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who cares? oh yea, they are european and white, so we care. Europe doesn't really care though, just appeasement to the US, but they still want their Russian gas.

This isn't a mystery, this is Russia trying to control their gas pipelines. If their mercenary thugs have to shoot down a civilian aircraft, so what? they have pipelines to defend. Emperor Putin has defended his people at great expense, pity the Emperor for having to make such tragic decisions for his glorious people's interests. Putin is such a good man to his own people, always protecting their own interests.

All hail the Emperor.

The conspiracy theorists has started

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No surprise they have mentioned how this happened as Israel were making a land offensive against the Palestinians

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[The conspiracy theorists has started]


yes they always do


Next.

Hi Alex
nice to have you back

..both black boxes have 'disappeared' so the conspiracies will continue and grow...

Welcome back Alex :love:

I'm guessing they were the only things that could prove the plane was shot down.

No they have not


Its just there are 2 sides
and they are not going to work as one.

..yeah, they will indicate what happened ...

..ahh, that's what it said on the TV news this morning...hmmm, I can't remember which channel it was on...BBC1 I think....

I dn;'t think the black boxes would show the plane was shot down. The black boxes just show the statistics of the plane's operating systems. how would the black boxes show it was hit by a missile?

The best proof of what happened to that plane is from US satellites that monitor the whole planet. Thats what Edward Snowden claims right? that the US can see and know everything? So do you believe Snowden or not? or do you only believe him when it suits you?

Honestly the US is in the best position to know what happened.

We couldn't tell what happened to the other malaysian airline because it was over an ocean, but because this was an explosion over a war zone, it makes sense that US satellites were monitoring the area.

Qantas has not been flying over that zone
as they were aware of the Danger from the War,


Reported on Radio5

and thanks for the welcome backs guys ;)

If the planes box records the operating systems were all functioning perfectly normally then obliterates around it in mid air, then it's not unusual to suspect there was an explosion.
The debris from the fuselage would show if the plane was damaged from the inside out or the outside in?

Conpspiracy loons will be all over this.New world order,WW3 yada yada yada....They don't miss a trick.

I don't think it's even that complicated, just USA IS EVIL!!! USA IS TO BLAME!!!! USA IS CONTROLLING THE WORLD!!!


basically.

[Two cabin crew refused to fly on doomed
plane over war zone safety fears: Senior pilots
and cabin crew flagged concerns about flight path weeks before tragedy]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz380akrHec


Some knew this was going to happen soon

Well some seemed to find it suspicious this plane was shot down when Israel started their ground offensive and have connected these two events, as you can see from the earlier link :shocked:

yes, i realize some simple minded IDIOTS think it's crazy that actually 2 wars can be going on at the same time in this gigantic world. because to them everything is just happening on a computer screen. The world is much bigger and more complex than the simple minded NECKBEARDS on the internet realize. That is not shocking.

It's sad how easily influenced most people are. That's why I still trust the government over the ****ing MORONS i encounter all the time on the internet. I wouldn't even trust most people online to roll down the windows when they leave their dog in the car, so why the **** would i trust them with information? Most people are ****ing idiots. the older i get, the more i realize how stupid people are.

Most people are are ****ing stupid. Anyone that is still defending Putin, is a ****ing idiot. seriously. (hate me, I'm american)

if i have to trust Anonymous or the US government? i trust the US government.

The Washington Posts take on conspiracy theories

that gave me a good laugh. people really need to get a ****ing grip. i guess if i watched RT, and spent my time on conspiracy websites all day i would believe some that **** too.

honestly there are some people on this forum that still believe in the 9/11 conspiracies.

That being said, i'm not being too harsh or judgmental, i do think there are some very credible UFO cases. :) (seriously, i do think there are some credible ones)

Hi, Alex.

LOL, those conspiracy theorists are nutty.

"World power shot the plane down to start World War III."


Yes Sticks
make a great Movie.

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One of the black boxes
under Pro Russian control
they will only hand over to the proper international team
not the Ukraine group.

Russian leader Vladimir Putin has finally agreed to speak to David Cameron tonight - three days after 10 Britons were killed by Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine.
Mr Cameron is expected to urge Mr Putin to grant international investigators access to the crash site immediately, following a joint ultimatum by Britain, France and Germany this afternoon.
The leaders of Europe's three most powerful countries, who spoke on the phone this morning, said they were 'ready' to increase economic pressure on Russia if it did not deliver access by Tuesday.
It came after the Prime Minister attacked European leaders for being too soft on Mr Putin. Mr Cameron accused the EU showing a lack of 'resolve' in refusing to face up to Russia and suggested the world was now paying the price. Mr Cameron also likened the crisis to Europe's appeasement of Hitler in the 1930s.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ig-Merkel.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...oxes-over.html

Good job there were no Americans on the plane as given historical precedent the ICBM's would be flying

There was 1 American.

There's no need for conspiracies - ultimately this was a tragic accident, caused by lack of expertise with the equipment, lack of adequate flight tracking systems and so forth, and the fact that a commercial airline flew through a warzone where planes had been shot down in the last few days

The sooner hands are held up to admit this is a terrible error of judgement, the sooner that tensions can be eased

You forgot to mention the part about pro-russian separatists trying to take more Ukraine land by the most violent means possible...

Not really relevant that is it, shooting down a civilian airline affiliated to nobody in the conflict would hardly help their cause in that if so

I'm pretty sure it's very relevant because this wouldn''t have happened if it wasn't for them and their ****ed up agenda...I'm pretty sure if it weren't for the Russian militias in the area everyone on that flight would have landed safely....

so yea, it's a pretty important point to mention dude.

Dont be so certain Russia is the cause of this, there is more to this story than meets the eye.

Besides until the facts and gathered and investigations are complete no one should be taking sides in a political slanging match.

We should have more respect for the victims and their families at this sad time.




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What sickened me almost as much as the act of shooting down a civilian plane and then allowing the bodies to lay where they fell for days, was the pictures of the empty camera cases, wallets and purses where the "militia" had robbed the people they'd just killed.

Yes ............it's a sad fact that looting has been widespread, as the debris from this plane covers a very large area.

Not reported much in media but this ghoulish behaviour has been spotted since the day of the crash.




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I am surprised that the rebels did not play their trump card, they could have held on to the bodies and the flight data recorders until the foreign governments persuaded Kiev to capitulate to the rebels and allow them everything they want, so they can join Mother Russia, and to quash any ideas of sanctions against Mother Russia.

I think the "oh ****, what have we done" response overrode any such scheming, they didn't have time to be clever, these aren't generally speaking calculating, trained professionals who are fighting this civil war, it's every day people doing the dirty work. Freedom fighters, if you will. Sad stuff.

"Freedom Fighters" gives them an air of romance that reality denies them.

My guess is that Mother Russia has a very firm hand on their tiller.

Yes but Putin never told them to do this.

No one has ever claimed that he specifically told them to shoot down this specific airliner. No one is saying that.

That doesn't mean that he doesn't have plenty of responsibility for this situation though.

Well i think it has alot to do with Russia since it is a high probability that the Russian military supplied and trained these "seperatists" to use these mobile S.A.M sites.