I think all talk of rigging votes and fixes are nonsense, no matter who wins, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

You can influence voting without rigging or fixing.

It can, and I believe has, been done on a more subtle level.

Were you influenced?

Dunno. Might have been, on some level! :p;)

Hi Mock, sorry to disagree but Emma said we had 11 minutes after Gina came out to vote, I was actually voting for at least 7 minutes up the point where she said the lines had closed and then later went on to announce who had won.

shut up, there was a whole hour to vote when under the dome was on!!!!!!!!
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And why would there be record lows when the fans favourite on facebook, twitter and voting won!! just dont make sence..jeeez!!!


GET OVER IT, THE RIGHT MAN WON.

We couldn't vote while the Dome was on, the voting lines closed before it started. Once the 2nd part began we were straight into the announcement of who won virtually.

oh well, same for both housemates i suppose so no real big issue to deal with.

For sleeping ?

Ahahahaha that's a new one.




No


It's for beating Dexter to the number 1 spot.

There's nothing else that I can say because that's the only thing that he did

Apart from Winning


:spin:

He obviously did enough to get more voted than Dexter.....that's the long and short of it. More people voted for Sam.

I agree the series will be remembered more for Dexter and Gina and the winner is irrelevant after the final really....its more about who get the best management and who stays in the public eye. I'm sure Dexter will do well.

If Dexter was the rightful winner, Emma would have said that he won when she announced the winner, but she didn't... you know why? Because the majority of the voters saw what a bitch Gina was and saw what a massive knobhead Dexter was.

Sam won, deal with it.

So you accept he slept his way to the final and won.

Thanks for the confirmation. :D

Yes, I supported him because of my unbridled passion for beds...

:hugesmile:

I do find it funny that people who admire Dexter for "playing the game, because it's a gameshow" just can't admit the obvious truth: Sam played a better, more clever game. He flew under the radar until the last week and then did just enough to be noticed and crowned winner.

Was it as entertaining a game to watch as Dexter or Gina's? No... but... The aim of the game is to win, not to entertain, and he played it perfectly. Both Dex and Gina overplayed their hands early and had run out of steam by the end... They were still doing their best but lets face it, Gina peaked in the safehouse and Dexter peaked in the week before Callum left. they both limped to the finish line after Callum and Hazel were out.

In all seriousness, compare Dexters game to Aaron, who somehow kept his momentum going right until the last day. Dexters gameplan is complex, but amateurish in comparison. Sam on the other hand went for a simple classic... the "craig from big brother 1", after all. Stay simple, stay quite, have a his moment of standing up to the "nasty nick". Done, dusted, £100,000.

God, are people still banging on about Dexter being the rightful winner? What is it that some people see in Dexter? All I see is a comical, sleazy, awkward, embarrassing fantasist who wouldn't last five minutes in the PR world. Honestly... if people think Dexter is really intelligent and a deep thinker, they're going to crap their pants when they mean someone really intelligent.

Sam wasn't the most sparkling housemate ever, but considering the final five, he was by far the best of the bunch.

That's what I sort of liked about him :joker:. Sort of like a clown. I didn't want him to win, though, he was not a deserving winner. He tried to play a game but, ultimately, it was a failed game so why should he win? 2nd place was just about right for Dexter... sums up all of his game plans nicely: "Almost there, but not quite". Couldn't get people to believe or follow him, didn't have the testicular fortitude to take down Callum properly, couldn't quite get the girl in his fauxmance...

... and he introduced the line "I'm not gonna lie..." which was taken up by every bloody housemate and drove me i n s a n e !

I do get what you mean, he was quite entertaining to watch, which I suppose is a throwback to the Victorian's interest in freak shows.

I think that actually sums up this whole year quite well! It was basically one big carnival. The only "normal people" were Sam, Sophie, Hazel, Charlie and Jackie, and (unfortunately) Daley... and none of those were particularly good people. The rest were a selection of oddities picked out to be oggled at like weird little critters in a zoo.

Well they might be oddities to you, but I like to call it having a bit of character and not being generic, bland, looking the same that you see alot of nowadays.

Your right in calling it character but they were hardly admirable traits.


I honestly don't think I could turn my back to any of them (barring maybe Sam) without expecting a knife to be stuck in there at the first opportunity.


Dan has already got the ball rolling with his now ex bf.

