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Tom4784 07-05-2021 12:34 PM

Nothing will stop the tories now, the public are too happy with the boot on their necks as long as that boot is blue.

Pathetic.

bots 07-05-2021 12:34 PM

Patrick Harvie, the Scottish Greens leader, has blamed supporters of Alex Salmond’s nationalist Alba party for a “torrent” of homophobic and transphobic abuse during the election campaign.

Harvie said the abuse has included smears about paedophilia, abusive attacks on his sexuality and transphobic attacks on the gender identity of other Scottish Green party candidates, including the party’s co-leader, Lorna Slater.

“I have honestly never seen anything like the torrent of homophobic and transphobic abuse, not just at me but directed at other less high-profile members of my party as well, and of other political parties too,” Harvie said. “In the last year or so it has increased markedly and in the last few weeks it has been turned up to maximum volume, and it’s deeply disturbing.”

Scottish Green party officials said some tweets had been taken down after complaints to Twitter, but others, including homophobic slurs directed at Harvie, were still live on the platform.
Harvie said Salmond, the former first minister who founded Alba earlier this year, had also tolerated “some really dangerous conspiracy theories” from Alba candidates and supporters alleging, wrongly, that the Greens and leading gay rights groups endorsed cutting the age of consent to 10. “This is reminiscent of nothing more than the QAnon conspiracies in the US. It is genuinely dangerous for that kind of thing to enter Scottish politics,” Harvie said.

Similar homophobic and transphobic comments had been posted by supporters of George Galloway’s anti-nationalist party All for Unity, which is also putting up list candidates in Thursday’s elections, Harvie said. Galloway is standing on the South of Scotland list.

“A lot of it on social media has Alex Salmond’s party logo,” Harvie said. “And those in George Galloway’s other ego-trip party who are spouting the same stuff. I’m someone who has been in elected politics for some time, but if you’re a young activist in your late teens or early 20s it’s genuinely traumatic and dangerous.”

Salmond said he did not accept that Alba activists and candidates were guilty of trans- or homophobia, but said intemperate language was widespread in contemporary politics.

“Candidates, activists, members, supporters go over the score on social media,” he said. “I don’t think they should do that. I deprecate that, and I think social media tends to engender an atmosphere where otherwise sensible people step out of line, and they shouldn’t do it.”

Those included a Scottish Green party candidate in the north-east who had allegedly threatened violence against Alba supporters in a clash online about transphobia, Salmond said

In a statement, Alba denied its supporters, many of whom are openly critical of gender recognition legislation, were transphobes. “It is not reasonable to call people standing up for women’s rights transphobic,” the party said. “No amount of abusive slurs or physical intimidation will prevent Alba from continuing to stand up for the rights of women and girls as we have done in this election.”

Galloway said he, too, had been subject to threatening abuse online, including one alleged threat against his life by a Scottish National party supporter which Galloway reported to the police and said led him to suspend campaigning on Monday.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...nsphobic-abuse

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Alf 07-05-2021 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11043399)
Patrick Harvie, the Scottish Greens leader, has blamed supporters of Alex Salmond’s nationalist Alba party for a “torrent” of homophobic and transphobic abuse during the election campaign.

Harvie said the abuse has included smears about paedophilia, abusive attacks on his sexuality and transphobic attacks on the gender identity of other Scottish Green party candidates, including the party’s co-leader, Lorna Slater.

“I have honestly never seen anything like the torrent of homophobic and transphobic abuse, not just at me but directed at other less high-profile members of my party as well, and of other political parties too,” Harvie said. “In the last year or so it has increased markedly and in the last few weeks it has been turned up to maximum volume, and it’s deeply disturbing.”

Scottish Green party officials said some tweets had been taken down after complaints to Twitter, but others, including homophobic slurs directed at Harvie, were still live on the platform.
Harvie said Salmond, the former first minister who founded Alba earlier this year, had also tolerated “some really dangerous conspiracy theories” from Alba candidates and supporters alleging, wrongly, that the Greens and leading gay rights groups endorsed cutting the age of consent to 10. “This is reminiscent of nothing more than the QAnon conspiracies in the US. It is genuinely dangerous for that kind of thing to enter Scottish politics,” Harvie said.

Similar homophobic and transphobic comments had been posted by supporters of George Galloway’s anti-nationalist party All for Unity, which is also putting up list candidates in Thursday’s elections, Harvie said. Galloway is standing on the South of Scotland list.

“A lot of it on social media has Alex Salmond’s party logo,” Harvie said. “And those in George Galloway’s other ego-trip party who are spouting the same stuff. I’m someone who has been in elected politics for some time, but if you’re a young activist in your late teens or early 20s it’s genuinely traumatic and dangerous.”

Salmond said he did not accept that Alba activists and candidates were guilty of trans- or homophobia, but said intemperate language was widespread in contemporary politics.

“Candidates, activists, members, supporters go over the score on social media,” he said. “I don’t think they should do that. I deprecate that, and I think social media tends to engender an atmosphere where otherwise sensible people step out of line, and they shouldn’t do it.”

Those included a Scottish Green party candidate in the north-east who had allegedly threatened violence against Alba supporters in a clash online about transphobia, Salmond said

In a statement, Alba denied its supporters, many of whom are openly critical of gender recognition legislation, were transphobes. “It is not reasonable to call people standing up for women’s rights transphobic,” the party said. “No amount of abusive slurs or physical intimidation will prevent Alba from continuing to stand up for the rights of women and girls as we have done in this election.”

Galloway said he, too, had been subject to threatening abuse online, including one alleged threat against his life by a Scottish National party supporter which Galloway reported to the police and said led him to suspend campaigning on Monday.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...nsphobic-abuse

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Cry Wolf!

arista 07-05-2021 12:43 PM

Wales Conservative Hold

Russell George 12,013


PC E. Wallace 485
LD A. Alexander 4,207
Labour K. Duerden 3,576


BBCnewsHD

arista 07-05-2021 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11043398)
Nothing will stop the tories now, the public are too happy with the boot on their necks as long as that boot is blue.

Pathetic.


Not on my neck

arista 07-05-2021 12:49 PM

Police Commissioners:

Cleveland: Conservative Gain

Steve Turner 74,023



Labour: 39,467


BBCnewsHD

arista 07-05-2021 12:52 PM

Scotland Clydebank SNP Hold


SNP : 17,787





Labour : 12,513
Conservative : 4,153


BBCnewsHD
BBC1 ScotlandHD

Crimson Dynamo 07-05-2021 12:56 PM

SNP hold Clydebank and Milngavie
The SNP's Marie McNair wins Clydebank and Milngavie, which was held by the party's Gil Paterson who held the seat for 10 years before retiring at the end of the last parliament.

Labour, who also came second in 2016, were up 10% but were still 5,000 behind the SNP.

Crimson Dynamo 07-05-2021 12:59 PM

Keep an eye on tactical voting

Nick Eardley

Political correspondent

Over the next few hours, as Scottish results drip in, keep an eye out for the battle between SNP turnout and pro-union tactical voting.

I’m told Labour are confident in Edinburgh Southern – and believe tactical voting for their candidate has gone up. Labour sources believe that’s happening in some other places where there is an obvious challenger to the SNP.

Contrast that with Edinburgh Central, one of the top target seats for the SNP. The Tories are admitting that it is looking difficult for them in Ruth Davidson’s old seat.

If the SNP win there, the path to an overall majority is a bit clearer. In places like Dumbarton and East Lothian – where Labour will rely on tactical voting to hold the seats – things are still up in the air. It’s early in the day – apply caution. But keep an eye on this.

arista 07-05-2021 12:59 PM

Scotland SNP HOLD
Na h-Eleanan an lar


SNP : 7,454



Labour: 4,013

BBCnewsHD

arista 07-05-2021 01:01 PM

Prime Minister is Live with his new MP Jill Mortimer

BBCnewsHD

Crimson Dynamo 07-05-2021 01:03 PM

The SNP will be worried'

Professor Sir John Curtice

Polling expert

The first three declarations in Scotland show a six point increase in turnout. Evidently, the constitutional debate has engaged voters in Scotland, despite a campaign that has been limited by the pandemic.

Meanwhile Clydebank and Milngavie is the first central belt constituency to declare, albeit a safe SNP one.

The SNP will be worried about the fact that Labour's vote is up by as much as 10 points while their own is down by two.

There is as much as a seven-point drop in the Conservative vote which may be a sign of tactical voting in favour of the second place Labour candidate.

Tom4784 07-05-2021 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11043407)
Not on my neck

The boot is on all of our necks whether we voted for it or not, the ignorant majority will ensure that's the case for years to come.

The Slim Reaper 07-05-2021 01:07 PM

2 in 5 health care workers voted tory :joker:

arista 07-05-2021 01:09 PM

England Local Elections 2021

Conservative : 164 Change : + 56
Labour : 141 Change : -57
LibDem : 40 Change + 4
Green : 7 Change +3
Other : 24 Change : -6



Councils Declared : 17
No Over All Control : 3


ITV1HD news

Tom4784 07-05-2021 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11043428)
2 in 5 health care workers voted tory :joker:

If that's true, it just goes to show how spineless this country is, how indoctrinated we truly are.

arista 07-05-2021 01:12 PM

Cambridgeshire goes to No Over Control


Conservative lost.

SkyNewsHD

Alf 07-05-2021 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11043428)
2 in 5 health care workers voted tory :joker:

Who was counting? Or is that just someone's guess passed off as a fact?

Crimson Dynamo 07-05-2021 01:17 PM

I wonder when Sir Keir will say "lessons must be learned"?

:joker:

Alf 07-05-2021 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11043438)
I wonder when Sir Keir will say "lessons must be learned"?

:joker:

Don't get on your knees when a group of political activists, who are smashing up the place, tell you too.

People don't want to see their leaders on their knees.

There's a lesson for him. He can have that one for free.

arista 07-05-2021 01:23 PM

Scotland : Perthshire North

SNP HOLD

Crimson Dynamo 07-05-2021 02:09 PM

The SNP's Karen Adam has won Banff and Buchan, with 45.2% of the vote.

But the Scottish Conservatives, in second place, reduced the SNP's majority by almost 6,000 to just 772.

That means the SNP majority has been slashed from 23% to 2.3%.

There has been a huge swing of 10.3% from the SNP to the Tories.

The turnout is up to 56.1%.

Crimson Dynamo 07-05-2021 02:23 PM

The SNP's Willie Coffey holds Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley with 52.7% of the vote.

His majority of 11,681, ahead of Labour in second, was up on the last election.

arista 07-05-2021 02:40 PM

SNP Hold Glasgow Anniesland


SNP Hold Falkirk East

arista 07-05-2021 02:47 PM



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