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Cherie 16-10-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11103959)
Both Johnson PM and Starmer
are at the Church in Essex laying flowers

And the
Home Secretary And Leader of the House

Nice touch to see them side by side but should have had all the party leaders there

Niamh. 16-10-2021 10:13 AM

Jesus that's terrible

bots 16-10-2021 09:10 PM

A man detained at the scene of Friday's fatal stabbing of MP Sir David Amess is 25-year-old Ali Harbi Ali, Whitehall officials have confirmed to the BBC.

Police said he was being held at a London police station under the Terrorism Act 2000 and officers have until 22 October to question him.

They spent Saturday searching three addresses in the London area.

The BBC understands Mr Ali was referred to the counter-terrorist Prevent scheme a few years ago.

Prevent is the UK's terrorism-prevention programme, which aims to stop people being radicalised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58943184

arista 17-10-2021 12:32 AM

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arista 17-10-2021 12:58 AM

[British Muslim Killer , 25, lives on
celebrity-studded London
street of £2million houses whose father
is a former Somali official left 'traumatised' by his son's arrest

Killer of David Amess planned the assault more
than a week in advance, security sources have claimed
Sources revealed that the attacker had booked
an appointment at Sir David's constituency surgery
Suspect was named as Ali Harbi Ali; it is understood
his father is former member of Somalian government]



A well off British Muslim
turned Evil Killer.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-MP-week.html

Alf 17-10-2021 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11104135)
[British Muslim Killer , 25, lives on
celebrity-studded London
street of £2million houses whose father
is a former Somali official left 'traumatised' by his son's arrest

Killer of David Amess planned the assault more
than a week in advance, security sources have claimed
Sources revealed that the attacker had booked
an appointment at Sir David's constituency surgery
Suspect was named as Ali Harbi Ali; it is understood
his father is former member of Somalian government]



A well off British Muslim
turned Evil Killer.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-MP-week.html

How do the security sources know he planned this more than week in advance, did he tell them that?

Cherie 17-10-2021 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11104143)
How do the security sources know he planned this more than week in advance, did he tell them that?

I guess because he booked an appointment at the surgery

bots 17-10-2021 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11104143)
How do the security sources know he planned this more than week in advance, did he tell them that?

they searched the properties he is related to, it's not difficult to gather the evidence

Livia 17-10-2021 10:58 AM

I wonder whether Angela Raynor now regrets her ridiculous outburst about Tories being "scum"? I believe the language used both by politicians and the public at large, has contributed to this latest outrage.

When I used to sit in surgeries there would be me, only if it was in connection to my area of expertise, the MP and either his secretary or parliamentary assistant. That's it. There were no security measures because there were no security worries. Then MP Jo Cox was murdered in the street. I visited one of the MPs I used to work with recently. There's a camera entry phone, an anti-blast bag over the letterbox.... How can we expect them to continue face to face appointments now? Doctors have decided patients don't have to be seen face to face, I think politicians have more reason to do the same.

arista 17-10-2021 11:14 AM

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arista 17-10-2021 11:15 AM

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[Cops raid 'terror suspect's childhood home':
Police probing murder of Tory Sir David Amess
search Croydon property where British Muslim man, 25, arrested
over killing 'grew up and went to school' - as it's claimed
suspect is former NHS worker

Police have carried out a raid at an
address in Croydon, south London,
where suspect Ali Harbi Ali grew up]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Harbi-Ali.html


[The father of the Terrorist
was quoted in The Sunday Times
as confirming that his son was in
custody and
saying: "I'm not OK. I'm traumatised… This is nothing to
do with my work for the Somali government."
Mr Kullane previously worked as director of
communications at the office of the prime minister in Somalia.]


https://news.sky.com/story/sir-david...li-pm-12436198

bots 17-10-2021 11:39 AM

having a policeman guard an mp constantly doesn't guarantee their safety. I think they will need to rely on the fact that most people don't want to kill their mp in the same way that an ordinary member of the public doesn't expect to be abducted, assaulted etc

arista 17-10-2021 01:25 PM

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Harbi-Ali.html

Cherie 17-10-2021 01:26 PM

We don’t need to see his Dad, he is not responsible for his 25 year old sons actions

arista 17-10-2021 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11104226)
We don’t need to see his Dad, he is not responsible for his 25 year old sons actions


Yes its all they have.

This Evil Muslim 25 year old
picked an easy target

joeysteele 17-10-2021 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11104195)
having a policeman guard an mp constantly doesn't guarantee their safety. I think they will need to rely on the fact that most people don't want to kill their mp in the same way that an ordinary member of the public doesn't expect to be abducted, assaulted etc


The point is, these detestable people don't care who or how they may kill someone.
I think a Police presence wouldn't help.
How many Police would be needed for instance.

I do think surgeries should have protective things set up.
Face to face can be behind protective screens for instance.

Perhaps too, greater security going to the surgeries, and leaving them.

This is 2 murders in 5 years, where around their surgeries brutal murders have been ABLE to be carried out.

It's not new either.
A Lib Dem MP was a target years ago too, one of his staff got injured at their surgery.

Also Stephen Timms Labour MP was stabbed in his surgery, thankfully he survived too.

MPs are high profile, the media attention is rightly ongoing and all over the brutal incidents.

In the past 11 years, there have been 4 attempts to kill an MP.
2 have cruelly and brutally lost their lives.

While I get what you're saying, I do however feel something has to be done to ensure the safety of life of MPs.
It ONLY takes one extremist, despite every other single constituent who wouldn't, it's that one extremist who cunningly will plan and go forward to carry out their evil intent, so it's ALWAYS now it seems a possibility.
Which is devastating for politics.

We elect Politicians to serve us, however I think they are owed for that service, to be at least as safe as it's possible to be.
They are targets sadly.
So I hope some security measures are enacted.
Safer surgery settings for one.
Plus less travelling to and from them alone.

Other than a handshake, I can't see what other contact is needed in dealing with constituents face to face.
So from behind a protective screen should be the main thing in my view.

Plus in and out by different entrances with company, so to limit direct contact with others.

In Jo Cox's case, she was even brutally killed leaving her office, she needed company with her as she wasn't just stabbed, she was shot too.
So there is the other warning that needs to be heeded and which hasn't been.

The danger is NOT just within the surgery setting itself.
The danger is there before and after the surgery too.

I'm not going into the Labour, Conservative divide on this issue.
I canvassed for Jo Cox, she was a wonderful MP and one who believed in consensus politics.

David Amess is another, he was admired all across parliament.
He was always a backbencher yet he worked closely with all Parties MPs.

It's heartbreaking what's happened to him just 5 years on from the last brutal murder of an MP.

Those deaths mustn't count for nothing, big changes need to be put securely in place, as to enough security to protect life for MPs as much as possible, when carrying out their surgeries.

arista 17-10-2021 03:31 PM

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[Wes Streeting, Labour MP for Ilford North,(left)
and Jas Athwal, Leader of Redbridge London Borough Council, (centre)
carry flowers as they arrive at the scene
near Belfairs Methodist Church in Eastwood Road North,
Leigh-on-Sea, Essex]

joeysteele 17-10-2021 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11104269)
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10...4471280951.jpg

[Wes Streeting, Labour MP for Ilford North,(left)
and Jas Athwal, Leader of Redbridge London Borough Council, (centre)
carry flowers as they arrive at the scene
near Belfairs Methodist Church in Eastwood Road North,
Leigh-on-Sea, Essex]

David Amess was a very popular MP indeed.
Across politics he was respected.

Even if you disagreed with him.
He was still someone to admire.
A truly brilliant constituency MP for both his constituences.
Basildon and Southend.

arista 18-10-2021 05:18 AM

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