was registered to the driver in London.

Oliver_W 12-08-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10895035)
Taken from your own post a couple of pages ago. says nothing about make or model, only registered address.

... And? That doesn't go against anything I said. The wrong car was in the wrong place :laugh:

The Slim Reaper 12-08-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10895040)
... And? That doesn't go against anything I said. The wrong car was in the wrong place :laugh:

The police statement makes no mention of it's make or model, only it's registration, which speaks directly against what you were saying.

Oliver_W 12-08-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10895045)
The police statement makes no mention of it's make or model, only it's registration, which speaks directly against what you were saying.

It simply doesn't mention it, that doesn't mean it wasn't considered.

They were in Hackney,most drivers would be BAME. If Dawn's driver was stopped in Devon or something her harping on about being "racially profiled" might hold a few drops of water.

The Slim Reaper 12-08-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10895057)
It simply doesn't mention it, that doesn't mean it wasn't considered.

They were in Hackney,most drivers would be BAME. If Dawn's driver was stopped in Devon or something her harping on about being "racially profiled" might hold a few drops of water.

So the police put out their version of events but chose to omit the most understandable and reasonable part of any explanation they could provide?

Oliver_W 12-08-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10895058)
So the police put out their version of events but chose to omit the most understandable and reasonable part of any explanation they could provide?

Police incompetence? Nevahhh :laugh:

The Slim Reaper 12-08-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10895061)
Police incompetence? Nevahhh :laugh:

In the current BLM climate, there is now way they would have left it off that statement. That statement probably went through about 50 different sets of eyes before being released.

Oliver_W 12-08-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10895065)
In the current BLM climate, there is now way they would have left it off that statement. That statement probably went through about 50 different sets of eyes before being released.

Sure, but there's simply no reason to assume they were profiled :shrug:


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