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GiRTh 30-05-2024 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11458297)
oh look you spelled his name wrong to try and be edgy when in fact you are just copying James O'Brien from LBC

wow

:joker:

Thats right. You've made that point before and I feel its relevant that Mr Britain's surname doesn't sound very British

Crimson Dynamo 30-05-2024 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11458295)
"Wow imagine just copy and pasting everything"
*posts the days 70th YouTube video*

:joker: got to be deliberately playing the clown at this point. Got to be.

aww SB you have some friends to back you up

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f0/de/55/f...fefd20dc77.jpg

sweet

user104658 30-05-2024 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11458302)
aww SB you have some friends to back you up

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f0/de/55/f...fefd20dc77.jpg

sweet

Don't worry LT, I'm sure Parmy, Alf, Livia and Kate will be along shortly :skull: :skull: :skull:. Pop the wee blue pill now if anything, give yourself 10 minutes prep time.

DemRed 30-05-2024 06:14 PM

I don't like any of the leading figures of any of the parties.
Can't stand Starmer or Sunak.
Quite like Bridgen, but he always speaks to an empty house.

GiRTh 30-05-2024 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11458299)
Another good point, but whatchagonnadoo when he totally ignores your request to then hit you with another jokey smiley? Once again totally pwning you and disproving everything you've ever said :smug:

I shall concede defeat.

The Slim Reaper 30-05-2024 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11458314)
I shall concede defeat.

:laugh:

Mystic Mock 30-05-2024 10:32 PM

Greta Thunberg.

I used to respect her views a few years ago, but nowadays she's just as fame obsessed as most of the people in the public eye.

Mystic Mock 30-05-2024 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11458059)
Do you remember our discussion on the existence of a tibb hive mind/echo chamber?

It's definitely something that needs to be avoided.

Hopefully nobody on here is getting influenced into their Political opinions.

Mystic Mock 30-05-2024 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11458178)

A well deserved defeat going by what the article is saying.

Mystic Mock 30-05-2024 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11458217)
RACIST & XENOPHOBIC REMARKS
Farage said on LBC Radio in 2014: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be”. Upon being asked whether he would object to living next door to German children, he replied “You know what the difference is”.
He claimed in 2014 that parts of Britain were “unrecognisable” and “like a foreign land”. He had also claimed he felt “awkward” when he heard people speaking other languages on the train.
When asked in a 2014 interview with Newsweek Europe who he thought should be allowed to come to the UK, he said: “People who do not have HIV, to be frank. That’s a good start. And people with a skill.” During the 2015 General Election campaign, he deployed misleading statistics about foreigners with HIV in a TV debate.
Farage unveiled his infamous Breaking Point poster in the lead up to the EU referendum, which was compared to Nazi propaganda. Farage refused to apologise for it.
During the Referendum Farage collaborated with Leave.EU, the unofficial Brexit campaign run by Farage’s longtime ally Arron Banks and co-founded by Brexit Party chairman Richard Tice, which relentlessly sought to link immigrants and Muslims to violence and societal decline. Both Farage and Tice have distanced themselves from Leave.EU since the Referendum, as multiple scandals have struck the outfit.
Farage is a well-known admirer of Enoch Powell, who is infamous for the “Rivers of Blood” speech. Farage asked Powell for his support in a by-election in 1994, and drove Powell to a UKIP rally in 1993, writing “That meeting, with a man who had achieved so much and sacrificed so much for his principles, awoke all sorts of aspirations in me which I had not even acknowledged before. It inspired me.” Farage also claimed in 2008 that “While his language may seem out of date now, his principles remain good and true”, and that “I would never say that Powell was racist in any way at all. Had we listened to him, we would have much better race relations now than we have got”. He has elsewhere agreed with a section of the Rivers of Blood speech, claiming that the “basic principle” was correct, spoke glowingly of Powell, and has even recited sections of the speech from memory.
Farage formerly had a column at Breitbart, the far-right, anti-immigrant “news” outlet, formerly owned by his longtime ally Steve Bannon and formerly headed in the UK by his ex-aide Raheem Kassam.
Farage blamed immigration for making him late to one of his own speaking events, stating “That has nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a country in which the population is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be.”
Farage defended a UKIP candidate’s use of the slur “ch*nky”, stating “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?”
Following the Westminster attack, Farage spoke of a “fifth column living inside these European countries” on Fox News. “If you open your door to uncontrolled immigration from Middle Eastern countries, you are inviting in terrorism”, said Farage. He has elsewhere made “fifth column” comments in the wake of the 2015 Paris attack, here and here.
DANGEROUS AND DIVISIVE
Just after the Referendum result was announced, Farage stated that Brexit had been won “without a single bullet being fired”, just over a week after Jo Cox MP was assassinated.
In 2017, Farage claimed he would “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if May failed to deliver Brexit “properly”, claiming “there will be widespread public anger in this country on a scale and in a way we have never seen before”.
In September of this year Farage told a rally of supporters in Newport, South Wales that “once Brexit is done, we will take the knife” to “overpaid pen-pushers in Whitehall”. Farage later claimed that he “should have said ‘take the axe’, which is a more traditional term for cuts”.
SEXISM
Farage defended Trump’s “grab them by the pussy” remarks as “locker room banter” and “alpha-male boasting”.
Farage told women to “sit in the corner” if they wanted to breastfeed their children, in order not to be “openly ostentatious”.
He claimed that, in banking, women were “worth far less” than men if they chose to have a family: “If a woman with a client base has a child and takes two or three years off work, she is worth far less to her employer when she comes back than when she went away because that client base won’t be stuck as rigidly to her”. Upon being asked if this was fair, he replied: “I can’t change biology”.
Under his leadership, UKIP’s 2010 manifesto had a policy to abolish statutory maternity pay (SMP). “Rather than playing the ‘money-go-round’ with the attendant administrative burden, Ukip would abolish SMP entirely and simply allow parents who stay at home with their children to claim a weekly parental allowance set at the same level as the basic cash benefit proposed in our welfare policy (in other words, around £64 per week for parents aged 25 and above) regardless of how long they are off work and regardless of the other spouse’s income”.
In 2010, when asked about women’s football, Farage gave the following answer: “Here’s the bigger question. Do we think, chaps, when we’re there in the front line, when the balloon goes up, with fixed bayonets, when the whistle’s about to blow to go over the top, do we actually want to be there with women beside us? Do we? What an extraordinarily bizarre idea! I certainly don’t think so. But maybe it’s because I’ve got so many women pregnant over the years that I have a different view. I find it very difficult to think that we could stand up and run over the top together, into the machine guns or whatever. Men and women are different – thank God!”
DISHONESTY
In 2013 Farage claimed “I have never ever said ‘Britain is full’, I’ve never ever used that term” after calling for the government to offer refuge to Syrian Christians caught in the war. “That is not inconsistent with my position that says it is total madness, in two days time, to open up our borders to hundreds of thousands of people from Romania and Bulgaria”, said Farage. However, a video soon surfaced of him using the phrase “Britain is full” just months earlier.
In May 2016, Farage said he would back a second referendum if the margin of victory for the winning side was small. Farage told the Mirror “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it”.
In May 2019 The Metro reported that Farage had been labelled a “terrible, terrible human being” by a pub landlord, who alleged that Farage had fled the scene of a head-on car crash. “He didn’t even bother to see if me and my little boy were OK. He just upped and left”, he said, and went on to ban Farage from his Kent pub.
ELITE
Farage is the son of a wealthy stockbroker, and attended Dulwich College, one of the most elite schools in the country, which several family members had also attended. Farage went on to send his sons to boarding school.
He became a City metals trader after reportedly being offered the job by a man he met on a golf course. Despite repeatedly railing against politicians for never having worked a “proper job”, Farage described his work as:
“alcoholic like you cannot believe and, frankly, we were pretty amateur. There were terrible cockups in the afternoon, contracts bought instead of sold, some priced wrongly (decimal points and all those zeros can be tricky after a three-hour lunch), the wrong metal bought for the wrong client. When the mistakes came to light, usually the next day, we would just shrug our shoulders”.
“The trading room – full of cigarette smoke, smart suit jackets on the backs of chairs and long desks packed with multi-line phones – was close to the London Metals Exchange and to Coates wine bar, God help us, where we often went at 11.30 in the morning for sharpeners”.
“In the 1980s things hadn’t really changed much since P.G .Wodehouse’s book Psmith in the City. The character created by Wodehouse – like me, an old boy at Dulwich College – said that people in the City spend their mornings choosing where to go for lunch then their afternoons telling everyone how good it was.”
In 2016 Farage threw a party at the Ritz, during which he decried the “career, professional political class” to a room full of billionaires and multi-millionaires.
Despite claiming to be “skint” in 2017, the International Business Times estimated that he had a net worth of £2.4m the previous year. Farage also claimed in 2017 that he would not relinquish his pension from the EU.
In July 2018, The Guardian reported that Farage was the highest earning MEP outside the European Parliament of any of the 73 British MEPs, the seventh-highest earning MEP overall. The same article also claimed that, through his media work, he had earned between £524,000 and £700,000 in the previous four years.
This year Farage took a private plane to Strasbourg and stated he “can’t remember” how much it cost, claiming to have paid it himself. He later tweeted that he had been reimbursed by an unnamed businessman.
In May this year Channel 4 alleged that Arron Banks had given £450,000 to Farage following the Referendum, used to pay his £13,000 monthly rent for his Chelsea townhouse, and even provide him with a Land Rover Discovery with a driver. Farage evaded questions on the matter.
The Guardian reported in July 2019 that Farage is being paid at least £26,900 a month by his media company Thorn in the Side, which he founded to handle income from his media appearances and lectures.
In 2013, The Mirrorrevealed that Farage had set up an offshore trust fund on the Isle of Man, claiming that his “financial advisors recommended I did it”, and admitting it was a “mistake”, and that “I am not blaming them it was my fault”. In 2016 he also refused to release his tax returns, unlike a number of high-profile politicians, in the wake of the Panama Papers tax avoidance scandal

Controversially I agree with the BIB.

