[QUOTE=Jarvio;6340031]Im not looking for compassion here but when i said i lead i normal life what i meant was that i have been treated in a normal manner all my life. The diagnosis was only made in the last year and this was due to an on going issue with "depression" when leaving the British Army. What as treated by many Army medical practitioners and civilian GP's as "depression" was in actual fact underlying Autism. My diagnostic process has been on going since april 2007 and its only in the last 6 months that they have confirmed what i knew in the back of my mind all of my life but thought was normal and how other people were.....They treated each symptom i had individually (anger,manic depression,anxiety,repetitive intrusive thoughts)

You said here about """" a) work carefully and slowly, which isn't good enough because the employer wants fast workers, or b) work faster and make no end of mistakes. The faster I work the more mistakes I make. """"

This is exactly the same as my own experiences. I tend not to work slowly as i feel this will be detrimental to how people will perceive me and will work at a pace that i think is acceptable to them. this obviously causes mistakes and slip ups which in turn causes your boss/peer to then "come down on you" which in turn AGAIN causes you to make a pre judgement about them and become very angry and annoyed with this persons lack of understanding when you feel you have tried so hard. I suspect normal people go through exactly this all the time but the effect on there psyche from the criticism for failure doesn't get taken in the same way.

As an example without going into to much detail the last time i had "depression" (which of course it wasnt) was when i was working for a team leader for a small company. I held a team meeting and felt i was undermind by a director of this company who came into the meeting and corrected my judgement on a matter i felt i was correct in. Within 2 weeks i had a depressive episode combined with anger which lead to me consuming myself over this tiny issue and it lead to me going sick and eventually leaving the job.......Over on tiny instance....

The latter is what causes the most issues in work. If you have the condition you will look at even the smallest criticism or even work banter as a direct assault on you. This will consume you and we will perceive there is no understanding and the job will fail.

The only reason i obtained a recent diagnosis was because this cyclic breakdown had happened so much that it was directly effecting how my life panned out and started to becoming the prominent issue.

If you are finding this happening to you all the time get help, Inform Occ Health in a working environment and also your GP/Psychiatric doctor. they will start to help to cater more towards your condition. If you dont have a diagnosis and you are self diagnosed get it confirmed.... it will help ten fold in the long term...:blush::hugesmile::blush:

[QUOTE=Jarvio;6339980]Is that part of AS? I recognise that in myself as part of my OCD...

[QUOTE=courses;6340054]Well it can probably be interlinked I suspect? I was told that many people with ASD are very obsessional.

Thank You
Dr.Conzors

[QUOTE=qwerty8883;6340052]Bolded part is so true.

And yes, I have an official diagnosis from a professional. So hopefully it will help somewhat...

Then we're clearly in the same boat, so I'm not sure what the to-ing and fro-ing is here between your posts and mine?

[QUOTE=Jarvio;6340056]Do you mean obsessions with certain things? i.e. my cousin knows everything there is to know about planes and it's all he talks about. But that doesn't account for the compulsion side of it like checking the door 20 times. Hmm. I'd always thought OCD was very separate to AS because of that.

[QUOTE=qwerty8883;6339925]I understand all of this possibly more than you realise, since my son experiences virtually all that you mention. I was just pointing out that it's possible for all of us to experience severe anxiety and stress, and for many of us to try and 'become' someone we're not by creating different personalities within ourselves - not entirely limited to Asperger's people.

[QUOTE=courses;6340071]I am certain the two can be interlinked, and often are.

I'm getting on in years and live with someone who's son has aspergers. She thinks I may have it because i say some innapropriate things..i told her to **** off.

[QUOTE=Blue Cadillac;6340073]Oh really I didn't know that. Explains a lot!

Haha!

[QUOTE=Blue Cadillac;6340073]Yep, that's what the doctor who diagnosed me said too.

Many conditions are often interlinked.
This is kind of what I'm saying - ASDs are very broad, and the symptoms are not the same for everyone.

Another characteristic of myself that I forgot to mention is that I need everything to be set/in a routine, and if there's any change it will freak me out. Short-notice plans stress me no end, and things cannot be left unresolved in my mind or I can't function until they are.

[QUOTE=Jarvio;6340088]sarcasm can be a bugger as well..you'll get round it pal, you come across so well on here..hats of to you for being so open with us..you're a good lad.