There were all in competition with each other in the house so that is the name of the game really. Dan out of all of them is under the biggest pressure to succeed, he gave up a job alot of people would give their eye teeth for to be a celebrity. Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds out of the house. It looks like doing a calender has gone to his head

There are so many interesting people in the world, I just don't understand why they give us a houseful if fantasists and misfits. You can be entertaining and funny and beautiful and intelligent. I know people like that in real life... why can't BB find a houseful of them? I'd also like a cross-section of ages in there. When they put an older housemate in they're usually a pain in the arse, and that's not my experience of older people generally. I think they should put you and I in charge of housemate selection TS. We could only do a better job.

I know it's hilarious. He wouldn't last 5 seconds in this industry.... trust me!

He thinks spending almost 70 days in the BB house is tough... LOL...He'll be eaten up, spat out and trodden on in the time it takes him to say "I'm not gonna lie".

They didn't just become backstabbers and selfish when they got on that show. It takes a certain character for the most part to be on a program like that.

Ah, is that your line? I know a couple of people who work in PR and a friend has her own small agency and they're all just about as different from Dexter as anyone could be. They're smart, driven, astute and they don't labour to find the right word. He's just ridiculous.

pinched from the thread i just made.,...



Lets see.

week one or two..sallie, dexter you ssssssnake...dexter sits and says nothing.

week 3or 4 dexter attempts to pull hazel(smirk)..hazel puts him down with ease, calling him a knob or something...dexter says nothing...

inbetween this sophie calls him a prick or something like that telling him she hated him..dexter says nothing in return...



dexter goes into safe house and promises to do so much when he comes out the safe house after watching the other housemates....he comes out and decides instead to get into the most ridiculous love triangle of all time...and says nothing apart from hazel being nominated more times than she was..

dan pulls him up on it....dexter says nothing.

callum and dexter bounce off eachother and argue...dexter has a go back, perhaps because callum was not liked in the house..or am i too cccccccccccynical!!!!!!

sam pulls dexter up 4 times about differing things...dexter says, you are entitled to your opinion sam, or"whatever sam"


last 2 weeks, dexter spends his evenings in the most tedious of discussions going round and round in circles with charley

DEXTER, champion of the silent seethe, or the see through gameplan..

And this is supposed to be in some peoples eyes one, if not thee best ever bb housemate.

get a flamin grip..he was hopeless and coasted through on the coat tails of gina!!

Only a fool would argue against this Patrick. :thumbs:

Hey Bob...Love your new avatar!...are you a fan?

Well bugger me, here is me thinking that second place isn't a win.[/QUOTE]

But Dexter was the winner of the "non-advantage-giving-disability-section" though Sanpvt, wasn't he! :cheer:

Aye!...but only in the short term though Patrick....nobody will remember "who was that guy who won in Ginxster's year" in a couple of series time!...but we'll all remember the King and Queen of BB14 for a long time!...so, apart from the £100,000.... who's the real winners? :thumbs:

You missed the whole point of the show.

It was only the theme that was supposed to be 'Secret & Lies' and not the actual housemates.


Dexter will have nothing but his current 5 minutes of fame and will fall into obscurity very quickly.

His book that he plans to write about his experience, will be used to prop up storeroom doors at amazon.

He certainly was and if BB BBBOTS and Emma and the bad edits had not painted him in such a bad light some of the people who did not see beyond that would have seem that too

He also said he was giving the money to motor neurone cos his step father had it it was in the twist game but of course not shown on show and not really mentioned

So Sam could play vote for the winner who is giving a bit to charity - not a good reason it should always who entertained and Dex did that every single day against all the odds without losing his temper and dignified in his final interview unlike petulant Twinnies and Sam

Dex always will be my winner and King of BB2013

When BB14 is remembered, it will be Dexter and Gina who will be talked about. :)

Sam Who? ;)

This.

I agree Livia, Dexter didnt win end of.

He didn't actually win the money but he is a winner in many people's eyes.

End of. :p;)

But he didn't win the show. You can pretend he won the show and edit the last section out of the final on your skybox so it looks like Dexter won if you want but when it says BB14 winner it's Sam that has his name beside it not anybody else...

It seems to help them block out the pain of losing bless their little cotton socks.
It doesnt change the fact Sam won but if it helps them deal with their huge defeat so be it.
This thread brings a big smile to my face every time i open it.
A smile just like this one infact.

http://images.topix.com/gallery/up-H7507Q9056MJBPVG.jpg

Winning £100k purely because of a sympathy vote is nothing to be proud of.

Sam was a piss poor housemate. Even the Twins or Charlie winning would have been a better result.

He got the girl. At least he won something. His luck is in tonight. ;)