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Benjamin 03-10-2012 12:48 PM

I may be the only one here, but as sad as this case is, I still would like to believe the main suspect is innocent until proven guilty. I've seen so many cases were people, as main suspects, have been arrested and been made to look guilty, then the police actually find the real perpetrator.

Niamh. 03-10-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5524146)
I may be the only one here, but as sad as this case is, I still would like to believe the main suspect is innocent until proven guilty. I've seen so many cases were people, as main suspects, have been arrested and been made to look guilty, then the police actually find the real perpetrator.

true enough Ben, you can't help but wonder why he's being held for so long though

Novo 03-10-2012 12:55 PM

Look at his face in that picture it has guilty written all over it

Benjamin 03-10-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5524151)
true enough Ben, you can't help but wonder why he's being held for so long though

True , but many suspects have been held for a while and had absolutely nothing to do with it. It just annoys me that some people are so fickle to instantly believe what the media tells them. He may or may not be guilty, but until he is proven guilty I'd like to think he is innocent.

Benjamin 03-10-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524164)
Look at his face in that picture it has guilty written all over it

Novo, I like you, but stop being a douchebag. The media are not going to print a nice, happy picture of him. They want him to look sinister.

Vicky. 03-10-2012 01:03 PM

If this bloke has nothing to do with it...he will still forever be associated with the case. I dont believe photos should be released until a successful conviction has been made.

Niamh. 03-10-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5524172)
True , but many suspects have been held for a while and had absolutely nothing to do with it. It just annoys me that some people are so fickle to instantly believe what the media tells them. He may or may not be guilty, but until he is proven guilty I'd like to think he is innocent.

Ah yeah I know, I mean I've never actually said Oh yeah he definitely did it but I do think that police must have some serious reason to think he's involved. It's only human nature to have an opinion on it or a feeling, though I do think they should have tried to keep his name out of the press until it was proven to have been him

Novo 03-10-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5524174)
Novo, I like you, but stop being a douchebag. The media are not going to print a nice, happy picture of him. They want him to look sinister.

That picture was took yesterday look at his eyes he's as guilty as **** anyone who can't see that by now is hopeless

Novo 03-10-2012 01:07 PM

It's not really a matter of finding the person that did it anymore they've already got him obviously and now they just want the information

Benjamin 03-10-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5524179)
If this bloke has nothing to do with it...he will still forever be associated with the case. I dont believe photos should be released until a successful conviction has been made.

Exactly! If he is guilty then great, but if he is innocent people will always be wary of him for no reason whatsoever.

And Novo, so because he looks guilty in that photo that is a reason to believe it? Sorry, but if anyone was arrested for something like this they would look as worn down and tired, you cannot expect anyone to look fresh and "innocent" in photos for this kind of case, be they guilty or innocent.

Vicky. 03-10-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5524193)

And Novo, so because he looks guilty in that photo that is a reason to believe it? Sorry, but if anyone was arrested for something like this they would look as worn down and tired, you cannot expect anyone to look fresh and "innocent" in photos for this kind of case, be they guilty or innocent.

If we go on how guilty people look in photos, almost everyone who has a passport is a convict and shouldnt be allowed to travel. Seriously...I have yet to see a decent passport photo and everyone seems to look dodgy as hell on them.

A little offtopic though.

If he has smiled or something on the photo people would say its a sinister smile, because hes been found guilty by media already anyway

Novo 03-10-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5524193)
Exactly! If he is guilty then great, but if he is innocent people will always be wary of him for no reason whatsoever.

And Novo, so because he looks guilty in that photo that is a reason to believe it? Sorry, but if anyone was arrested for something like this they would look as worn down and tired, you cannot expect anyone to look fresh and "innocent" in photos for this kind of case, be they guilty or innocent.

Yeah gives me a very good reason to believe it because IMO that is one of the most guiltiest faces you are likely to see.. not just that though everything else adds up perfectly to be him, The girl getting in the drivers side and he has a left hand drive Land Rover Discovery which are really rare over here.. the description of the car was also pretty much spot on before pictures were released of it, the guy has fathered 6 children to 3/4 different woman and been arrested for keeping chickens in his home for some strange reason, he was also wearing two pairs of pants and completely covered in Camouflaged gear when they found him.. very weird if you ask me

arista 03-10-2012 01:21 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...05_306x423.jpg

The Picture that Novo says he can read?

Novo 03-10-2012 01:22 PM

Think i can see the words Guilty written on his forehead there

Niamh. 03-10-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524208)
Yeah gives me a very good reason to believe it because IMO that is one of the most guiltiest faces you are likely to see.. not just that though everything else adds up perfectly to be him, The girl getting in the drivers side and he has a left hand drive Land Rover Discovery which are really rare over here.. the description of the car was also pretty much spot on before pictures were released of it, the guy has fathered 6 children to 3/4 different woman and been arrested for keeping chickens in his home for some strange reason, he was also wearing two pairs of pants and completely covered in Camouflaged gear when they found him.. very weird if you ask me

I thought they said she was taken in a van though

arista 03-10-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524213)
Think i can see the words Guilty written on his forehead there


Its up to the Police
he is refusing to talk , though.


A Army man
so he can stay like that

Novo 03-10-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5524215)
I thought they said she was taken in a van though

It does look like a van at the back and someone described it as being big at the back and small at the front which is true

Niamh. 03-10-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524217)
It does look like a van at the back and someone described it as being big at the back and small at the front which is true

ah right Ok. How long was she missing before they picked this guy up? For the parents sake I hope it is this guy, atleast they have a chance of finding her if they have the guy that took her

Vicky. 03-10-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524208)
Yeah gives me a very good reason to believe it because IMO that is one of the most guiltiest faces you are likely to see.. not just that though everything else adds up perfectly to be him, The girl getting in the drivers side and he has a left hand drive Land Rover Discovery which are really rare over here.. the description of the car was also pretty much spot on before pictures were released of it, the guy has fathered 6 children to 3/4 different woman and been arrested for keeping chickens in his home for some strange reason, he was also wearing two pairs of pants and completely covered in Camouflaged gear when they found him.. very weird if you ask me

I know this is a serious thread and all. But this made me giggle a bit. Why do you think chickens are relevant to this case? :laugh:

The two pairs of pants thing is quite strange though, definitely agree with that.

Novo 03-10-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5524221)
I know this is a serious thread and all. But this made me giggle a bit. Why do you think chickens are relevant to this case? :laugh:

The two pairs of pants thing is quite strange though, definitely agree with that.

What kind of sane person would keep Chickens in the house

arista 03-10-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5524215)
I thought they said she was taken in a van though


Must be the kids viewed that Land Rover like a Van?


Police need to say that, though

Novo 03-10-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5524224)
Must be the kids viewed that Land rover like a Van?


Police need to say that, though

Yeah and that as well, Kids are more likely to describe a Land Rover like a Van then like a Car

Novo 03-10-2012 01:30 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...idnapping.html

April Jones: Suspect Mark Bridger 'gave her a ride in his Land Rover two days before kidnapping'

Mark Bridger, the man being held on suspicion of kidnapping April Jones, gave the five-year-old a ride in his Land Rover two days before she was abducted, it has been claimed.

April was a regular playmate of two of Mr Bridger's children who had been with her just hours before she was taken from near her home in Machynlleth, north Wales.
Mr Bridger, 46, had split from their mother Elaine, but often returned to the Brynygog estate in Machynlleth to visit them and was a friend of the Jones family.
Neighbour Amy Fenner, 21, said: "It's not the first time they have been in his vehicle. They had got into the van two days before the abduction."

arista 03-10-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524223)
What kind of sane person would keep Chickens in the house


A Army bloke with less cash.

Kate! 03-10-2012 01:36 PM

the fact he's refusing to talk kind of seals the deal for me, why would he if there is nothing to hide. He does have very cold eyes in that photograph, they do say the eyes are the key to the soul. :eek:

It is terrible though when and if miscarriages of justice occur, or someone is falsely suspected of something so bad, like in the Chris Jeffries case, the press should have to meet tighter restrictions until cases like this are proven really. My gut instinct in this instance is he's as guilty as sin, but time will tell. I think we'll know more pretty soon.

God bless the little April :( desperately sad.

Benjamin 03-10-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524208)
Yeah gives me a very good reason to believe it because IMO that is one of the most guiltiest faces you are likely to see.. not just that though everything else adds up perfectly to be him, The girl getting in the drivers side and he has a left hand drive Land Rover Discovery which are really rare over here.. the description of the car was also pretty much spot on before pictures were released of it, the guy has fathered 6 children to 3/4 different woman and been arrested for keeping chickens in his home for some strange reason, he was also wearing two pairs of pants and completely covered in Camouflaged gear when they found him.. very weird if you ask me


Carry on being spoon fed by the media. If he is guilty them like I have said, great, they have their guy, however if he isn't the media have just ruined his life.

Novo 03-10-2012 01:41 PM

http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/s...7&postcount=98

You only have to look at my track record in declaring whether people are Innocent or Guilty and you'll see that i have this case nailed as well

Novo 03-10-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5524236)
Carry on being spoon fed by the media. If he is guilty them like I have said, great, they have their guy, however if he isn't the media have just ruined his life.

You need to see the difference between being spoon fed and having Common Sense

Benjamin 03-10-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524240)
You need to see the difference between being spoon fed and having Common Sense

Ever heard the saying common sense isn't so common? Those that declare they have it, are those that don't.

The media have spun a story to suit their needs to sell a paper. It's happened many times before and not everytime is the person guilty. I stand by my stance innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

arista 03-10-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate* (Post 5524235)
the fact he's refusing to talk kind of seals the deal for me, why would he if there is nothing to hide. He does have very cold eyes in that photograph, they do say the eyes are the key to the soul. :eek:

It is terrible though when and if miscarriages of justice occur, or someone is falsely suspected of something so bad, like in the Chris Jeffries case, the press should have to meet tighter restrictions until cases like this are proven really. My gut instinct in this instance is he's as guilty as sin, but time will tell. I think we'll know more pretty soon.

God bless the little April :( desperately sad.


The Army can do that
once you have left.



Its Up to the police to Find out more

Novo 03-10-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5524244)
Ever heard the saying common sense isn't so common? ;)

No you must have made that one up now Turtle

Marc 03-10-2012 01:52 PM

I don't agree with the media letting out his name, they don't even know that he's done it yet

Benjamin 03-10-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524248)
No you must have made that one up now Turtle

I wish I could claim that as my own, but I cannot.

Novo 03-10-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5524244)
Ever heard the saying common sense isn't so common? Those that declare they have it, are those that don't.

The media have spun a story to suit their needs to sell a paper. It's happened many times before and not everytime is the person guilty. I stand by my stance innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

They have over hyped it yes your right but the point remains everything so far all the evidence etc says this guy is guilty and he isn't exactly helping himself at the minute

Benjamin 03-10-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 5524255)
They have over hyped it yes your right but the point remains everything so far says this guy is guilty and he isn't exactly helping himself at the minute

I'm not saying he isn't guilty, but the media can twist things to suit their need, they have done it before and will do it again. This man may be guilty but until a court of law proves this, he is innocent to me.

Novo 03-10-2012 01:59 PM

Well he's Guilty to me as there is to much that links him to it so until he is released without charge then he's not Innocent and we can't always blame the Media they are just doing a job and some do it better then others obviously

Vicky. 03-10-2012 02:08 PM

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"It was wet and cold and the other girl told April not to get into it. But April said: ‘It’s all right, I know them’.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...begged-1357238

I'll be honest I havent really been following this case much til now, as I dont tend to read the media witch hunts. But after reading up a bit on it, this struck me as a bit odd.

Suze 03-10-2012 02:49 PM

The fact the bloke isn't talking, seems quite suss to me. I am not saying I agree with the media reporting, they delve far too much into lives and cause a lot of unnecessary heartache in a lot of cases, and their bile can ruin many a life, as things printed are there no matter what and can't be undone once the damage is done. But can't help thinking that Nova could be right on this one, there are too many things don't add up that point this bloke's way. If little April is still alive, then him refusing to talk could prolong that fact that very soon she might not be. I so hope that she is alive, but can't help thinking that with each passing hour it is less likely now :(

Kate! 03-10-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Suze (Post 5524308)
The fact the bloke isn't talking, seems quite suss to me. I am not saying I agree with the media reporting, they delve far too much into lives and cause a lot of unnecessary heartache in a lot of cases, and their bile can ruin many a life, as things printed are there no matter what and can't be undone once the damage is done. But can't help thinking that Nova could be right on this one, there are too many things don't add up that point this bloke's way. If little April is still alive, then him refusing to talk could prolong that fact that very soon she might not be. I so hope that she is alive, but can't help thinking that with each passing hour it is less likely now :(

[2] good post Suze, pretty much my way of thinking too, the Media are a disgrace with some of the things they do, they frequently go way to far and should be pulled into line. The fact he is refusing to talk seems very suspicious, and as I say my gut instinct says guilty, felt the same in the Ian Huntley case, he reeked of guilt.

arista 03-10-2012 03:02 PM

"Shocked residents on the Mid Wales estate where the girl was snatched told how their quiet community has been shattered by the abduction."

The Police are working to find her
if she is not burried, of course.


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