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Spike 08-01-2009 06:52 PM
Alonso will be the one to watch next season, my money is on him winning the championship and Ferrari winning the constucters.
I like Alonso, I want him to win the 09 season
It will be interesting to see whether Massa will carry on from the success of last season or will fall behind.

Iceman 08-01-2009 09:17 PM
I think if Kimi gets his form back Massa will drop off dramatically, i wouldn't actually mind Alonso winning again, but i have to stick with Ferrari and Kimi in particular.

Iceman 09-01-2009 10:30 PM
Just read there on the F1 website that Sebastian Bueimi will race for Torro Rosso next season.

They also gave Donnington the go ahead to develop the circuit to hold the 2010 British GP!

pinkmichk 11-01-2009 11:01 PM
from planet F1
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Brundle: Plenty of red-button stuff on Beeb
Sunday 11th January 2009

Hardcore Formula One fans can expect a lot more television coverage and "red-button stuff" this season, according to Martin Brundle.


F1 TV rights changed hands in the UK at the end of the 2008 season with the BBC replacing ITV as the broadcaster, and Brundle will once again be anchoring the coverage.


Brundle is confident the BBC will be able to live up to their reputation as one of the finest broadcasters and says there will be plenty of "fresh ideas".


"I am moving on now to the BBC, I am going to be working with Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard, I know everybody I am going to be working with, I've got to build some rapport, some chemistry, we're not going to have to work our way around adverts through pre-show and race, there will be some fresh ideas," he told Autosport.


"You can't question the BBC's ability for outside broadcasting, it's the finest in the world.


"So we are working with the Formula One world feed, and a lot of people said 'Oh, ITV missed that', or they'll say, 'BBC missed this', but in the race that is not our feed. That is given to us, and we have to work around it. But I think they'll do a great job.


"It's a good group of people, and it's exciting and I'm looking forward to engaging with the BBC. There is other television that I would personally like to do in the future, and use the opportunity. It's a great brand name, isn't it? I will be very proud to wear BBC on my shirt on the grid in Melbourne."


Brundle says there will be a lot more interactive stuff this season.


"Working around the feed that we're given from FOM - which I have to say is very good, and we're getting more and more on-board cameras and that sort of thing," he added.


"But I think the BBC, once we have finished the main live show, qualifying and the race, it will be red-button stuff then; sort of banter between EJ and DC and any of the rest of us that get dragged onto the screen. So I think for the hardcore fans it will be more TV coverage, yes."
the move to the bbc is looking more and more appealing with each new story

Iceman 11-01-2009 11:09 PM
BBC + F1 = Heaven.

pinkmichk 11-01-2009 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by RiotVan
BBC + F1 = Heaven.
agree on most part jury still out here on the presenting team though

Spike 12-01-2009 11:13 AM
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Ferrari have become the first team to officially launch their 2009 car after unveiling the F60 online. It is the machine that will be driven by Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen as they defend the Italian squad's 2008 constructors' title.

In line with revisions to the Formula One regulations for 2009, the F60 features a lower, wider front wing and a taller, narrower rear wing. Its name commemorates what will be Ferrari’s 60th F1 campaign.

The F60 is the 55th single-seater produced by Ferrari to contest the world championship and it will make its track debut on Monday afternoon at the team's Mugello circuit, with Massa behind the wheel.

The new car has far fewer aerodynamic appendages on its bodywork compared to its predecessor, due to the rule changes designed to cut downforce and promote more overtaking, with the driver now able to make minor front wing adjustments from the cockpit. The F60’s suspension and layout has also been completely reconfigured as a result, in order to maintain optimum weight distribution.

The F60’s design also takes into account two other major rule changes - the return of slick tyres and the option to use a Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS). Ferrari’s KERS has been designed in collaboration with Magneti Marelli and is centrally mounted on the engine under the rear part of the chassis.

The car’s seven-speed transmission has been redesigned to optimise its aerodynamic efficiency, while Ferrari’s Type 056 V8 has been modified in accordance with the new ruling that requires engines to last for three Grand Prix meetings from 2009, with rev limits cut from 19,000 to 18,000 rpm.
F1 Website

pinkmichk 12-01-2009 01:12 PM
cant wait to see maclarens

James 12-01-2009 01:42 PM
The cars look a bit strange with their narrow back wings and wide front wings but we'll see if overtaking is easier. Also it looks like they have done away with all the little aerodynamic add-ons the old cars had, which is good.

I hope the BBC show the Formula 1 support races on their red button, like GP2 cause I like watching those.

Iceman 12-01-2009 07:45 PM
Yes that was the first thing i thought. I mean i saw tha back wing and was like, what the hell???? It's growing on me though, should be interesting to see the other teams aswell, i really want to see the Mclaren i think it will be interesting.

pinkmichk 13-01-2009 06:26 PM
the 2009 entry list has been released
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The FIA has released the official Formula 1 entry list for the upcoming season. The entry list doesn't have any surprises but it does confirm the Honda F1 team has an entry for the upcoming season so its buyers can enter the sport as of Melbourne at the end of March.

1. Lewis Hamilton - VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES
2. Heikki Kovalainen - VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES

3. Kimi Raikkonen - SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO
4. Felipe Massa - SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO

5. Robert Kubica - BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM
6. Nick Heidfeld - BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM

7. Fernando Alonso - ING RENAULT F1 TEAM
8. Nelson Piquet - ING RENAULT F1 TEAM

9. Jarno Trulli - PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING
10. Timo Glock - PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING

11. Sebastien Buemi - SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO
12. TBA - SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO

14. Mark Webber - RED BULL RACING
15. Sebastian Vettel - RED BULL RACING

16. Nico Rosberg - AT&T WILLIAMS
17. Kazuki Nakajima - AT&T WILLIAMS

18. TBA - (TBA) HONDA RACING F1 TEAM
19. TBA - (TBA) HONDA RACING F1 TEAM

20. Adrian Sutil - FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM
21. Giancarlo Fisichella - FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM

Spike 15-01-2009 09:34 PM
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Toyota unveiled their 2009 car in innovative fashion on Thursday, as the new TF109 made its world debut in a specially-made, big-screen movie trailer, made available to fans online.

With revisions to the Formula One regulations set to shake up the order, the Japanese team are hoping the TF109 can take them to their first win since entering the sport in 2002...

Work began on the TF109 last October, with the car’s new shape heavily dictated by the FIA’s regulation changes, with wider front wings, narrower rear wings and fewer additional aerodynamic devices.

“Our target this year is to fight to win the first race for Toyota in Formula One,” declared team principal Tadashi Yamashina at Thursday’s launch, a proclamation that comes in light of their improved showing last season, which included two podiums and top-ten starts at 14 of the 18 races.

“After eight years in Formula One we have gained a huge amount of knowledge and improved considerably,” said Toyota Racing President John Howett. “There are many elements of our team which are at the very highest level so the challenge now is to fill any gaps and ensure the entire organisation is performing at the very top. Then we must put all the elements together and deliver the success we are all fighting so hard for.”

Toyota continue with an unchanged driver line-up for 2009. Jarno Trulli and Timo Glock were critically-acclaimed co-stars for the team last season and they will again be supported by Japanese reserve driver Kamui Kobayashi.

"I still have plenty I want to achieve in Formula One but my dream now is to win the first race for Toyota," said 34-year-old Italian Trulli.“I have now spent longer racing for Toyota in Formula One than any other driver and I have seen the huge progress that has been made since I joined in 2004. It has been a long journey and we have had ups and downs but we have never given up or lost faith.”

Glock, whose Toyota race career began only last season, added: “If you look back at the cars I have been racing for the last five years they have all been quite different, with the 2004 Jordan, then Champ Car, GP2 and the Toyota TF108, and I have been competitive in each of them. That shows how quickly I can adapt to a different car so I don’t have any concerns at all about adjusting to the 2009-style Formula One cars.”

The 2009 changes have presented Toyota and all the Formula One team with a significant design challenge. “This complete programme has been more demanding on our company than any previous new car project I have been involved in,” said Pascal Vasselon, senior general manager (chassis).

To view Toyota’s online movie trailer, go to www.tf109-premiere.com.
F1 website

pinkmichk 16-01-2009 07:53 PM
just seen maclarens 2009 car and i dont like it :yuk: also just read this on autosport
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McLaren boss Ron Dennis will step down from his role of team principal before the start of the 2009 season, the Briton announced on Friday.

The 61-year-old, however, made it clear that he is not retiring, but will instead focus on other commitments related to the McLaren Group.

Dennis said he would still attend some races, but intends to pass on his team principal responsibilities to Martin Whitmarsh as of March 1 this year.

"First thing I am going to do is work harder, that is the first target," said Dennis during the launch of the new McLaren.

"I intend to raise my own game because I think everybody in our organisation at every level realises this is a tough period in which we are going to work and of course we are a very diverse organisation now.

"We have a clear intention for our production car programme which is really a challenge. Any product we bring to the market will certainly fall the other side of this financial period.

"I stress nothing to get too excited about but it is absolutely time for Martin to take over as team principal. As from March 1 he will adopt that responsibility. I will still go to races, not all of them, because I am passionate.

"I intend to work harder and will take on greater responsibility in the group. I will be full executive chairman. It is time and I have to say it is absolutely 100 percent my decision. It is what I want to do, but I do intend to work much harder.

"Don't see it as some sort of retirement, I want to work harder in other areas and having to plan those tasks around the GP calendar is disruptive to the process. It is a job that Martin will embrace and enjoy.

"It is a job over the years we have shared anyway, but it will be his decision to influence things at a grand prix circuit."

pinkmichk 21-01-2009 01:49 PM
toyota are fighting for their future
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Toyota boss John Howett has admitted that his team need capture their first race win this season if they are to secure their future in the sport.


The team have shown much progress over the past year, but with the economic climate being so fragile, Howett feels that only a victory will be enough to keep the team going.


"We have a great team of people and I think we just feel we need to win and it is about time we won," said Howett.


"We need a strong season. If we have a weak season we have no future. Whether we really have to win to stay is difficult to stay, but we feel we have to win.


"It is our desire and our passion shared by our people in Cologne. We feel we must win, and then we can cement and secure a very bright future in F1," he added.


The 56-year-old is determined to increase the 'value' of the team to ensure that Toyota's parent company continues to see Formula One as a worthwhile venture.


"I think what I will say is that every team are facing increased scrutiny because of the financial situation, and we are no different from any other," he said.


"I don't uniquely believe that it is cost that has driven certain teams out of their relative sport - it is a holistic view about the value that is delivered for the investment.


"It is quite clear we need to reduce our costs and I am very confident we will do that. And we need to have an extremely strong season to demonstrate to Toyota that we are value to the corporation for the commitment they are and have made to the sport. It is our job as managers and leaders of the team to deliver.


"So yes, we are under scrutiny. It isn't wrong to say that, but I don't think you should uniquely pull Toyota out from the remainder of the teams. We all need to perform in one way or another," the Briton added.


Team principal Tadashi Yamashina delivered a forthright assessment of Toyota's position.


"Honestly speaking, we are also struggling to stay in F1," he said.


"We discussed lots with the Japanese management, but fortunately Mr. (Katsuaki) Watanabe, our CEO, convinced the bosses to stay in F1.


"As John mentioned, Toyota are doing some cost reduction to get some better performance, but we are still alive and, from that sense, this season is very important. Even if the headquarters had some operational loss, we spend their money to fight to win a race, so it is very, very important for us to win this year," he added.


Toyota finished 5th on the 2008 constructors table, with Jarno Trulli's third place in France the best result the team achieved.
anyone else find this slightly worrying that this is the second team who may not make it to me it doesnt really bode well for the future of F1

Iceman 22-01-2009 02:20 AM
Just saw about the Mclaren "mishap" in testing, hope Mclaren dont let their reliability slip.

pinkmichk 22-01-2009 09:51 AM
havent heard about the mishap will have to go look on f1 site

Iceman 22-01-2009 07:16 PM
It wasn't anything big, just a problem with the engine, but it usually doesn't happen with mclaren. At least it's in testing and not the real thing.

pinkmichk 22-01-2009 07:19 PM
at least they have time to sort it theres bound to be some problems with the amount of changes this year

Iceman 22-01-2009 10:18 PM
Yeah lots of changes! Also i read today that a lot of the testing's had to be cancelled due to heavy rain and heavy wind, so with the engine problem and the weather still no clear indication of who's coping better with the changes.

Iceman 17-02-2009 04:01 PM
ING leaving F1 after this season. Things don't look good for the future.

pinkmichk 17-02-2009 06:43 PM
it is a very worrying sign i hope F1 doesnt go:sad:

Iceman 17-02-2009 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by pinkmichk
it is a very worrying sign i hope F1 doesnt go:sad:
I know, things are really really bad now, i hope it stays i'd be gutted if it went. What if this is the last season:conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2:

pinkmichk 17-02-2009 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by GoKart
Quote:
Originally posted by pinkmichk
it is a very worrying sign i hope F1 doesnt go:sad:
I know, things are really really bad now, i hope it stays i'd be gutted if it went. What if this is the last season:conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2:
:bawling: i'd cry .... a lot
i read somewhere about a american team (from nascar i think) starting a new team to take part but surely would make more sense to buy one of the existing ones in trouble :puzzled:

Iceman 17-02-2009 10:06 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Quote:
Originally posted by GoKart
Quote:
Originally posted by pinkmichk
it is a very worrying sign i hope F1 doesnt go:sad:
I know, things are really really bad now, i hope it stays i'd be gutted if it went. What if this is the last season:conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2:
:bawling: i'd cry .... a lot
i read somewhere about a american team (from nascar i think) starting a new team to take part but surely would make more sense to buy one of the existing ones in trouble :puzzled:
Yeah they want to come in for 2010, i think they got the go ahead. Also Bernie said in the Times on sunday that he may be in a position to help the Honda team financially, he's just unsure how to go about it.

andyman 18-02-2009 02:30 AM
When does the 2009 season start, where and at what time at the venue?

F1 will live on no matter what, changes will happen anyway.

pinkmichk 18-02-2009 08:56 AM
starts 29th march in australia i dont know time

Spike 18-02-2009 12:53 PM
Yeah the opening weekend to the season is 27th-29th March. Below are the UK times of when it will be live

Fri 27 March 2009
Friday Practice 1 01:30 - 03:00
Friday Practice 2 05:30 - 07:00
Sat 28 March 2009
Saturday Practice 03:00 - 04:00
Qualifying 06:00
Sun 29 March 2009
Race 07:00

pinkmichk 18-02-2009 01:24 PM
7am i can deal with its the 4am starts i cant

Spike 18-02-2009 01:27 PM
I will just watch the re-runs later on in the day well hopefully the BBC will show re-runs

pinkmichk 18-02-2009 01:30 PM
i much prefere watching it live if i can cos often the radio and tv reveal results :rolleyes: without any if you dont want to know look away type warning

Iceman 18-02-2009 09:15 PM
Oh Richard Branson made a bid for Honda, i'll see if i can get a link!

Iceman 18-02-2009 09:18 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...nd-Virgin.html

Link

This should be good, hopefully this goes through.

Iceman 16-03-2009 12:49 AM
Bump because we're less than 2 weeks away now:colour: should be intresting to see how Brawn do!

James 16-03-2009 12:59 AM
Yeah with Brawn GP being fastest in testing and McLaren being right off the pace.

Iceman 16-03-2009 01:04 AM
I know Brawn shocked me, hopefully they do good poor Jenson deserves it, and i think Mclaren will iron out the kinks by the second race. But to be honest i think this year will be the closest in a long time with no clear leaders.

pinkmichk 16-03-2009 08:46 AM
i cant wait i've already booked my babysitter so i can watch the first race in peace :hello:
i think its gonna be a good season

Iceman 16-03-2009 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by pinkmichk
i cant wait i've already booked my babysitter so i can watch the first race in peace :hello:
i think its going to be a good season
It's not going to be a good season, It's going to be a GREAT season:hello::joker:

pinkmichk 17-03-2009 03:49 PM
just heard briefly on the news that the winner of this season is gonna be done on the most races won :bored:

James 17-03-2009 03:58 PM
Yeah, I just read it there ...don't like it much. There doesn't seem to be much incentive to race for the lower-down places. :s

The optional budget-cap for next season sounds okay, as does publishing the weights of cars after qualifying.

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F1 wins will decide world title


Formula 1 has introduced a new points system which will result in the driver with most wins crowned world champion.

The current points system will still operate to decide a tie if two drivers have the same wins and to define all other championship positions.

Had the new rules been in place in 2008, Lewis Hamilton would have lost the title to runner-up Felipe Massa.

From 2010, there will be an optional budget cap of £30m that will reduce some teams' spending by 90%.

The new rules were approved by the World Motor Sport Council of governing body the FIA at a meeting in Paris on Tuesday.

It rejected a proposal by the F1 Teams' Association to tweak the points system to 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1 from first to eighth places.

Instead, the current 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 system will stay in place.

The budget cap is an attempt to make F1 more accessible to new teams.

Teams choosing to operate within the budget cap will be allowed more technical freedom.

Those teams will be allowed: a more aerodynamically efficient (but standard) underbody; movable wings; an engine which is not subject to a rev limit or a development freeze.

Teams can choose to spend what they like, but operate within more restrictive technical rules - and therefore have a theoretically slower car.


Ecclestone's idea was to award the top three drivers with gold, silver and bronze medals with the driver capturing the most golds crowned champion.

While the medals have been abandoned, the new system delivers on Ecclestone's wish of rewarding the driver with the most victories.

The F1 chief believes the new system will encourage overtaking.

"If you're in the lead and I'm second, I'm not going to take the risk of falling off the circuit or doing something stupid to get two points," Ecclestone said in November.

"If I need a gold medal to win the championship, I will overtake. It's just not on that someone can win the championship without winning a race."

However, the new system could see the season settled much earlier.

The points distribution was introduced in 2003, partly to try to ensure the world championship stayed open for longer at a time when Michael Schumacher and Ferrari were dominating the sport.

If the new system had been installed in 2008, Massa would have been crowned world champion as he won six races compared to Hamilton's five.

Former British F1 driver now commentator Martin Brundle says he will reserve judgement on the alterations.

"I don't really fully see the need to change it," he said. "What we may just have is some more exciting races where they're desperate to take the win rather than settling for second on a particular day, but whether it will generate a more worthy champion remains to be seen."

The FIA also announced plans to publish the weights of the cars after qualifying for each Grand Prix.

That could give a clue to which teams are using the optional kinetic energy recovery system (Kers).

Kers, which allows drivers a boost of an extra 80bhp for 6.7 seconds each lap, weighs around 35kg and could tip some cars - complete with their drivers - over the minimum weight of 605kg.

To improve clarity, wet tyres have also been renamed "intermediates" and extreme weather tyres are now called "wet".

With in-season testing now banned, the FIA will only allow teams to carry out eight one-day aerodynamic tests on a straight piece of track.

Teams will also be allowed to carry out three one-day young driver training tests between the season-ending Grand Prix and the end of the calendar year.

TITLES THAT WOULD HAVE CHANGED
1958: Actual champion: Mike Hawthorne
Most wins champion: Stirling Moss
1964: Actual champion: John Surtees
Most wins champion: Jim Clark
1967: Actual champion: Denny Hulme
Most wins champion: Jim Clark
1977: Actual champion: Niki Lauda
Most wins champion: Mario Andretti
1979: Actual champion: Jody Scheckter
Most wins champion: Alan Jones
1981: Actual champion: Nelson Piquet
Most wins champion: Alain Prost
1982: Actual champion: Keke Rosberg
Most wins champion: Didier Pironi
1983: Actual champion: Nelson Piquet
Most wins champion: Alain Prost
1984: Actual champion: Niki Lauda
Most wins champion: Alain Prost
1986: Actual champion: Alain Prost
Most wins champion: Nigel Mansell
1987: Actual champion: Nelson Piquet
Most wins champion: Nigel Mansell
1989: Actual champion: Ayrton Senna
Most wins champion: Alain Prost
2008: Actual champion: Lewis Hamilton
Most wins champion: Felipe Massa
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7948455.stm

pinkmichk 17-03-2009 04:03 PM
i agree the budget cap sounds ok
but why change something if it aint broke why fix it :conf: i like how it is now where it goes often right to the wire of the last race i dont like that the season could be 'over' and done with when its not completed could have some bad effect on the end of season races will drivers just think oh i dont need to put in too much effort as nowt to gain from it
:rolleyes: ecclestone is a idiot he really is


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