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Enid 14-10-2009 04:31 PM

You could say it's narrow-minded to blindly follow a religion because someone told you to, rather than question it and consider other life choices.

Is it ironic that religious extremists are the most hateful and arrogant people I've met?

InOne 14-10-2009 04:36 PM

Sometimes talking to Theists is like talking to a brick wall.

Wildcat! 14-10-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 2603524)
You could say it's narrow-minded to blindly follow a religion because someone told you to, rather than question it and consider other life choices.

Is it ironic that religious extremists are the most hateful and arrogant people I've met?


The fact that you assume because someone told me to, is where you first go wrong. I know a lot o people who chose their religion. IN fact, it is safe to say that the person who was not born in a religion, and just picked it up, is the most enlightened. And even if you were born into it, all religions preach free will. You dont have to stay if you dont believe in it. If you read scriptures, you will know that most of them state that some people will never believe in god.

As for religious extremists, there are always individuals who use scriptures to their advantage. Doesnt me the whole religion is wrong.
ANd basically saying that anyone who believe in god is an idiot, you are proclaiming that the majority of the world are idiots. NOw thats quite a statement dont you think.

ANd for the arrogance bit, imo, thats untrue. MOst religious people, who truly believe in their faaith, are the most humble, non materialistic people in the world. ANd arrogance is the last thing a real religious person would be.

My point is, you can be atheist all you want, but I would be more sympathetic to you if you actually had an opne mind. BEcause, as it is, you dont. And if you think about it, you realise it.

InOne 14-10-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat! (Post 2603547)
The fact that you assume because someone told me to, is where you first go wrong. I know a lot o people who chose their religion. And even if you were born into it, all religions preach free will. You dont have to stay if you dont believe in it. If you read scriptures, you will know that most of them state that some people will never believe in god.

As for religious extremists, there are always individuals who use scriptures to their advantage. Doesnt me the whole religion is wrong.
ANd basically saying that anyone who believe in god is an idiot, you are proclaiming that the majority of the world are idiots. NOw thats quite a statement dont you think.

ANd for the arrogance bit, imo, thats untrue. MOst religious people, who truly believe in their faaith, are the most humble, non materialistic people in the world. ANd arrogance is the last thing a real religious person would be.

My point is, you can be atheist all you want, but I would be more sympathetic to you if you actually had an opne mind. BEcause, as it is, you dont. And if you think about it, you realise it.


Why would opening our minds lead to god?

Tom 14-10-2009 04:45 PM

Both atheists and religious people are closed minded. Its people who fall in the middle who are the only open minded ones.

Enid 14-10-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat! (Post 2603547)
The fact that you assume because someone told me to, is where you first go wrong. I know a lot o people who chose their religion. And even if you were born into it, all religions preach free will. You dont have to stay if you dont believe in it. If you read scriptures, you will know that most of them state that some people will never believe in god.

As for religious extremists, there are always individuals who use scriptures to their advantage. Doesnt me the whole religion is wrong.
ANd basically saying that anyone who believe in god is an idiot, you are proclaiming that the majority of the world are idiots. NOw thats quite a statement dont you think.

ANd for the arrogance bit, imo, thats untrue. MOst religious people, who truly believe in their faaith, are the most humble, non materialistic people in the world. ANd arrogance is the last thing a real religious person would be.

My point is, you can be atheist all you want, but I would be more sympathetic to you if you actually had an opne mind. BEcause, as it is, you dont. And if you think about it, you realise it.

Preaching free will? That's funny. Do you not have rules and guidelines to abide by? There is no free will in religion!

You are living your life by the book. Time to broaden your horizons.

Oh and I do believe the majority of the population are idiots, but that's not down to religion.

Tom 14-10-2009 04:48 PM

^ Theres no free will in life.

Vicky. 14-10-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2603457)
Why was I warned Vicky?

Repeatedly insulting people.

Did it not tell you in a PM?

InOne 14-10-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ (Post 2603580)
Repeatedly insulting people.

Did it not tell you in a PM?

You put Idiocy. Which is a word, not an insult...

Wildcat! 14-10-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 2603571)
Preaching free will? That's funny. Do you not have rules and guidelines to abide by? There is no free will in religion!

You are living your life by the book. Time to broaden your horizons.

Oh and I do believe the majority of the population are idiots, but that's not down to religion.


Well there you go then. But anyways, nice reading your views!

Vicky. 14-10-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2603583)
You put Idiocy. Which is a word, not an insult...

I dont quite understand that then.

It was your general attitude at the start of this thread.

Was just a warning to chill out a bit. You got no penalty points or anything.

InOne 14-10-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ (Post 2603593)
I dont quite understand that then.

It was your general attitude at the start of this thread.

Was just a warning to chill out a bit. You got no penalty points or anything.

Hmmm ok then.

Enid 14-10-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2603577)
^ Theres no free will in life.

Sure, but Gordon Brown is fact.

God is fiction!

InOne 14-10-2009 04:57 PM

God is about as real as Mr.Blobby

Enid 14-10-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2603606)
God is about as real as Mr.Blobby

At least Mr.Blobby is on TV. God has never made any appearances!

bettiepage 14-10-2009 04:58 PM

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InOne 14-10-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 2603608)
At least Mr.Blobby is on TV. God has never made any appearances!

Yeah, God has been a no show quite a few times lol

InOne 14-10-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rice_square (Post 2603609)

I highly highly doubt that is serious lol

InOne 14-10-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate (Post 2603623)
Let people believe what they want to believe without calling them 'idiots'. Its their choice. thanks

As I said before, if you believe in idiocy you are an...

Enid 14-10-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2603625)
As I said before, if you believe in idiocy you are an...

Shhh!

InOne 14-10-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 2603627)
Shhh!

:D lol can't help it sometimes. But I didn't actually say it!

Vicky. 14-10-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2603630)
:D lol can't help it sometimes. But I didn't actually say it!

Try and help it...

InOne 14-10-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ (Post 2603635)
Try and help it...

Ok Vicky, I think that Hexxagon championship has gone to your head!!! ;)

Tom 14-10-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 2603601)
Sure, but Gordon Brown is fact.

God is fiction!

Yep because Gordon Brown made most laws didn't he? Oh wait no, the bible gave us the vast majority.

Vicky. 14-10-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2603638)
Ok Vicky, I think that Hexxagon championship has gone to your head!!! ;)

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

InOne 14-10-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2603644)
Yep because Gordon Brown made most laws didn't he? Oh wait no, the bible gave us the vast majority.

Have you read The God Delusion? Dawkins gives a good argument that we don't get our morals from scripture.

InOne 23-08-2010 06:07 PM

Bored and found this little gem. Such idiocy :bored:

Shasown 23-08-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2603520)
Theists have blind faith and Muslims and Christians believe anyone who does not follow their Religion is going to hell hmmmm great....
Theists are scared of people with a mind...

We are not all sheep...

Thats not even near the truth, before you start ripping into something its best to educate yourself to the subject matter you wish to rip apart. Can save a lot of embaressment.

InOne 23-08-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3703851)
Thats not even near the truth, before you start ripping into something its best to educate yourself to the subject matter you wish to rip apart. Can save a lot of embaressment.

That is true...

Shasown 23-08-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3703873)
That is true...

That is quite an open statement, to what are you referring?

InOne 23-08-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3703902)
That is quite an open statement, to what are you referring?

Well, I think it depends on what sect of Christianity really. There is so many it is hard to keep up.

Shasown 23-08-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3703909)
Well, I think it depends on what sect of Christianity really. There is so many it is hard to keep up.

Most factions of the Christian Faith do not believe in non believers being sent straight to 'hell', nor does most schools of Islam.

In the Christian faith believing in Jesus and living your life according to his teaching will get you into heaven, not knowing of him and living a good life will also get you into heaven.

In Islam there is heaven and hell (Jannah which has 8 levels and Jahannam has 5), both have different levels, after death and before the Judgement Day the person will stay at a level suitable for their beliefs and the way they live their lives. After Judgement you go to heaven or hell.

If you think about it, both religions have a fair, just and loving God as their head, sending people to hell for not having had the opportunity to learn about Jesus/Allah isnt exactly fair or just is it?. Though some preachers/mullahs etc would have people believe otherwise. Thats mainly to get people into their particular belief system.

InOne 23-08-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3704010)
Most factions of the Christian Faith do not believe in non believers being sent straight to 'hell', nor does most schools of Islam.

In the Christian faith believing in Jesus and living your life according to his teaching will get you into heaven, not knowing of him and living a good life will also get you into heaven.

In Islam there is heaven and hell (Jannah which has 8 levels and Jahannam has 5), both have different levels, after death and before the Judgement Day the person will stay at a level suitable for their beliefs and the way they live their lives. After Judgement you go to heaven or hell.

If you think about it, both religions have a fair, just and loving God as their head, sending people to hell for not having had the opportunity to learn about Jesus/Allah isnt exactly fair or just is it?. Though some preachers/mullahs etc would have people believe otherwise. Thats mainly to get people into their particular belief system.


All that is well and good in text. But it's not how the Priests and Imams preach it is it. Come on...

Shasown 23-08-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3704027)
All that is well and good in text. But it's not how the Priests and Imams preach it is it. Come on...

Thats priests and mullahs isnt it? Perhaps they will be the ones going to hell because of their hell and damnation preaching. There might be a few surprises at the End of Days.

Simply going to church/the mosque, and praying doesnt guarentee anyone entry into heaven. In both religions its how 'God' views how people have lived their lives.

InOne 23-08-2010 07:22 PM

What are we even on a about? God, hell and heaven don't exist. They all prech shyte which a lot of people seem to eat up. If people are good people because they are religious fair enough. But I don't need a religion or a God to be a good person.

Shasown 23-08-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3704078)
What are we even on a about? God, hell and heaven don't exist. They all prech shyte which a lot of people seem to eat up. If people are good people because they are religious fair enough. But I don't need a religion or a God to be a good person.

A valid point but insulting people by saying someone is being idiotic by believing in God isnt exactly winning the religious over is it? If they want to hedge their bets and ensure a ride on the "Glory train to heaven" thats up to them really.

InOne 24-08-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3704190)
A valid point but insulting people by saying someone is being idiotic by believing in God isnt exactly winning the religious over is it? If they want to hedge their bets and ensure a ride on the "Glory train to heaven" thats up to them really.

Yep, but aggressive atheism is quite new. They have had that attitude for years.


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