Not feeling awkward per say, but I think that it's rude if you're not even trying to speak the country's national language.

I have had this opinion even back to the days during the Football when Gary Neville was managing Valencia, and he was doing all of his interviews in English, it's ignorant to behave like that in public.

I don't agree with Farage on much though, so I'm going to be horrified at the rare case where we're on the same track.

Mystic Mock 30-05-2024 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11458284)
I didn’t say it wasn’t a copy and paste job :shrug:

No on has the time to type out that much wrongdoing from one man

You underestimate my psychotic tendencies when I can really get going.:joker:

Beso 01-06-2024 12:21 PM

There seems to be about 80 to 100 thousand attending tommy robinsons 2 tier policing rally today..a very long line of people.

Beso 01-06-2024 12:21 PM

https://www.youtube.com/live/tMhCCQH...NUi6a_k6RN6P5r


Live link.

Crimson Dynamo 01-06-2024 12:23 PM

Live on X too

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1BdxYrYAYklKX

Glenn. 01-06-2024 12:29 PM

Lmao bless them

Crimson Dynamo 01-06-2024 12:40 PM

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img...=1717245494152

Crimson Dynamo 01-06-2024 12:40 PM

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img...?1717244040807

DemRed 01-06-2024 07:39 PM

I likeTrump and I used to dispise him. I'm also really pleased that Robert Kennedy Junior has put himself forward for the presidential campaign. I used to like Biden, but now I can't stand him.

I can't say I like anyone of any importance in our government.
I admire Galloway because he cuts through the bullshit.

I just wish we had a few Robert Kennedy's or Rand Pauls over here.
You don't have to be Left or Right. Nothing wrong with just picking out the policies you like, regardless of which party they come from.

DemRed 01-06-2024 07:51 PM

Robinson is too preocupied with 'the Islamist threat' and supporting ethnic cleansing to take seriously. Even The Times of Israel and the Jewish Leadership Council can't stand him. Meanwhile, in the US, the far Right fully support and fund his court cases.

Zizu 01-06-2024 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DemRed (Post 11459775)
I likeTrump and I used to dispise him. I'm also really pleased that Robert Kennedy Junior has put himself forward for the presidential campaign. I used to like Biden, but now I can't stand him.

I can't say I like anyone of any importance in our government.
I admire Galloway because he cuts through the bullshit.

I just wish we had a few Robert Kennedy's or Rand Pauls over here.
You don't have to be Left or Right. Nothing wrong with just picking out the policies you like, regardless of which party they come from.


What’s to like about Trump .. serious question !

I’m genuinely curious


I used to get stick for liking Boris but at least he appeared to be a nice, harmless guy ..

Can’t say that about Trump at all


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DemRed 01-06-2024 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11458525)
Controversially I agree with the BIB.

Not feeling awkward per say, but I think that it's rude if you're not even trying to speak the country's national language.

I have had this opinion even back to the days during the Football when Gary Neville was managing Valencia, and he was doing all of his interviews in English, it's ignorant to behave like that in public.

I don't agree with Farage on much though, so I'm going to be horrified at the rare case where we're on the same track.

When he had his account at the private bank Coutts closed down because they didn't like his political opinions, he campaigned, not just for himself but for all the other people who had, either had their bank accounts frozen or closed down because of their political opinion.
In this case, his activism changed things for a lot of people in the UK and the notorious banks that were doing this stopped.

DemRed 01-06-2024 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11459782)
WhatÂ’s to like about Trump .. serious question !

IÂ’m genuinely curious


I used to get stick for liking Boris but at least he appeared to be a nice, harmless guy ..

CanÂ’t say that about Trump at all


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

You have to put aside that he's a loose cannon and a gobby one at that. Truly though, he doesn't take any bullshit.

He has called man made climate change a hoax, whilst at the same time, reminding us of how serious we must be about looking after our planet.

He's built up industry in the US. So much so that over 4 million people were employed in these industries and started to collect half decent salaries. He supported small business and put money into reastablishing them. At the end of his term the US had the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded

He made tax cuts, which radically lifted the economy (which had been previously suffering prior to him being elected)

He wasn't a war monger. Rather than pour petrol on Russia and North Korea, he made a point of making peace with them.

A lot of people kicked off about his policy on putting lone kids crossing the Mexican borer into children's homes. I remember being horrified about this, but then I learnt that many of these kids end up being sex trafficked. That's what he was stopping.

The list goes on. And of course he did some crap things like not including Palestine in the Abraham accords. He did though, do a lot more for the American people than previous presidents.

Edited to say: I believe when any new President or PM get into power, they are hugely dominated by what I call, 'the men in black'. When Trump was elected he was his own man, I think he was probably the first president, in a long time, who ran the country how he wanted to run it and he was hated by many at the top for doing so.


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