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Marsh. 19-07-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7071280)
Another thing I would add... Let's say someone came into the house in BB1 and exposed Nasty Nick for what he was, a total sham. Would Chris have defended Nasty Nick? Would he have spoken about the unfairness of it all?

Why do people think Danielle was above and beyond being exposed for what she was? She pretended to be something she wasn't to the very people she was close to. That's not a good person, and it's something that was worth them hearing.

:joker: Entirely different. Nick used emotional blackmail, lying about having a wife who died etc and then also breaking the rules of the game regarding discussing nominations.

Chris and Danielle never made any such sick lies on such an awful level and neither broke the rules of the BB game.

Two completely different scenarios.

anniemay 19-07-2014 03:07 PM

Chris is the most genuine HM there
 
I love Chris. He makes some very shrewd observations in the Diary Room, which are often the most entertaining footage on BB. He is a funny Guy, have a look at some of his videos on youtube e.g. http://goo.gl/oM41MI

#bbchris @CHRISTOWINBBUK Go team Chris!

Marsh. 19-07-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7072020)
He slagged them all off for being fake whilst in the diary room before going back and getting along with all of them himself.

You do realise why it is called the "DIARY" room, right? It is supposed to be the place they are asked about their fellow housemates and are completely honest.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7072626)
You do realise why it is called the "DIARY" room, right? It is supposed to be the place they are asked about their fellow housemates and are completely honest.

He looks like he relishes laying into them to me. You don't have to do that.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7072198)
Chris wasn't 'wrong' about Danielle, what he said was he judged her as the Danielle he knew in the house which is a great way of looking at things instead of being ate up with curiosity about the outside world and what if's when there is nothing any of them can do/find out about it whilst in the house anyway.

And what he knew about Danielle was that she was on a show about web cam girls and that the new housemates had seen her do topless modeling shoots.

Seems to me he just wanted to put his fingers in his ears and pretend this has nothing to do with anything, when it is essential to understanding who the real Danielle was.

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Of all the people to accuse of being insincere I would never think of Chris to be one of them.
I don't know why. His speech a couple of weeks ago when he poured his heart out to save himself from eviction was very strange in my opinion, and he does make some very cutting remarks about people in the diary room. He spoke about how false the party atmosphere was, but he's hardly an honest up front person himself.

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Hmmm some could think you are trying for a character assassination on him because he is competition for other housemates. :smug:
All the housemates should be put under scrutiny. But heavy is the head that wears the crown.

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Chris is old school BB IMO, a breath of fresh air between the fame hungry, nasty, miserable wannabes, that's why people like him.
He'd have fit in with Cameron on BB4 imo.

Marsh. 19-07-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7072633)
He looks like he relishes laying into them to me. You don't have to do that.

Everyone relishes being sat in that chair and having their say with no interruptions.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7072703)
Everyone relishes being sat in that chair and having their say with no interruptions.

See, I just don't get the sense that the other Christopher does relish making cutting remarks.

Marsh. 19-07-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7072712)
See, I just don't get the sense that the other Christopher does relish making cutting remarks.

No, but he relishes being in the diary room when it is his time to sit there and have his say and guaranteed to be listened to by BB and answer questions. They all do.

It's why they all flee to the diary room during times of stress or after a particular falling out/argument because it's somewhere they can go to get their thoughts out properly, be listened to, not shouted over and have someone pay attention and ask them what they think.
It's all about them and their opinions when they're in the diary room.

They all love it.

Josy 19-07-2014 05:01 PM

Everyone of them relish being in the DR and saying what they really think

Yaki da 19-07-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7073123)
Everyone of them relish being in the DR and saying what they really think

I'll use the example of someone like Christopher who I think is a genuinely nice guy who doesn't say anything too unfair about anyone, at any time.

Marsh. 19-07-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7073146)
I'll use the example of someone like Christopher who I think is a genuinely nice guy who doesn't say anything too unfair about anyone, at any time.

Of course you think that..... you like him.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7073115)
No, but he relishes being in the diary room when it is his time to sit there and have his say and guaranteed to be listened to by BB and answer questions. They all do.

Looks like he relished his time to sit there and put on a performance like he does on his youtube channel to me.


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It's why they all flee to the diary room during times of stress or after a particular falling out/argument because it's somewhere they can go to get their thoughts out properly, be listened to, not shouted over and have someone pay attention and ask them what they think.
It's all about them and their opinions when they're in the diary room.

They all love it.
Some love it more than others, and some do so because they know they can be as cutting as they like in there without any fear that you'll be labelled a bitch or saying things behind people's backs. And it gives them a great chance above all else to communicate to the public.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7073151)
Of course you think that..... you like him.

Either it's true, or it isn't. Can you give me an example of Christopher being unpleasant in the diary room?

Josy 19-07-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7073146)
I'll use the example of someone like Christopher who I think is a genuinely nice guy who doesn't say anything too unfair about anyone, at any time.

He does give his true opinions on what he thinks of the hm's though.

Danielle gave her opinions but in an OTT way as does Mark, Ashleigh gives her opinions pretty much in the same style as Chris does, Helen is just the same as the way she always is, Winston gives his opinions in there in a more stupid way and so on..

Marsh. 19-07-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7073157)
Either it's true, or it isn't. Can you give me an example of Christopher being unpleasant in the diary room?

I never said he has been unpleasant in the diary room. But Chris hasn't either.

Marsh. 19-07-2014 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7073155)
Some love it more than others, and some do so because they know they can be as cutting as they like in there without any fear that you'll be labelled a bitch or saying things behind people's backs. And it gives them a great chance above all else to communicate to the public.

Yes, that's kind of the point of the diary room. It's named that for a reason.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7073161)
I never said he has been unpleasant in the diary room. But Chris hasn't either.

Yes he has. He's made very cutting remarks that would be seen as bitchy and nasty had an attractive woman said them in the pod with Ashleigh & Danielle

Marsh. 19-07-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7073165)
Yes he has. He's made very cutting remarks that would be seen as bitchy and nasty had an attractive woman said them in the pod with Ashleigh & Danielle

Every single housemate has made "cutting" remarks about others. They wouldn't be human otherwise.

Bitching in groups behind housemates backs with one another is bitching. Being friendly to someone's face but bitching and turning other housemates against them is two faced.

Any of them sitting in the diary room and giving their opinion on housemates does not make them a bitch. We all think things about other people, we don't have to say it. But that is what the "diary" room is for, for them to spill their thoughts on the other housemates and the experience as a whole.

Big Brother is a social game, they are going to evaluate one another's personalities, especially when asked for those opinions by Big Brother.

Chris being asked for his thoughts on Helen and responding honestly is very different to dripping poison in all the housemates ears about Helen to turn them against her. He's also very complimentary and nice about the people he gets along with.

psychtracker 19-07-2014 05:35 PM

If Chris is 'witty' enough to win over the public via the diary room, good luck to him i say!

Livia 19-07-2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7073123)
Everyone of them relish being in the DR and saying what they really think

There is nothing else to be said, really.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7073173)
Every single housemate has made "cutting" remarks about others. They wouldn't be human otherwise.

Not like him in the diary room.

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itching in groups behind housemates backs with one another is bitching. Being friendly to someone's face but bitching and turning other housemates against them is two faced.
Yes, and Chris does both of these things.

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Any of them sitting in the diary room and giving their opinion on housemates does not make them a bitch.
Depends on they give their opinions. Chris clearly makes catty comments and has a good bitch.


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We all think things about other people, we don't have to say it. But that is what the "diary" room is for, for them to spill their thoughts on the other housemates and the experience as a whole.
Yes, it's there for them to bitch and Chris does it better than anyone whilst in there.

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Big Brother is a social game, they are going to evaluate one another's personalities, especially when asked for those opinions by Big Brother.

Chris being asked for his thoughts on Helen and responding honestly is very different to dripping poison in all the housemates ears about Helen to turn them against her. He's also very complimentary and nice about the people he gets along with.
He drips poison in the viewers ears about them without giving them any chance to defend themselves.

Marsh. 19-07-2014 05:40 PM

Oh dear.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7073256)
There is nothing else to be said, really.

Well there is. Because clearly they don't all relish making cutting remarks in the DR as not all of them do it.

Tarryn 19-07-2014 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7073267)
Well there is. Because clearly they don't all relish making cutting remarks in the DR as not all of them do it.

You seem to have a real personal problem with Chris ?.
Are you okay ?.
Maybe you need some help ?.
You seem quite obsessed with him ?.

Josy 19-07-2014 05:45 PM

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He drips poison
FGS :laugh:


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