Freddie has every right to be confident at the moment and not arrogant (there is a difference).
He has survived 5 evictions and now that Kris has been booted, he maybe seeing that the dynamics in the house have changed a little making it possible for him to survive just that little bit longer .
I also think that he meant he would survive for about six weeks before he went into the house and with the fact that to be up for eviction every week must have been very stressful for him and he has survived, of course he is going to be brimming with confidence after the rubbish he has had to endure this past few weeks and I would be the same in that type of situation.

Confidence and euphoria do not always mean arrogance.

Well that's the nature of sheepish banwagon BB voters. Happens every year.

He's clever and knows how to play his cards in the house. He's played the public perfectly and he knows how dumb they are.

Even when it's showed, the bandwagoners won't accept it. Yet they'll use the same reasons to 'hate' (:rolleyes:) other HMs. LOL.

Because it would crush their little bandwagon. They have to preserve the reality of being on the right bandwagon, even if mindlessly hopping on.

Some people here think HMs are criminals and threaten to hurt them. LOL. :spin2:

Of course, but bandwagoners need to cling to their reason.

That's the idiotic and hypocritical nature of the sub-par typical BB fan.

They are cvnts in real life, but hold the moral card to their chests on evictions, as if to portray themselves as fair and good. :rolleyes:

Well the bias and prejudices in society result in double-standards.

It's ok for Kris/Cairon to be womanizers - But not Sree
It's ok Freddie to be smug and arrogant - But not Kris
It's ok for Rodrigo to taunt and annoy Charlie - But not others
It's ok for Freddie to be assured he'll stay - But not Sezer
It's ok for Team Nerd to bitch/scheme/lie - But not Team Cool

etc.

What else do you expect from the BB voting public? Average IQ probably < 90. :spin2:

Actually I have an IQ of 140.

Not trying to brag but yeah.

Btw, I'm glad this thread got so many views. More people who hop off the bandwagon (for all the HMs, not just Halfwit, the lot) ... the better.

Any reason to like a HM based on:

= How other HMs treat him/her
= How they look as primary reason
= What group they're in
= Which HM they like/dislike which the 'fan' also likes/dislikes
= Not doing stuff, or fence sitting, on purpose too, to avoid criticism

etc

... Are in need of change. :thumbs:

Which is why you were the only one posting anything with regards to the initial post.

maybe because it's late night? golden, sisalto, ahmed or who ever you are

The thread started hours ago, yet you tried to spam it.

Your friend, then others, me and that person with the michelle-bass avatar chimed in nicely though, to provide discussion.

I'm just a bitter Sree fan though. So by default you are king. :thumbs:

I don't think Freddie's arrogant at all. I just think he's now more confident - he didn't get a single nomination this week! He seems to be thinking his way through the whole experience and assessing the situation as logically as he can... :spin2:

For me Freddie's arrogance comes across in the way he goes to the diary room to speak to the viewers and relay his thoughts and observations of whats going on in the house with an air of superiority criticisng other game playing when the fact he's doing exactly the same. I think he's quite aware his 'eccentricity' with get him air time, and the diary room speeches are his little 'freddie show'.
Now surely along the way in his life he's met people he's got on with and others he hasn't...for someone with such apparent awareness of the situation around him ....he doesn't have the perceptiveness to realise the flaws in his character that may have rubbed up certain housemates the wrong way?? i.e. asking repeatedly chris and then confronting karly as to why they didn't like him (which in my opinion was orchestrated to get a reaction and make himself look a victim...he admitted as much in saying he would wind lisa up to get her to show her true colours)

I'm not saying he's a bad fella just he's played a game like everyone else yet laughs at the others for doing exactly as he is.....in my eyes this lacks self awareness that he's not seeing he's acting like the people he's criticising.

He's confident and arrogant, but for me thats a good thing, because at least he is being honest and true to himself. He's not sitting on the fence and he's answering every question thats asked of him honestly!

Its up to you lot if you vote him as the winner or not, but quite frankly other than maybe Siavash Freddies probably your only option as the winner, and I for one hope he does win!

:rolleyes:

Seriously, this is pretty pathetic. Maybe he has confidence in his character. The fact that he thought he would survive well into the game hurts no-one.

Your bias towards Freddy is an explanation as to why you single him out. I think all of them are getting more boring due to their self-imposed divides.

And no, I suspect he was thinking that he would get through all these weeks not necessarily through five evictions.

Again: who does this hurt?

I don't care if people have ridiculous confidence in themselves, or are arrogant about their achievements. It doesn't hurt others.

Again, your claims are at variance with reality. Freddie repeatedly said he was not trying to play the victim both to housemates and to the diary room. You can contend that this was a lie, an emergent property of his schemish gameplan (which would be an extension of your bias) or you can cut it down with occam's razor.

And no: I don't see any evidence where Freddie had absolute confidence he would survive all evictions. He didn't really say when up against Sophia or Cairon. He believed he'd survive against Angel and the others though.

Uhm, we do not have live feed. We're in no position to comment on Freddie's actual subtle efforts to integrate. Irrespectively even if not: What do you mean by 'integrate'? I am sure he tried to get along with everyone. In fact he has spent his entire time attempting to get along with everyone in there. A lot of housemates thought simply did not understand him, did not like his tone of voice (believed to be patronising) and found him strange. There's little he can do with that short of putting on a persona or breaking their prejudices.

The outward contempt, bitching and complaints about him came when he expressed his character traits that they misinterpreted, misunderstood and help in contempt. When he tried to defend himself, he was patronising. When he tried to talk to certain people, he was stirring. They consistently invoked ridiculous conspiracy theories about his mentality and his 'gameplanning' and when they couldn't justify them we got pathetic nomination reasons such as "going to bed early", or "eating too loudly".

Half right.

They weren't accepting him because they felt that he was strange and annoying. Karly, Sophie, Kris, Charlie & Noirin have all led lives socialising with people just like them. Lisa has probably also never really interacted with people like Freddie. Their prejudice guided their interactions with him.

You have got to be pissing me. People who lose their temper like those who argued with Freddie did deserve all the contempt they get. It was infantile. The people Freddie was mostly attempting to make amends with believe that public support by the mob and raising your voice so your opponent cannot get a word in edgeways is a valuable way to win an argument.

The fact he is capable of showing such laid-backness is those situations is a reflection of his cool character.

I agree, and disagree. Lisa (and to a lesser extent Karly) was responsible for spreading hate about Freddie. They were screwing him over. But the end result was that he was made and percieved to be an annoying outsider and consequently was nominated.

Lisa's actions are not calculation, they are passive. 'Nasty' Nick was calculating.

Sources please.

What?

Freddie to my knowledge has never started an argument. He tries to build bridges and understand others, but he never starts arguments.

Freddie's problem with the group was that he was pushy. He was actively attempting to seek their approval and understanding. They were in the mentality that when he approached them he was going to lecture them, and talk down to them. It was their prejudice, not his.

Your complaints are inconsistent and biased. If Freddie was a master gameplayer intent on presenting himself as the underdog and the victim, why on earth would he footbullet himself and state he had massive confidence in getting through the show?

And no, I am not your 'typical big brother fan'.

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Yes, I am that arrogant.

blahblaaahblaaah

All of the above is opinion and unevidenced claims.

Right, so when Lisa manipulates it is okay and when Freddie does it isn't?

Yawn.

I disagree. Kris talked to Freddie as if he was nothing. Talking to someone as if they have no value is worse than bitching about someone imo.

All this ''freddie is arrogant'', ''freddie is pompous'' business is totally irrelevant.

The guy is a pathetic nerd. The kind of guy that you and your friends laugh about at work or in uni. The kind of guy that gets bullied heavily throughout his teenage years...

Why would the British public love this guy? Easy...for the same reason they say fat girls are ''healthy looking'' and models are ''ill'', for the same reason they voted Nadia to win, for the same reason the special olympics exist.

The public love a loser because it makes them feel good about themselves. Would Kris have been half as hated if he looked like Halfwit? **** no.

Hang on: what?

Where in society do people say being fat is being healthy? Indeed society is now showing worry for women that have dangerously thin figures and that a lot should put on more weight: but that is absolutely understandable and not the same as saying being overweight = healthy. People who are overweight get a rough time.

sorry but lil gay rodrigo ain't gonna win anyway

Of course he wont. He's good-looking, well-dressed and confident.

I don't think you're examples i.e. the paralympic and saying 'fat girls are healthy looking' are the most well thought out, but i agree with you mate on the fact the british public does love an underdog, whether it's due to the fact it's something an individual indentifies with from personal experience or as a form of political correctness to make themselves feel better.

oh, you are talking about Siavash

I think you've hit the nail on the head with that one.

:bored:

yes you are, you just don't realize it yet

Ok Charles.

you gonna thank me later

Didn't you say you were an aspiring comedian in another thread?

Ah, I see it now! This bit is hilarious!!
I do :love: sarcasm.

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Honestly though, assuming you are being serious and actually think like this, I think your post is a bit sad.
Your comments portray you as someone who is completely obsessed with appearance and some senseless standard of (what you obviously consider) attractive/"cool", and unable or unwilling to acknowledge deeper things, more deserving of merit.

You contend people somehow identify with their inner "losers" when embracing one of the people that you consider a loser. I agree people can feel a connection with someone based on their own experiences in life.
But by the same token, it is well documented in psychology, social science, and history that one often despises in others what they (sometimes unwittingly) despise in themselves.
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