Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11407736)

Try describing it as a, discarded baby high chair, Vanessa.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11407741)

It seems that the violence occurred because the police were trying to close the tunnel and the Jews who had built it were trying to keep it open. I'm not sure why they would be so desperate to keep it open if they were hiding a load of paedophile stuff down there

I can't really make out anything in that image and is there even any evidence that that is a genuine picture from the tunnel?

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11407742)

There's a video I posted. You can see the high chair.
Of course maybe people were just living down there during covid? Who knows?

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11407743)

I saw that video posted by an account called 'interested idiot' with 945 followers who is a 'truth seeker' and a 'patriot'. Is the video real and where did he get it from if so?

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11407663)

…as I said earlier in the thread…this isn’t as simply layered as absorbing specific bias sites…so many worrying and ‘conspiracy’ type things are being posted on well known community chat sites and available for all access of all ages etc….just by searching for information on an apparent ‘story’….and that’s how these things also start to build…

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11407745)

I've stopped reading most news these days because it's designed to generate a reaction. I feel that I'm in the norm. The ones who do read it a lot, you can tell, because they're more hysterical and it's a vicious cycle, when most articles don't contain enough information to have an objective opinion on most things. Israel/Gaza is one of those topics for me where I don't feel more educated when reading, but rather more ignorant because I can see clearly I have no perspective in terms of understanding what any of those people are going though...

"Don't read this! Don't read that! It's propagandaaa!" Yeah, ok. It's all propaganda one way or another... I check headlines and don't bother thinking my opinion is superior when I do read in-depth, because I'm only getting the gist of something basic information when certain hot button issues are involved. Persuasion and spin in news is often delivered by omission, which is why reading x-leaning sources is beneficial because they have far more incentive to include details that otherwise are mysteriously left out by even mainstream outlets. I'm immediately skeptical of anyone trying to persuade anyone to not read opposing sources because they claim it's outside certain bulwark...


On topic, I don't think that the high chair and mattresses are anything extraordinary if it's meant to be a shelter of sorts.

Re: Epstein&Conspiracy, I'm of the opinion that Hollywood is a scourge of the Earth kind of thing and that the world would be much better place if it were not what it is today. That said, it's not exclusively a Jew thing, in my opinion. Here's my thought...

There's long been elements of what we have perceived as a superiority over others type of complex and thus so much power is brokered there. Celebrities dictate to us. They're not that interested in the activities of normal people. They're here to tell us what to do and to show us their ideal world. Thus, there are religious aspects, but lean more towards the mystical or fundamentalist... add in the prevalence of drugs, experimenting with shrooms and other oddities and it's no surprise many elements thrive there. How many of them use psychics? It's not simply a Judaism thing is what I'm saying. Santeria (some well known people are in it), Kabbalah (related), Scientology... the extreme sides of insert trending spirituality seems to thrive in that space, especially as it supports any sort of superiority complex, and that has always been a red flag. Christianity is shunned more, because of course it's often seen as a religion of the plebs. In Hollywood, celebrity must be unmistakable in appearances and thus there is an emphasis in living a more enlightened lifestyle. Modern day leftism is another manifestation of this, but tomorrow it'll be something else completely when it runs out of fashion...

Anyway, I've indulged with my thoughts, but none of this relates back to the underground tunnels, I think? Why hide such activities in tunnels when it's out in the open in other spaces, at least far as Hollywood is concerned. I don't think that the Jewish community on the whole has any connection to that. Why would Hollywood and the Epstein types want anything to do with the religious activities of regular people? Yes, religion might be a door per say into those things if you're already in their space, but they want to indoctrinate people into their specific version of that ideology. It's how probably so many horrible things stay under wraps. Whatever they practice in conjunction is "off the map" from what most people know of it anyway. Do you think someone visiting Scientology HQ is sitting down in the same classes as Tom Cruise? Leah Remini's written a book basically stating she had no idea of the real impact of her religion because the celebrity side is so different. They're getting specialized attention and doctrine not meant for the plebs... so why would they have a new for a synagogue when they could build their own and do those activities far more privately?

Let me know when Epstein or some other celebrity freak is caught having funded the building of those tunnels, then that conversation is very different is basically what I'm saying....

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11407748)

There are tunnels everywhere though....that have been there for years.

In the town I work there is a church and there are tunnels under the church to a pub across the road as that used to be where the vicarage was and the vicar used the tunnel in times of inclement weather. They are now blocked off but I bet my house if they were opened up there would be a myriad of things in there that have been discarded and people can't be bothered to dispose of properly.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11407749)

It's not right. Imagine hearing people underneath your house. And you don't have a basement :eek:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11407747)

Those tunnels have been there for a long time. And I bet not just in New York.
I think they should all be investigated.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11407761)

Alfessa

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11407775)

You talk about propaganda.

This is what mainstream propaganda has done to people.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11407778)

This story just gets more bizarre everyday.