And nothing when you compare what the royals apparently earn the country to the combined earnings made from cigarettes and alcohol which is £14b a year roughly.

You’ll have to excuse SB, he is apparently psychologically affected, just like Harry, by the country having a monarchy. Waaagh! :bawling:

Its pointing out that doing away with their contribution entirely would make absolutely piss all difference to the UK's cash flow, when people are using the income they generate as justification for keeping them around.

I'm not affected because I don't think the Royals have any special status or gravitas whatsoever. The effect is on people who actually buy into the sad myth that some people are born better or more important than others.

Oh I agree that the 2018-2020 period was the era of bad takes from society, or just people not reading a Dictionary to get the definition of certain terms.

Basically I agree with you, I think I've noticed in particular some significant improvement coming in the last two years, it's not perfect by any means, but like you've said no era is perfect.

That's just how it goes though, in cycles. The backlash to the backlash to the backlash etc.

Things get bad, people go progressive and try to fix the "bad things" which then hit a sort of reasonable level, then things start to get a bit silly, then people get tired of it and head back the other way, then they forget to hit the brakes and become a bit extreme in that direction, then people notice things are bad and get progressive... that's the narrative loop of the Western World.

Only now, it's hyper-accelerated by fast, free, widescale communication options (i.e. the internet) so an undulation that used to take decades is flipping back and forth much faster.

The internet hasn't "changed" anything, per se, it's just a (major) catalyst.

I don’t think many feel that way nowadays SB. People are just born, some into poverty, some into great richness , it's the accident of birth. No point in being bitter. :nono:
Many people enjoy the pomp and circumstance, the spectacular mass crowd - pulling displays, the history, the drama. Even America, who not - so- secretly envy us having our Monarchy, had to have their ‘first family’.
Not the superior you of course, you are above those who enjoy these things.

Royals don't need justification. They bring in a lot of cash, not just from tourists. Plus they're major employers. All the infos already online if people are truly interested and not just flogging the republican line. I could go on but I feel like I already have in threads actually about royals.

Any other system such as a president would also employ a lot of staff, so that is a zero argument.

Everyone says, we don't want a blair or a boris as president, and that may well be true, but many people don't want a charles or a william either, but they are stuck with it. At least a president can be booted out after 4 years, we cant do that with charles

You say "many". I say "some".

Ahh an exhaustive look into the things that matter when justifying the existence of an active monarchy.

1) Tourist income
2) Jobs for servants

Well, that's that then. A full social and economic analysis of the value of the monarchy. "There's tourism and they give some people jobs carrying their silver platters and picking their hats and stuff."

I'm 100% convinced now. Why could I not see it before? They're an unproblematic gold mine!

Your sarcasm is not humorous... in case you think it is.

I'm not looking for chuckles.

Sigh......

Always a bizarre argument the money they bring in, as if we wouldn't make more money from getting rid of them, and opening up their houses for the public to go round and visit Buck palace for £200 a pop. The septics and Japanese would flock through to see all the history.

The idea that tourism would simply cease completely if we dismantled the active monarchy is mad. "I aint going to see those daft pyramids... there isn't even a real pharaoh living in them!!"

I was going to use the colosseum as the example ... but that thing would be packed full if they were having real gladiator battles in it.

Fingers crossed for Musk vs Zuck I guess.

Pyramids were not houses, they were burial chambers

Yup. Could probably rent out the queens bedroom for £1 million per night to some crazy billionaires. So many more avenues to making money without them if that's the argument the royalists are sticking to.

There could have been a small wooden house at the top, it would have disintegrated over time... you weren't there...

Not poor Liz's bed absolutely littered with cocaine and cum :worry:

you are forgetting Camilla has already been there with "Charlie"

Surely not... surely even Charles wouldn't get up to hanky panky in his dead mum's bed... D:.

welcome to The Travel Lodge

The jaw - dropping Palace of Versaille in France, no Royals present, has an emergency fund page looking for donations from the public to keep it open. :whistle:

My mind went straight to druggy Harry and Megsie. :laugh: