I hate bitches! I've always preferred make company and feel a lot more relaxed around men.
Thankfully however I do have a group of close, female, non-bitchy friends.

neither were men. have you seen england in the black and white days? stiff as a board....why distinguish between the 2 sexes here?

I can honestly say in the 18 years I spent in school and the 4 years in uni, I dont recall any of my male mates ever being bitchy....we just played , fished, drunk , chased girls, shared cds , movies, went on hols, chased more girls, went to the football, rugby, cricket etc etc I must have lived a sheltered life because ive never even come across this bitching until later in life....I look back now a few years and realise I didnt miss a thing and than God for a pretty idyllic childhood free from this negative nonsense.

A lot of women pretend to not like really good looking men because they are insecure in themselves. I don't think it's because women arn't attracted to good looking men though, it's just because they are too insecure to go after really good looking men. They prefer to be with guys that are less attractive because it makes them feel more in control and that they have more power because they are the more attractive one in the relationship.

No woman wants to be with a guy that gets more attention than them. Or have people whispering behind their backs why is HE with HER?

If you go with the rating system 1-10, most women would want a man that is rated lower than they are, so if a woman is a 7 she'd prefer to be with a man that is a 6, no woman that's a 7, wants to be with a guy that's a 8 or 9, because it would make her insecure.

I think men try to go for women that are higher on the scale than they are. If a guy is a 7, he'd be VERY happy to get with a woman that's an 8 or a 9.

That's what i've noticed at least. You don't often see women with a guy that's more attractive than they are, or higher on the scale. It's very common to see men with women that are more attractive though.

There may be some truth in this. Cant see women wanting to be with a man "prettier" than them. In Beatles heyday Linda McCartney got so much stick when she dated and subsequently married Sir Paul. She was deemed to "ugly" for him. When Michael INXS Hutchence hooked up with Paula Radcliffe people just thought "ewwww he can do way better".

When BB11 John James shunned Rachel W for Josie most people who liked him were shocked and a bit impressed. "If he likes Josie, then theres hope for me" they thought. Ahem. He was way out of her league loads of folk such me didnt believe he fancied an overweight plain Jane.

Very well said, Girth!

Well I'm not English so I don't know, but you do seem to be a bit more conservative and well manerred than Americans in some cases.

Those magazine surveys are ridiculous, but when I was a teenager I loved them LOL

There are a lot and lots and lots of scientific studies about attraction.

Women are more sensitive to chemical differences between men by smell and saliva.

http://www.livescience.com/69-sexy-h...scent-man.html

"Like mice, women preferred the scent of men whose immune systems were unlike their own. If a man's immune system was similar, a woman tended to describe his T-shirt as smelling like her father or brother."

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...g-6668095.html

"Endocrinologists have found that through kissing, women can sample a section of a potential partner's genome called the major histocompatibility complex (MHC). The MHC are codes for the immune system and women are attracted to the scent of men with a different MHC to themselves."


It has also been proven that in indigenous cultures men with lower voices have more children.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7013136.stm


There have also been studies about what attracts men more. The amount of sway in a woman's walk has actually been proven to be more of a factor in attraction than an hourglass figure. For instance a thinner woman who walks in a "sexy" way is rated as more attractive than a very well endowed woman who walks stiffly or "like a man."

I can't find that study easily because google brings back a lot of annoying "how to attract a man" garbage when I try to search for it. But here is a few articles on how a woman changes durring ovulation to attract men.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...mans-walk.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0921172836.htm


Men and woman aren't shallow, they are biologically wired to look for a good mate.

Men analize traits differently than women do!!!!!!!!!!!!


I find it extremely annoying when anyone assumes that everyone is exactly like they are and that everyone else is just lying.

If a thousand people are having an experience that you have never had, like being a woman, and they are telling you something about being a woman, and you decide you know better about it than they do, that is shockingly ignorant, egotistical, and short sighted.

I do not give a **** what you look like, but I do give a **** what you smell like.
I don't give a **** if that makes me shallow. You can call me shallow but don't call me a liar.

So sick of your threads lol.

Everyone of them exactly the same.

Men are more shallow. Sorry The Truth. Now lets move on from this topic?

I know a LOT of very bitchy men, who bitch with eachother

i dont think any of those are true at all

the majority of both men & women are attracted to someone's popularity then success and then looks. this mostly apply to the younger ones, people would look if someone has one of those if not all 3, like it or not this is true and can be seen easily everywhere, initially looks is the first factor, if their looks is not considered as the best then they would look at how popular they are with other people. It's one of those things where someone wants someone because everybody else likes them and they get their satisfaction from the fact that a popular person chose them out of many others who likes them. And its only a small minority that are attracted to others beyond the artificial things.
there is no such thing as most men go for personality and women go for looks or vise versa.

women love a good bod gunns n looks they will shag those guys but when it comes to settling down or having steady relashionship they will always go for the boring pot belled pigs everytime. safe is more attractive in the long run.
havin gunns etc just attracts the wrong women. for example girls only want me for my body isnt life great lol