[QUOTE=parmnion;6340094]Thanks that means a lot :)

Sarcasm depends with me really - sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't. I guess it depends how obvious it is

Exactly my point. Being emo and having slight phases of depression does not mean your aspergic and nor does being shy or reclusive mean you have aspergers.

It's more to do with having a TALENT. people with aspergers are often GIFTED people.. its got f-all to do with it only being about social behaviours !!!!!!!!

christ almighty, if your feeling anti-social take some xanax and stay OUT of the aspergic spectrum you try hard to be in, because those who really have it stand less of a chance of recieving help!

No, its logical. Being in a boy band like 5ive doesn't exactly tick the 'I would rather read a quantum physics book than go to a party" check box on the Autism test.

I think, out of the 2, I'd rather go to a party. Sure, there'd be social difficulties, but that's what I'd rather do. On top of this I'm a musician who has performed live (although it IS nerve-racking as hell for me).

So by your logic this means I don't have aspergers then? (even though I have a diagnosis in writing, confirmed by a professional).

Not everyone who has it are the same. Not everyone will tick the same boxes.

[QUOTE=Jarvio;6340046]Hi jarvio, I'm certain you will learn to deal with yourself as time goes on, my Father has Aspergers and is a very very successful man in life and especially in his career, I have some aspects of the condition which I have learned to love about myself so don't worry too much , just try and accept who you are , know who you are and why and if you can try and adapt to suit social situations, for example I eat the same thing every day, it doesn't change , however I worked out a meal I am happy eating if I go to a restaurant , so if I'm invited out I call the restaurant and ask if they can help me with that and they always can. You will work out strategies so you can deal with life I promise.

Read my post it might help.

Thanks, it's appreciated

:D

You have to learn to know your mind watch how it works and what you think you will learn that it is a machine you are at the helm of , so it should not rule you because without you it doesn't exist.

Hang on you lost me, if you separate your mind from you and you are guiding your mind who is guiding you?

Well we are more than just what our mind tells us we are , because it limits us through beliefs and past experiences, what you think can make you feel a way , thoughts create emotions, however if you are able to see how your mind works and the way thoughts make you feel you realise that you need to be in control of it rather than letting it run away with itself .I dont like wearing odd socks it used to make me anxious but I challenged the thought one day and wore odd socks I didn't like it much however nothing bad happened and I could deal with it , proving to myself my mind sometimes needs expanding and that what it makes you feel isn't always right.

That's all well and good to challenge an irrational anxiety relating to personal idiosyncrasies. I don't however see how they can be held up against an Autistic spectrum disorder.
As in your case you could recognise the irrationality of your thought process, someone with Aspergers wouldn't necessarily identify a social faux pas if they encountered it.

Well it's how I help myself and it works for me, my father is a sufferer and is one of the most confident people you could ever meet, mainly because he has no care or thought for anyone but himself , Aspergers has made him successful because his lack of empathy has made him ruthless in business and in his career , so it's not always social awkwardness.

I will answer a bit of what he/she said,
people can get disability living allowance, for having as, or being on the autism spectrum and in some severe cases they will get a car.

but its not a simple process to get put on the spectrum!.

a couple won the lottery but refused to give up their free mobility car!, so its swings and roundabout's.

In order to qualify for a mobility car through the now defunct DLA, you had to have been receiving the high rate of the mobility component. I'm far from an expert on Autism, but I would imagine very few people with the condition would meet this criteria.

that's true, but also mobility cars are not income based so you can have lottery winners still entitled to a free car.

No you cant. If you have over a certain amount in your bank. You are breaking the law if you are claiming DLA.

no, in the lottery winners case it was not income based, this story made the national papers,

I take that back, apparently i'm wrong about savings. I was sure my letters have always stated that if you have over a certain amount you should declare it, but apparently i'm wrong,.

yes, I think its one of the only benefits not to have a saving's clause with it.

Yeah Sherriff we deal with alot of DLA claims in the school I work in so as CH says you have qualify for the higher DLA amount which would then make you eligible for a car. It is not means tested. It was the suggestion that people actually decided to claim their children were autistic to get a free car that annoyed me. Trust me no right minded loving parent would want their child to be on the level of the autistic spectrum that entitles you to a free car.

I know, having a child or young adult needing that level of care, it makes you think about what those parents are going thru.

my daughter has autism but was not diagnosed until she was sixteen so I know what im talking about when it comes to this subject:dance:

Oh, apologies, I forgot that you had to read a quantum physics book and never go to parties to be diagnosed with any form of Autism.

It's not like everyone is different is it. :rolleyes: