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Shasown 24-03-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cupid stunt (Post 3113809)
i just did give you a logical reason, its up to you whether you believe it, I FOR ONE DO NOT WANT FUTURE KIDS AND GRAND KIDS TO BE GROWING UP IN A MUSLIM STATE

The constitution of this country is secular that means religion doesnt rule. Athough the number of people who claim Islam as their religion is rising faster than the numbers of Christians, the number of people who adhere to no faith is also rising, at a greater rate than the increase for Islam.

Top tip, Capital letters have greater effect when used to emphasise key points as opposed to when having a rant.

Tom4784 24-03-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cupid stunt (Post 3113809)
i just did give you a logical reason, its up to you whether you believe it, I FOR ONE DO NOT WANT FUTURE KIDS AND GRAND KIDS TO BE GROWING UP IN A MUSLIM STATE

Oh so the big bad Islam religion's gonna take over because of it's practicioners having kids :laugh:

What about the few billion Christians, Jews, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics and followers of other religions that live here? Do they just disappear in this future of yours or are they forcibly converted like a Cyberman from Dr Who? :joker: Please answer, I need a good laugh.

Like Shas has said we have a secular constitution, no religion will ever dominate so stop trying to spread your hysteric bile and stop trying to justify being a racist.

sovietunion01 26-03-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3113907)
The constitution of this country is secular that means religion doesnt rule. Athough the number of people who claim Islam as their religion is rising faster than the numbers of Christians, the number of people who adhere to no faith is also rising, at a greater rate than the increase for Islam.

Top tip, Capital letters have greater effect when used to emphasise key points as opposed to when having a rant.

Nowhere in the British constitution is that said. Britain isn't officially a secular country at all - Christianity is the state religion. And haven't you every heard about constitutional reform? Nothing's set in stone.

sovietunion01 26-03-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3114331)
Oh so the big bad Islam religion's gonna take over because of it's practicioners having kids :laugh:

What about the few billion Christians, Jews, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics and followers of other religions that live here? Do they just disappear in this future of yours or are they forcibly converted like a Cyberman from Dr Who? :joker: Please answer, I need a good laugh.

Like Shas has said we have a secular constitution, no religion will ever dominate so stop trying to spread your hysteric bile and stop trying to justify being a racist.

Well you're very naive then. This is a reality. The birth-rate amongst Muslims in Europe is 4 babies per woman, amongst all other Europeans it's more like 1.7 babies per woman. Natural population replacement is 2 babies per woman. So the European population as a whole is declining but the Muslim population at the current rate has the potential to double every 25 years or so. So yes now they’re only a minority, but they’ll conquer us eventually with their wombs. There’s a demographic crisis at the moment, the only reason you don’t hear about it is because politicians are burying their heads in the sand hoping it will go away.

Britain, Scandinavia, Italy and Spain are in a much better situation than the rest of Western Europe because at the moment Muslims count for about 3% of these populations. But in France, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and Austria, Muslims count for about 6-10% of the population. In France there could be as many 10,000,000 Muslims (no-one knows exactly because information about religion isn’t asked for on the national census) out of a total population of about 60,000,000. What’s ridiculous is that the birth-rate among French Muslims is higher than the birth-rate amongst North-African Muslims (whence they came). In France, there will be 20,000,000 by 2028 and 40,000,000 by 2046 at the current birth rate.

Christianity is still growing rapidly in the world, but that's mainly down to Sub-Saharan African countries which are embracing the religion.

Shasown 26-03-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sovietunion01 (Post 3118138)
Nowhere in the British constitution is that said. Britain isn't officially a secular country at all - Christianity is the state religion. And haven't you every heard about constitutional reform? Nothing's set in stone.

So what you are saying is the MP's in Parliament dont really decide policy, its all decided by the Church of England? And in the Scottish Parliament its decided by the Presbyterian Church of Scotland. The term state religion is a bit misleading, yes Christianity is currently the main religion (in one of its many forms) in the UK.

Whilst it is true that Britain is not officially secular it is a democracy with a constitutional monarchy. Without going the whole way and formally declaring secularity which would mean the abolition of the monarchy as the titular head of state. Incidentally because of this current state it should let you sleep at night without nightmares of the future you envision of a Muslim takeover.

I decided not to comment on your second post as it appears to be a cut and paste jobby direct from The Saint Nicks Pocket Book of Anti Muslim Rants.

Incidentally what rank are you in Nlck Griffin's Brownshirts?

sovietunion01 26-03-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3118298)
So what you are saying is the MP's in Parliament dont really decide policy, its all decided by the Church of England? And in the Scottish Parliament its decided by the Presbyterian Church of Scotland. The term state religion is a bit misleading, yes Christianity is currently the main religion (in one of its many forms) in the UK.

Whilst it is true that Britain is not officially secular it is a democracy with a constitutional monarchy. Without going the whole way and formally declaring secularity which would mean the abolition of the monarchy as the titular head of state. Incidentally because of this current state it should let you sleep at night without nightmares of the future you envision of a Muslim takeover.

I didn't say they're definitely going to take over, but they are going to become more asserative and more influential as they increase in numbers. And if there's enough of them it doesn't matter about some ancient monarchy or what's written in the constitution, with enough of them represented in the House of Commons they could easily reform the constitution. The world our children will inherit will be very different to the world we live in now. This isn't fantastic right-wing propaganda, it's reality.

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Incidentally what rank are you in Nlck Griffin's Brownshirts?
I don't have anything against individual Muslims, nor Arabs, so I'm not racist at all. What I oppose is the growing influence of Islam in Europe. Of course liberals/socialists like you look forward to an Islamic future. :rolleyes:

Shasown 26-03-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sovietunion01 (Post 3118383)
I didn't say they're definitely going to take over, but they are going to become more asserative and more influential as they increase in numbers. And if there's enough of them it doesn't matter about some ancient monarchy or what's written in the constitution, with enough of them represented in the House of Commons they could easily reform the constitution. The world our children will inherit will be very different to the world we live in now. This isn't fantastic right-wing propaganda, it's reality.


I don't have anything against individual Muslims, nor Arabs, so I'm not racist at all. What I oppose is the growing influence of Islam in Europe. Of course liberals/socialists like you look forward to an Islamic future. :rolleyes:

Easily reform the constitution, dont talk daft. have you seen how many attempts from middle of the road politicians there has been to reform just minor parts of it like the Act of Settlement and provisions relating to the Succession.

Of course the world will be different, hopefully with fully integrated cultures forming a reasonable society.

I am neither a liberal or a socialist. I am a realist.

I know I, my children and grandchildren will be able to sleep safe in our beds knowing we have the likes of your good self defending us from the evil underhand conspiracy of those pesky Islamics. Herr Sturmbannfuhrer.

NettoSuperstar! 27-03-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sovietunion01 (Post 3118383)
I didn't say they're definitely going to take over, but they are going to become more asserative and more influential as they increase in numbers. And if there's enough of them it doesn't matter about some ancient monarchy or what's written in the constitution, with enough of them represented in the House of Commons they could easily reform the constitution. The world our children will inherit will be very different to the world we live in now. This isn't fantastic right-wing propaganda, it's reality.


I don't have anything against individual Muslims, nor Arabs, so I'm not racist at all. What I oppose is the growing influence of Islam in Europe. Of course liberals/socialists like you look forward to an Islamic future. :rolleyes:

haha the march of the muslims (An homogenous group of people with the same values priorities and viewpoints) hellbent on world domination mwahahahahaha JeEZ!:joker:

Wildcat! 27-03-2010 12:14 PM

Lmao AT THIS THREAD! :laugh:

DO you know how many countries have Sharia law? I think its 6 or 7. Countries that have a 95% muslim population like Senegal, dont have SHaria law. Ann you think Britain is in risk of having such law. Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: Dumbasses!!

Tom4784 27-03-2010 12:17 PM

Ah what a hoot, this 'evil' muslims are gonna outbreed us :laugh: Please keep it coming I'm in hysterics here, Again the point from my last post. what about the millions of people that live in this country that aren't muslim? Do they just all suddenly become infertile or something?

It's hilarious watching members trying to defend their prejudices.


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