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lostalex 30-12-2010 09:14 PM

Yes shame on us. The most prosperous and powerful nation in the history of the world. We're obviously doing something wrong. lol

Omah 30-12-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026549)
Yes shame on us. The most prosperous and powerful nation in the history of the world. We're obviously doing something wrong. lol

Well, some of your citizens are :

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The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. The U.S. incarceration rate on June 30, 2009 was 748 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents, or 0.75%. The USA also has the highest total documented prison and jail population in the world.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) 7,225,800 people at yearend 2009 were on probation, in jail or prison, or on parole — about 3.1% of adults in the U.S. resident population, or 1 in every 32 adults.

As of June 2009[update], 2,297,400 were incarcerated in U.S. prisons and jails. In addition, there were 92,854 held in juvenile facilities as of the 2006 Census of Juveniles in Residential Placement (CJRP), conducted by the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.
:eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._prison

lostalex 30-12-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4026560)
Well, some of your citizens are :



:eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._prison

don't do the crime if you can't do the time. (you know how us American's love our cliches ;) )

You know what's funny about that, it turns out, the counties with the highest prison populations, also have the lowest crime in America.

Funny how that works out. Putting criminals in prison reduces crime, who would have thought? lol

Omah 30-12-2010 10:27 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

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Ira M. Leonard has calculated that during the 20th century, more Americans were murdered by fellow Americans than soldiers died on active duty during the First World War, Second World War, Korean War and the Vietnam War combined.
:eek:

lostalex 30-12-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4026645)


now break those statistics down by race, and it gets even more disturbing. :(

Stop the black on black crime!

Omah 30-12-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026583)
don't do the crime if you can't do the time. (you know how us American's love our cliches ;) )

You know what's funny about that, it turns out, the counties with the highest prison populations, also have the lowest crime in America.

Funny how that works out. Putting criminals in prison reduces crime, who would have thought? lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_i...raphy_of_crime

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Location has a very significant impact on crime in the United States. While some responding jurisdictions are nearly free of serious crime, others are plagued by some of the highest serious crime rates in the industrialized world. The homicide rate exemplifies the stark differences between communities.
I'll guess that the "stark difference" is between 'rich white' and 'poor black' .....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._prison

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The United States has less than 5% of the world's population and 23.4% of the world's prison population.

BB_Eye 30-12-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026549)
Yes shame on us. The most prosperous and powerful nation in the history of the world. We're obviously doing something wrong. lol

Enjoy it while it lasts. It won't be long before you guys are licking China's arse. Oh wait, you already are. :joker:

Britain ruled over one quarter of the earth's dry land for 200 years under the world's wealthiest empire and created the legal systems of countless countries from the South Pacific, to sub-saharan Africa which still stand today. Compared to that, your legacy will pale into insignificance in a matter of decades.

MTVN 30-12-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026549)
Yes shame on us. The most prosperous and powerful nation in the history of the world. We're obviously doing something wrong. lol

Most powerful nation in the history of the world? I think not, you're not even close

Omah 30-12-2010 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 4026698)
Enjoy it while it lasts. It won't be long before you guys are licking China's arse. Oh wait, you already are. :joker:

Britain ruled over one quarter of the earth's dry land for 200 years under the world's wealthiest empire and created the legal systems of countless countries from the South Pacific, to sub-saharan Africa which still stand today. Compared to that, your legacy will pale into insignificance in a matter of decades.

http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20S...mpire_1897.jpg

Rule Britannia ..... :thumbs:

lostalex 30-12-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4026727)
Most powerful nation in the history of the world? I think not, you're not even close


it's a fact. google it.

lostalex 30-12-2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4026755)
< GIGANTIC F-ING MAP >

Rule Britannia ..... :thumbs:


hmmmm, the biggest red spots on that map seem to be Canada (mostly frigid uninhabitable tundra) and Australia (mostly arid uninhabitable desert).

Not impressed.

MTVN 30-12-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026779)
it's a fact. google it.

So the USA is more powerful than the Roman Empire was is it? Or the British Empire?

It may be the most powerful country at the moment - though not for much longer - but not of all time, nowhere near

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 30-12-2010 11:48 PM

i love that show

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/..._3_396x222.jpg

:hugesmile:

lostalex 30-12-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4026800)
So the USA is more powerful than the Roman Empire was is it? Or the British Empire?

It may be the most powerful country at the moment - though not for much longer - but not of all time, nowhere near

umm, yes, do you honestly believe the Roman army with it's catapults and 2 ton suits of armor could compare to the USA and it's army of 500 arial Predator drones. The USA could defeat Rome without even leaving the North American continent.

...and the British empire? we could destroy the entire colonial british navy with just 2 nuclear subs.

Get real.

Name a historical power that was more powerful than the current US military. You can't.

I havn't even had to mention atomic weapons yet. lol

MTVN 30-12-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026807)
umm, yes, do you honestly believe the Roman army with it's catapults and 2 ton suits of armor could compare to the USA and it's army of 500 arial Predator drones. The USA could defeat Rome without even leaving the North American continent.

...and the British empire? we could destroy the entire colonial british navy with just 2 nuclear subs.

Get real.

Oh Christ, you are not more powerful because you have improved technology, of course weapons have become more devastating over time, that's inevitable, but that's not the point. It's an argument that is completely flawed.

Power is a very loose term, but it's generally taken to mean the extent of a countrys influence over the world. With Britain controlling a quarter of the world and leaving a huge imprint on history, they were a far more powerful influence in the world than todays USA is. I could go on but it would just be pointless considering your just being motivated by your blind patriotism here

lostalex 30-12-2010 11:59 PM

okay, now i'm confused.

i thought we were talking about the most powerful country in the history of the world...

what are you talking about?

you've lost me.

