But thats the point we're all arguing- PC gone mad. I'm not denying that there is a wrong ban on words such as 'N', I think thats right. But a line needs to be drawn where anything loosely associated or things where the meaning or roots aren't relevant/the same anymore instead of just putting a ban on the most ridiculous of words and phrases just to sugar coat the English language.

Read my post. I said "I'm against banning the like of Baa-Baa Black sheep but that don't mean I like hearing people use the N word". That should answer your questions.

I agree. PC has gone too far but don't lose sight of why there's a need for PC.

I know you don't like hearing people use the N word but the group you chose to have as your sig,use the N word a lot.I just found that to be a bit hypocritical.

I wondered how long it'd take you to imply I was a hypocrite? I said that because of one thing don't assume another. Thats not hypocritical.

It is but nay bother,i'm not going to argue over it.:spin2:

"A lot of black people don't like to be called "coloured"."

At no point did he say "coloured" instead he used a phrase coined by black people for white people to use. Totally different things.

hahaha what an excellent that made howl with laughter x x

what a fantastic story ang shame some members feel the need to slate you and your choice of words
my mum has a couple of the dolls which she loves
the pc brigade really has gone crazy as for referring to the noddy books these have now been changed so the villians are 2 goblins but why should something that stood for years be changed to suit the pc brigade not the people supposedly afected by them
same with baa baa black sheep at my daughters preschool they are only allowed to sing it if they sing at least 2 other colour versions as well baa baa red sheep or baa baa green sheep anyone :conf:
the pc bridgade are going to keep going til everything we know will have to be substitued for something else so as not to offend
i for one will personally go against a lot of pc stuff to bring my daughter up how i deem fit not how some busybody in a office tells me is the right way as long as she respect all people regardless of their culture skin colour etc then i will be happy

hilarious story :D

some people are so just.... ROARRR about PC this, PC that.

:cheer: Right on the money Angie!

you always tell the most interesting and funny stories angie!! xxx

"Bah bah black sheep is frowned on, but not ever the song White Christmas."

The last time I checked White Christmas is not a song about the slave trade.

"Opraph Winfrey aint black "people" she's a single black woman"

As you are. The difference is that for a while Winfrey was the most powerful woman in world media, and like it or not she spoke for you.

Sorry if i have misquoted you. I am not in the habit of that. I may have took what you said out of context.

You have a go at "middle class whites" for deciding what is aloud. Have you ever thought that these "middle class whites" may be running scared from the likes of Trevor Phillips from Commission for Racial Equality who would be up in arms if a school aloud a kids to be saying things like "your mums a ***" with out any comeback. Now, he may only be one black person, but once again he is a powerful person, that if the above situation happened now, he would be putting huge pressure on the authority's to at minimum suspend the Head.

So, play along with the PC agenda pushed by the likes of the above group of lose your job?

Angie, I have to ask. Do you think it is better that we now no longer have bars and shop with signs saying "no blacks" on the doors?

This is a completely separate issue. The banning of Gollywogs and the use of the N word are only remotely connected.

You haven't even asked for my stance on the word and for a black person I find that a bit poor. You know how contentious that word is within our community and I'm disappointed that you've done exactly what Spitfire has done i.e. you've assumed a certain stance without even asking for clarification.

Firstly, its a good idea to find out someone stance on something before you call them a hypocrite. Especially an issue as contentious as this.

Secondly, Where do I say I'm offended by Gollywogs?

I dont need to do that.

As has been pointed out the N word has many different meanings. Its a word that been around for centuries. Initially it was an insult made by white people towards black people. Gradually over the years there has been an attempt to reclaim the word by black people - rightly or wrongly is another debate - but the fact remains the N word can be used in many contexts and will have many meanings.

In the house that I grew up in my mother and her family used that word as much as the anyone yet my father NEVER used the word. Thats how contentious this word is even within the black community. Thats why I was disappointed that you assumed so much without asking me.

There is a double standard that exists regarding using the N word. ie Its OK for black people to use the word when addressing each other but the word is a total no no for white people. I don't condone the double standard but I totally understand why it exists.

Regarding the N word - there's no point in typing it out in full cuz it wont pass the swear filter. There is a double standard, I totally agree, but I understand why that double standard exists.

Personally, I don't find the word Gollywog offensive but I understand that others might.

My stance is quite neutral on race. I don't find too many words offensive myself but I wont get a soapbox to criticise someone who do find certain words offensive.

Ok, you got me Sticks and as an new covert to the weird and wondeful PC world (you know I even hate there shops)

I wondered if you could delete this entire post as you can see the above word incorporates the P word to which gay men may find offensive.

I have done likewise with the W word in my story about the G word doll.:wink:

Haha ang, your responses are really making me laugh :tongue:

back to the original post, love the story Ange :bigsmile:

Again I refer the poster to his high standards of PC and remind him again to remove this entire post as the above word quoted incorporates the A word which younger readers may find offensive and explicit, thank you:wink:

Once again the poster is guilty of a serious breach of PC and I urge him to remove the offending post or the offending C word which is incorpaorated within the above quote.

Nobody had, we had infact used the name of a toy which happend to be Golli***

I now refere the poster to the offending word and ask him to delete the offending word or post, those that want to live by this absurd PC "sword" orrta "die" by it too:wink:

Unless of course that word is the N word hey girth:wink:
then its a case of If I dont have a problem with it its only Ok if your black and you can then use it to other black people, well thats the rule as of now, its subject to change at any moment people like Girth feel fit to do so, just in case anybody out there who is black and tempted to swarm the sight with the N word.:wink:

:nono: Once again I refer the poster to the same PC standards as his self proclaimed ally in this very thread on which correctness to peoples sensitivities have over shadowed the orinigal message.

I'm sure the poster will wish to delete the offending A word as it may offend younger members and I'm sure again it was with no malicious intent to use such a horrible explitive but the non the less it is there.:whistle: