In the wise words of Jedward "Those that matter don't mind and those that mind don't matter" :wink:

Jedward and 'wise words' are a contradiction of terms... and should never to be used in the same sentence !!!:joker:

I actually rather like that! ;)

Me too !!

:love:

I accept that's the case with some twins too but then on the other side, I have 2 sets of twins as cousins,one set female and one set male,they are, without the zany behaviour,almost the same as Jedward in that they hate being separate anywhere, they eat the same things go to the same places, dress identical near most of the time.Always go on holiday together.
If they come to family or others gatherings/parties they are dressed identically.the amazing thing is they also seem to know what the other thinks too.I have listened to them say word for word at the same time answers to things

On the rare times I have seen one without the other,they are very quiet, keep away from all that is going on really.Once the other is there it's like someone put the plug in the socket and switched them on.

Which is why because I have seen this closeness in my own family as to twins,Jedward don't seem to be odd at all to me.

They are likely more intense,close and protective on things because they are in show business,their closeness will help massively there because the world of showbusinesss is filled with false people and usually fair weather friends.

Their zaniness and off behaviour at times is part of their act and appeal, some love it, like I do, some detest it totally. You can however say that with near everyone in showbusiness.

Some thought,just as an example, Tommy Cooper a genius, others thought he was plain stupid.

They don't drink, they don't smoke, they don't swear. they don't bitch, they haven't maimed anyone in a bare knuckle fight, they haven't had their children watch them become a drug and alcoholic mess. They've made a mess in a house that nobody's saved their hard earned cash to buy, its just a set for a TV show - Jeez they're evil sons of bitches

Yeah.............I blame the parents :bored:

All of which you say above may indeed be true ... but it still doesn't mean people should like them. None of that mitigates them from being incredibly selfish in the house, destructive towards the furnishings and fitting, clearly disregarding and disrespecting the place that is not only their home, but the home that they are sharing.

Food stuffs being dropped on the floor, being left for hours, refusing to clean it up, having other hms needing to do it instead.

It's like they've been brought up in Disney World all their lives or something. It's all about having "fun" to them.

I imagine their parents are very proud of them and would not for one single second accept there was anything wrong with the parenting.

I was amused though at this from Twitter:

They'll marry her? Bigamy? :D

They haven't got a clue really have they?

Add to all that pinching ,which to me is a dirty, low crime and before Jedward fans jump on to tell me it was fun ..it was NOT it was theft

clearly they have been raised to disrespect the belongings of other people, to disrespect shared spaces, expect to make a mess of the place and not clean up after them.

Flooding the bathroom for nothing more than attention seeking. Eggs being chucked all over the bedroom where people have their personal belongings - where they have to sleep.

Dont' get me wrong here: they've livened up the show: I won't deny that.... but let's not kid on that they are 2 really nice polite, well mannered, respectful young men with absolutely no faults.

I'd like to see how they would react if BB came in, got all their personal clothing, shoes etc and smashed raw eggs into them - jedward are very protective over their own belongings...shame they have no respect for anyone elses.

Yeah, I reckon Paddy never pinched anything in his life :rolleyes:

Perhaps Jedward are pushing for the sympathy vote...:joker:

Racist :idc:

We are talking about whats happened in the house

:worship::worship::worship:

he's the same race as me :idc:

Sorry ...I must have missed the bit where he's pinched stuff in the house. Isn't that what we are discussing? Big Brother and what is happening with those in the house? :rolleyes:

They've always cleaned up after most of the mess that they make in the actual house though.the only thing they didn't clean up was after the cooking task and I doubt they were really expected to.

That wasn't done in the house kitchen, it was set up in a task room,in all BBs no matter the mess after tasks housemates never cleaned up the task rooms, paid BB staff do that.
Just as with Lucien and Tara on a special room off the house for their special meal,they threw food and drink at each other but again as ever BB staff are paid to clean those rooms,housemates are responsible for the main house.

As for stealing, they should have asked Amy for the eyeliner, however she would have given them it anyway had they asked, yes that was ill advised but hardly the crime of the century.
In the past housemates have taken shoes and hidden them,really stolen others cigarettes, drink and biscuits too.

They will likely re-imburse Amy with hundreds of eyeliners if she wants them, she was just having a really bad day that day.

Always knew you were a Pikey deep down :tongue:

Would you mind getting up please and stop using the shin pads ...we're gonna need to keep them for Lucien at the rate he keeps falling over himself - save his pretty little legs from those nasty bruises.

:D

Well, my dislike for Kerry Katona is based on stuff that happened outside the house, that's my prerogative , it gives a more well rounded opinion to take both inside and outside the house into consideration..................in my opinion of course

:suspect:

I think you will find that's incorrect.

In the first week, one of them pulled a large plastic container full of somethign like coleslaw from the fridge - opened the lid, and just about poured it out all over the floor - he tilted the container, it began dripping out and he let it.... stood there and let it then threw the container on the floor beside the mess. Not only did he allow the full contents to spill out, he then chucked the lid down beside the rest of the mess.

he then went away: left it, for him and is brother to continue their attention seeking Jedward faux interview show - in which I think Lucien, amy and Bobby sat there and watched..... with the twins having their shoes/clothes spread all over the palce.

Despite being told to clean the mess up, it was left for ages... until poor Kerry came along and did it;.

Didn't Kerry have to lose the rag with them only the other night with the mess they had made - having to TELL them to get it cleaned up,.
...... as well as the Kitchen task.

they have no respect of anyone or anyone's belongings in their. None

Jedward are a mixture of nice and not so nice.

OMG............. perhaps they are actually quite............ NORMAL ???

:joker:

Conversely: I intensely dislike Paddy and his persona outside; yet I watch BB and base my thoughts on how I see him interact in that environment, with the others that he is sharing the BB house with. Given that it is a rather surreal and unnatural environment to be in. ;)

well, each to their own I guess

I think I said to be fair 'most' things in my post not all.Highlighting the main thing they didn't clean up as after the cooking task in the false kitchen in the task room.
After Kerry told them to clean the mess up, they did and even Darryn said they'd done a brilliant job all through the house, it was possibly cleaner than when they all went in it.

Still I give up trying to get people who really hate Jedward to give any credit to them,they only ever look for the negatives of them personally and professionally.

It's a rare thing to find in showbusiness an act that doesn't use foul language,on stage or on TV, they never do, they always say thank you to people too. Few notice that though,just looking for something to put them down on.

Having a supposed squeaky clean image - when it's clear these two have no respect for others around them, for belongings of others, nor respecting a house that they share with others - is enough for me to dislike them - together with their unbelievably level of immaturity.

As I say: I'd like to see someone smashing foodstuffs into their belongings, letting it sit for long enough, and see how tolerant Jedward were then.

Or would they throw the petulant petted lips out - the same way they have done because (most likely) BB told them off.

I get you didn't see the clip of them standing there giving their fans the two fingers when they were inside Lidl the othe night then...... the sign for "F>>> you, get it up you" etc.... they weren't giving people the vickies and thinking it meant "Good evening, hope you are all well and are enjoying the show".

I'm hazarding a guess that Jedward aren't quite as wholesome as their public persona and their PR spin makes us believe.

Hi Pyramid, welcome back :hug: Hopefully we'll be on the same side for BB:hugesmile:

Yeah, this 'I've messed up but I'm trying to make it up now' crap, I can't see that watching your mum pissed on TV, draped over a lad only 9 years older than you and disappearing into the loos with him is exactly what a 10year girl wants. Yep it's all about the kids with Kerry:rolleyes:

I don't think that image has fundamentally changed.

If they are seen as having a bit of a 'bad boy' streak, it won't do them any harm at all.

I have a feeling that some of their behaviour has been egged on by BB though. ;)

I near always in the main agree with you but don't on this at all.That saddens me.I have though had enough stick and ridicule to me as to Jedward from some on here and had personal insults too.

It's a wonder though some people even allow them to breathe all these terrible things they do.

I will not try to debate them further with you, your mind is made up and we will go round in circles but I can see lots of good in them.
They really entertain me,their concerts are one the best,most enjoyable high energy shows I have been to.
They are always very polite and meet you afterwards and are genuinely interested in and love their fans.

If thats awful people then I am happy to support awful people.

I suspect a lot of the Jed-haters would alter their views if the actually met the twins in person.

I would be amazed if any of the HMs had anything bad to say about them, even Darryn.

Aww Joey:hug:
Before CBB, I've always thought Jedward seemed nice enough, you know kind of ok and harmless, they've had to put up with a lot of hate for two young lads. But since CBB, I like them a whole lot more. I'm officially a Jedward fan loud and proud, em 'just sayin':thumbs:

I'm not entirely sure why there appears to be such angst in your post. BB as you know is one of these shows whereby people who usually agree and find common ground: can have polar opposite opinions.

This is one of those areas as far as you and I are concerned, it's certainly nothing personal.

I find it all too much of a sham act from them. that's how I see them. I'm most certainly not ridiculing you for supporting anyone, Jedward or any other housemate: and I've certainly not insulted you.

I am putting over the very reasons why I don't like them. It's certainly not personal against you. I admire you for standing up for your convictions so well - we simply don't agree as far as jeward are concerned. That makes neither of us bad people.

so come here....:hug:

That's a real nice post Ammi,thank you. I guess since I have met them and see how they are after shows with their fans,with the younger people there,who are there with their parents and how friendly and polite they are to all of them that I have a totally different perspective of them.

Not liking them for their act I can understand but then why watch them at all,if they don't like them, the personal hate directed at them and their fans though is absolutely out of order and disgusting,on here too.

I am only 19 myself, also because I am a student you get all sorts of people putting you down and generalising at times.
Like you though I am proud to be a Jedward fan.

joey...it's not the Jedward show. It's Big Brother - and they are only part of the show, therefore those who watch the show, have to take into account them being in the house - to determine what they, the viewer, think Jedward and all other housemates add / give to the being in there.

People are going to absolutely detest them for their own reasons. It's not disgusting...it is life. I'm not seeing hatred being shown towards jedward fans: but toward Jedward.

If this is getting to you so much, it might be worthwhile taking a little step back - as it seems as though you are taking this all way too personally. It's not about you. it is about them.

Yes I'm sure that the celebrities known as Jedward are miles apart from the boys who are John and Edward, it's a shame the haters are not willing to open their minds and see that, but I guess the being marmite thing is a big part of why they've been so successful, so probably they don't mind