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arista 04-07-2021 01:31 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5XPzwHX...pg&name=medium

arista 10-09-2021 07:45 AM

Live on GMBHD itv

The SNP leader got angry
when Martin told her
she would need a 60% lead
to ask for a referendum

arista 10-09-2021 08:23 AM

Not the Clip with Martin talking to her


Tom4784 10-09-2021 12:18 PM

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user104658 10-09-2021 12:51 PM

I don't think now is the time in all honesty. I mean - first and foremost I think "the time" was 2014 but we didn't get past the post... But putting that out of the equation... There's just too much uncertainty with Covid to be going down this route in the next few years.

I largely agree that she just has to make "independence noises" because it's such a big part of the platform the SNP campaign on... And their voters aren't Tory voters so they can't run an election campaign and then immediately disregard the cornerstones as soon as they get into power and expect no one to notice or care.

arista 10-09-2021 01:13 PM

Yes TS
Covid-19, is not gone yet.


I agree with you.

arista 13-09-2021 11:13 AM

SNP Conference Live
Leader on both news channels

arista 13-09-2021 01:04 PM


Beso 13-09-2021 01:15 PM

Is she having a dig at boris and his immigration policies yet?

Alf 16-09-2021 06:32 PM


arista 21-02-2022 12:14 AM

Yesterdays Paper

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...1-page-001.jpg

arista 21-02-2022 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11043837)
Then pandemics don't have to stop anything.


The SNP leader
said she will not start until Covid Pandemic is
has gone

bots 21-02-2022 06:03 AM

Scotland don't have nearly the same revenue from oil and gas that they had at the time of the last ref, so their means of financing are further reduced. They could of course still go independent, but it wouldn't be a particularly smart move from an economic perspective.

arista 21-02-2022 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11139244)
Scotland don't have nearly the same revenue from oil and gas that they had at the time of the last ref, so their means of financing are further reduced. They could of course still go independent, but it wouldn't be a particularly smart move from an economic perspective.



Very Good Point
the SNP leader
has to explain how she can
sort out Funding her nation, alone?

Kizzy 21-02-2022 01:33 PM

How could the revenue from oil and gas have gone down?...They are at an all time high from everywhere else why would Scotland be different?

bots 21-02-2022 05:16 PM

the supply coming from the north sea now is much less than a decade ago, so it's less revenue. The scottish government also have a green policy so its very difficult for oil companies to bring new fields online

arista 21-02-2022 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11139405)
the supply coming from the north sea now is much less than a decade ago, so it's less revenue. The scottish government also have a green policy so its very difficult for oil companies to bring new fields online


Yes thats true

Crimson Dynamo 21-02-2022 05:27 PM

I cant see there being much of an appetite for a ref until covid is long gone

UserSince2005 21-02-2022 08:00 PM

Covid is gone, time for scotland to go, we cant keep looking after yous

user104658 21-02-2022 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11139405)
the supply coming from the north sea now is much less than a decade ago, so it's less revenue.

Not according to the Tories a couple of weeks ago :joker:

(In all seriousness, it's likely that there are still quite large reserves still to be tapped)

However...

Quote:

The scottish government also have a green policy so its very difficult for oil companies to bring new fields online
This is indeed a sticking point. Difficult to run an indy campaign on oil wealth and commit to "going green to save the planet" at the same time.

user104658 21-02-2022 08:11 PM

My current answer by the way is that I'm no longer sure. The current global political landscape is ... a bit all over the place at the moment. In all honesty I'm not convinced any of it is going to be particularly relevant in 50 years time.

Indy would have been right for Scotland, 30 years ago. We'd be sat on an oil fund that would exceed Norway's and in a great position to tackle the 21st century. But now... I dunno. The window of opportunity may have long passed.

Kizzy 21-02-2022 08:29 PM

There are other energy avenues that Scotland could utilise. They have islands first wind, water or solar?

Crimson Dynamo 21-02-2022 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 11139462)
There are other energy avenues that Scotland could utilise. They have islands first wind, water or solar?

Unreliable energy is not a bankable future

Kizzy 22-02-2022 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11139470)
Unreliable energy is not a bankable future

Well we invested in North Sea gas and that's only lasted what, 60yrs?.. so if the wind and the waves keep moving for that long where's the harm?

arista 04-05-2022 12:50 PM

Was Debated on BBC2HD Politics Live
with an SNP and Scottish Labour Leader.

2023 the SNP
Demand the 2nd Referendum


Johnson PM
still says NO


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