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Tom4784 07-05-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11043441)
Conservative voters here are part of the public, so you are insulting them.

Choosing to be offended doesn't make what I say a direct insult at you. You're just choosing to be disingenuous and pretend to be offended in order to try to enact consequences against me because you cannot tolerate that I have an opinion you don't like.

You're not arguing against what I'm saying, you're trying to completely remove it. You really don't like freedom of speech, huh?

arista 07-05-2021 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11043441)
Conservative voters here are part of the public, so you are insulting them.


On Dezzy it is Great he speaks his mind
He corrected me
I agree I needed correcting.


Thats why TIBB is better than other Forums


Speak your mind
do not attack posters.

Alf 07-05-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11043447)
On Dezzy it is Great he speaks his mind
He corrected me
I agree I needed correcting.


Thats why TIBB is better than other Forums


Speak your mind
do not attack posters.


arista 07-05-2021 01:49 PM

Great One Alf


Top Quality Film

jet 07-05-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11043445)
Choosing to be offended doesn't make what I say a direct insult at you. You're just choosing to be disingenuous and pretend to be offended in order to try to enact consequences against me because you cannot tolerate that I have an opinion you don't like.

You're not arguing against what I'm saying, you're trying to completely remove it. You really don't like freedom of speech, huh?

You aren’t offending me and I’m not pretending anything because I don’t vote Conservative. I’m in N. Ireland and have always voted SDLP.
You say that Conservative voters are spineless and up Boris’s arse. That then applies to Conservative voters who post here, how could it not?
Of course you don’t insult anyone personally because you could get infracted, but you are still indirectly insulting them. It’s ridiculous to deny it.
I believe in freedom of speech for all which is why I can use mine to give my opinion of your freedom of speech, not to silence it. :smug:

Tom4784 07-05-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11043456)
You aren’t offending me and I’m not pretending anything because I don’t vote Conservative. I’m in N. Ireland and have always voted SDLP.
You say that Conservative voters are spineless and up Boris’s arse. That then applies to Conservative voters who post here, how could it not?
Of course you don’t insult anyone personally because you could get infracted, but you are still indirectly insulting them. It’s ridiculous to deny it.
I believe in freedom of speech for all which is why I can use mine to give my opinion of your freedom of speech, not to silence it. :smug:

You're trying to turn a general statement into an insult aimed at other members, thus, attempting to get it seen as such and likely removed. You can't say it's freedom of speech while at the same time you're making a conscious effort to limit my own.

arista 07-05-2021 04:40 PM


jet 07-05-2021 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11043517)
You're trying to turn a general statement into an insult aimed at other members, thus, attempting to get it seen as such and likely removed. You can't say it's freedom of speech while at the same time you're making a conscious effort to limit my own.

You aren't insulting members directly so they wouldn't be removed, but you are making indirect insults. Obviously. Freedom of speech means you are free to do that and I am free to comment on it and point out that you can't argue with the inarguable.

smudgie 07-05-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11043518)

Best moment of the elections for me.:laugh:

Tom4784 07-05-2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11043524)
You aren't insulting members directly so they wouldn't be removed, but you are making indirect insults. Obviously. Freedom of speech means you are free to do that and I am free to comment on it and point out that you can't argue with the inarguable.

And I'm free to point out the flaws in what you're saying.

You didn't argue against what I'm saying, you didn't offer up a counterpoint, you just went straight to disingenuous outrage to negate what I was saying.
A very lazy method.

You tried to use what I always say about freedom of speech against me but it completely flops considering that I'm not trying to silence you. You feigned outrage at what I said to score points and I pointed out how that is an effort to undermine what I said by making out that I'm insulting people when I'm talking in broad terms. You can be offended all you want, that is your opinion but you tried to get offended over words you've stuffed down my throat. That isn't freedom of speech because you're not arguing against what I've said, you're arguing against what your interpretation of what I've said.

This is why you should focus on forming solid arguments rather than parroting what is said to you to attempt a gotcha.

jet 07-05-2021 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11043566)
And I'm free to point out the flaws in what you're saying.

You didn't argue against what I'm saying, you didn't offer up a counterpoint, you just went straight to disingenuous outrage to negate what I was saying.
A very lazy method.

You tried to use what I always say about freedom of speech against me but it completely flops considering that I'm not trying to silence you. You feigned outrage at what I said to score points and I pointed out how that is an effort to undermine what I said by making out that I'm insulting people when I'm talking in broad terms. You can be offended all you want, that is your opinion but you tried to get offended over words you've stuffed down my throat. That isn't freedom of speech because you're not arguing against what I've said, you're arguing against what your interpretation of what I've said.

This is why you should focus on forming solid arguments rather than parroting what is said to you to attempt a gotcha.

It's quite simple - I had an opinion which had you clutching your pearls and I will repeat that you can't argue with the inarguable, so I won't be replying to any more of your waffle and insults.

arista 08-05-2021 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11043561)
Best moment of the elections for me.:laugh:


Yes Labours Paul Williams
Running away.

Tom4784 08-05-2021 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11043585)
It's quite simple - I had an opinion which had you clutching your pearls and I will repeat that you can't argue with the inarguable, so I won't be replying to any more of your waffle and insults.

You took offense to my comments on tories, yet you accuse me of pearl clutching for responding to your accusations? My whole argument against you this thread is that you're literally feigning outrage to try to cancel out an opinion you dislike. To accuse me of pearl clutching just goes to show that you're only concerned with parroting what I say without understanding the context at all.

You're gonna have to do better, playground tactics work well in the playground, but you're just gonna make yourself look childish if you keep playing 'I know you are, but what am I?'


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