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Niamh. 31-03-2022 10:02 AM


Alf 31-03-2022 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11151252)

He's stand up shows have sold out now.

Niamh. 31-03-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11151254)
He's stand up shows have sold out now.

Yeah the ticket prices sky rocketed apparently

Josy 31-03-2022 10:17 AM

None of them.

The joke was cruel but it was still a joke and that's exactly what Chris Rock gets paid to do.

Assault is never OK. Will could have defended his wife perfectly well without lifting a hand.

Josy 31-03-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11150810)
Think he snorted a few lines pre show

Ah do you think he's been on the devil's dandruff?

I genuinely think Will Smith is heading for a breakdown

bots 31-03-2022 10:35 AM

i honestly cant fathom it. He assaults someone, then sits down and swears his head off. Refuses to leave the event, and then parties like its going out of fashion, and the majority of americans support him?

Niamh. 31-03-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 11151275)
Ah do you think he's been on the devil's dandruff?

I genuinely think Will Smith is heading for a breakdown

The Devils dandruff [emoji28] now Denzels pep talk makes sense!

I agree though that there's more to his reaction than just that joke. It's not a rational way to behave at a show where you're expecting to get roasted. Its not Wills first time at one of these things

Niamh. 31-03-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11151280)
i honestly cant fathom it. He assaults someone, then sits down and swears his head off. Refuses to leave the event, and then parties like its going out of fashion, and the majority of americans support him?

I think the tide has turned a bit on the support

Livia 31-03-2022 10:50 AM

I knew Jada Pinkett had alopecia. Maybe Chris Rock lives in a cave or something....

Alf 31-03-2022 10:50 AM

Comedian Tom Segura lays into to Smith. Rightly so, every comedien should be doing the same because it was more than just an attack on Rock, it's an attack on comediens. Well done to Jim Carrey and all the other comediens that have waded in so far.



Liam- 31-03-2022 10:55 AM

Yeah, Chris Rock has known the family for a long time, even strangers know she has alopecia, he definitely does to

Niamh. 31-03-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11151286)
I knew Jada Pinkett had alopecia. Maybe Chris Rock lives in a cave or something....

I didn't

GoldHeart 31-03-2022 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11151292)
I didn't

I didn't know either

user104658 31-03-2022 11:10 AM

I can see both arguments there to be fair. I mean, I didn't know that she had alopecia (or... umm... care... sorry :umm2: ) but then I couldn't really give a stuff about anything celebrity-related on a deeper level than just "kinda liking gossip".

Howeverrr... I'm not going to be hosting the Oscars any time soon... you would think that someone hosting the Oscars WOULD be aware of celebrity news.

HOWEVERRR... it doesn't really matter if he knew or not. No one (I don't think?) is bothered that Will Smith didn't like the joke or that he got angry about it. The issue is a person letting their anger get the better of them and physically assaulting someone. I understand why it happens of course and I think if we're to be truly compassionate, no one should be "villified", you can point out that an action is wrong without saying "So that person is now a BAD PERSON!". I actually have more issue with the fact that he then refused to leave and sort of doubled down on his actions a bit - then only decided later that apologising would be a better idea.

Crimson Dynamo 31-03-2022 11:10 AM

I would not have joked about her hair': Ricky Gervais wades in on Will Smith's divisive Oscars slap as he insists he'd have mocked Jada Pinkett Smith's 'BOYFRIEND' if he'd been host

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03...8685777398.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ir-Oscars.html

Alf 31-03-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11151296)
I would not have joked about her hair': Ricky Gervais wades in on Will Smith's divisive Oscars slap as he insists he'd have mocked Jada Pinkett Smith's 'BOYFRIEND' if he'd been host

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03...8685777398.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ir-Oscars.html

Now that would have been good, I'd have liked to see if Will would have been laughing at that. He'd probably have had the same expression Tom Hanks had the last time Ricky roasted them.

Josy 31-03-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11151292)
I didn't

Same

Niamh. 31-03-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11151295)
I can see both arguments there to be fair. I mean, I didn't know that she had alopecia (or... umm... care... sorry :umm2: ) but then I couldn't really give a stuff about anything celebrity-related on a deeper level than just "kinda liking gossip".

Howeverrr... I'm not going to be hosting the Oscars any time soon... you would think that someone hosting the Oscars WOULD be aware of celebrity news.

HOWEVERRR... it doesn't really matter if he knew or not. No one (I don't think?) is bothered that Will Smith didn't like the joke or that he got angry about it. The issue is a person letting their anger get the better of them and physically assaulting someone. I understand why it happens of course and I think if we're to be truly compassionate, no one should be "villified", you can point out that an action is wrong without saying "So that person is now a BAD PERSON!". I actually have more issue with the fact that he then refused to leave and sort of doubled down on his actions a bit - then only decided later that apologising would be a better idea.

Yeah I agree with you on that actually and he could have stood up for Jada and come out of it as "the good guy" had he for example said something about the joke while accepting his award

Crimson Dynamo 31-03-2022 11:23 AM

why does he think she cant look after herself?

user104658 31-03-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11151301)
Yeah I agree with you on that actually and he could have stood up for Jada and come out of it as "the good guy" had he for example said something about the joke while accepting his award

Honestly a dignified response calling him out for making a lazy, low-hanging joke and criticising his skill as a host and comedian would have hurt more than a slap, and with zero blowback.

Niamh. 31-03-2022 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11151304)
Honestly a dignified response calling him out for making a lazy, low-hanging joke and criticising his skill as a host and comedian would have hurt more than a slap, and with zero blowback.

Absolutely

GoldHeart 31-03-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11151296)
I would not have joked about her hair': Ricky Gervais wades in on Will Smith's divisive Oscars slap as he insists he'd have mocked Jada Pinkett Smith's 'BOYFRIEND' if he'd been host

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03...8685777398.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ir-Oscars.html

Ricky Gervais would have still gotten stick , because as I keep saying when a British comedian goes across the pond and jokes about American celebrities then they get offended.


I can't stand James Corden but when he made tasteless jokes re the Harvey Weinstein scandal, he'l got alot of grief over it.

But Tina Fey & Amy Poeler happily joked about the Bill Cosby scandal and got no flack.

Crimson Dynamo 31-03-2022 11:28 AM

to be honest this whole debacle has been played out before

Imagine Pinkett smith and Will Smith are the Ogg-monster and Chris Rock is David Brent....



Niamh. 31-03-2022 11:30 AM

Oh just a quick point TS Chris Rock wasn't actually the Presenter, he was just presenting an award

user104658 31-03-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11151303)
why does he think she cant look after herself?

That unfortunately is the other less-talked-about part of this story. The idea of "tough guys defending their wives" is fairly toxic as well. If she didn't make a scene herself... perhaps she didn't want a scene to be made.


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