Patrick 31-12-2010 12:04 AM

I think this member just shows you all why I'm not America's biggest fan.
Up their own arses to be frank.


I'm going to talk to myself just like Tina Malone did back in CBB6:

Down Blow, Don't Kick Off.. 'Cause if you do, You'll kick off more than anybody else, Okay, Keep quiet and Shut your mouth! Okay, I will.

MTVN 31-12-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026821)
okay, now i'm confused.

i thought we were talking about the most powerful country in the history of the world...

what are you talking about?

you've lost me.

Yes we are, and that is not measured simply by how devastating your weaponry is. Just because the British Empire did not have the techonology to produce a nuke doesnt suddenly mean the US holds more power than they ever did.

lostalex 31-12-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4026817)

Power is a very loose term, but it's generally taken to mean the extent of a countrys influence over the world. With Britain controlling a quarter of the world and leaving a huge imprint on history, they were a far more powerful influence in the world than todays USA is. I could go on but it would just be pointless considering your just being motivated by your blind patriotism here


I'
m sorry but yur just wrong. I know britain likes to claim America's success for it's own, but America is successful DESPITE Britain, not because of it. Are the other british colonies as successful as USA? why isn't canada or australia the post prosperous and powerful country on earth? America's very first enemy was Britain, we fought against you, and rebelled against you, we have made ourselves on our own terms, Britain gets no credit for it.

Britain also likes to claim some responsibility for English being the global language, sorry, that's cause of the USA. USA is the biggest economy in the world, that's why english is the global language, not cause of Britain. If you want to have an international business you learn english so you can talk to American companies.

Stop tryna steal credit for America's accomplishments plz.

lostalex 31-12-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4026831)
Yes we are, and that is not measured simply by how devastating your weaponry is. Just because the British Empire did not have the techonology to produce a nuke doesnt suddenly mean the US holds more power than they ever did.


Yes, actually it does mean that. It means that we are more powerful than you ever were.

MTVN 31-12-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026834)
I'
m sorry but yur just wrong. I know britain likes to claim America's success for it's own, but America is successful DESPITE Britain, not because of it. Are the other british colonies as successful as USA? why isn't canada or australia the post prosperous and powerful country on earth? America's very first enemy was Britain, we fought against you, and rebelled against you, we have made ourselves on our own terms, Britain gets no credit for it.

Britain also likes to claim some responsibility for English being the global language, sorry, that's cause of the USA. USA is the biggest economy in the world, that's why english is the global language, not cause of Britain. If you want to have an international you learn english so you can talk to American companies.

Stop tryna steal credit for America's accomplishments plz.

What are you talking about? I never said we were to thank for your success.

MTVN 31-12-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026835)
Yes, actually it does mean that. It means that we are more powerful than you ever were.

No. You. Are. Not.

Look at the huge imprint Britain left on the world, look at your justice system, your parliamentery system etc. Britain's Army wasnt the biggest, it wasnt especially necessary and was seen as somewhat "Unbritish" to have a huge Army, but it was a highly skilled one. And in spite of that Britain's had complete Naval dominance, no other country came close to achieveing a navy on the same scale with perhaps the exception of Germany in the run up to WWI. Britain controlled a quarter of the world for God's sake and they were essentially unmatched economically and industrially.

To dismiss all of that because the US now has the capabilities to produce better weaponry is just ridiculous I'm afraid. By your logic any country in the world today is more powerful than the British Empire was. Stop being guided purely by your blind patriotism and look at something objectively for a change

Omah 31-12-2010 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026783)
hmmmm, the biggest red spots on that map seem to be Canada (mostly frigid uninhabitable tundra) and Australia (mostly arid uninhabitable desert).

Not impressed.

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Until the 18th century, India was the only supplier of diamonds in the world. Diamonds were discovered in Africa in the early 19th century and subsequently became the largest producer worldwide, relying on Zaire for industrial diamonds and South Africa for gem quality diamonds. Since the early 80's, Australia has been producing the most diamonds worldwide.
Surpeise, surprise - they're red spots, too ..... :joker:

MTVN 31-12-2010 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 4026962)
Surpeise, surprise - they're red spots, too ..... :joker:

Yes, India especially was of huge economic importance

Omah 31-12-2010 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4026834)
I'
m sorry but yur just wrong. I know britain likes to claim America's success for it's own, but America is successful DESPITE Britain, not because of it. Are the other british colonies as successful as USA? why isn't canada or australia the post prosperous and powerful country on earth? America's very first enemy was Britain, we fought against you, and rebelled against you, we have made ourselves on our own terms, Britain gets no credit for it.

Britain also likes to claim some responsibility for English being the global language, sorry, that's cause of the USA. USA is the biggest economy in the world, that's why english is the global language, not cause of Britain. If you want to have an international business you learn english so you can talk to American companies.

Stop tryna steal credit for America's accomplishments plz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire

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The British Empire comprised the dominions, colonies, protectorates, mandates and other territories ruled or administered by the United Kingdom. It originated with the overseas colonies and trading posts established by England in the late 16th and early 17th centuries. At its height it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power. By 1922 the British Empire held sway over about 458 million people, one-quarter of the world's population at the time, and covered more than 13 million square miles (34 million km2), almost a quarter of the Earth's total land area. As a result, its political, linguistic and cultural legacy is widespread. At the peak of its power, it was often said that "the sun never sets on the British Empire" because its span across the globe ensured that the sun was always shining on at least one of its numerous territories.
By comparison, the USA is very small beer ..... :joker:


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