Helen is in the final, you know the night when the winner is announced? :facepalm:

I hope the producers are reading this thread and recognize the correct thing to do...

Open the vote to win on Friday and have all 6 there for the final night. It's the easiest way to avoid any further complaints.

Nope. The final is when the vote for the winner begins.

Ohhhh well thats me told. :facepalm: :joker:

Well, you've come in a bit late. I think we're all knackered discussing it.

But anyway, I'm just hoping they don't do some other twist that leads to a favourite getting evicted before a VTW opens. Open the VTW on Friday and have all 6 there the next Friday.

Sorry :idc: yes I agree :)

Emma Willis hosts the first of two live launch shows, as a new set of housemates enter the House. One night.
Emma Willis hosts the second part of the live launch show. Another night.

The final is not specific to one night.

FINAL can include FINAL WEEK and FINAL NIGHT. Together they are referred to as "THE FINAL"

Emma: Whoever Pauline chooses will go from here all the way to the end.

The end = Next Friday.

The end.

The vote to win is the beginning of the end

Did she make that decision on the live launch?

Clutching at straws now. Two launches only started last year and the TV guide, the description labels both shows as launch shows.

The only episode labelled "Big Brother: The Live Final" will be next Friday.

If there is an eviction prior to that it will be labelled like all the others "Big Brother: Live Eviction".

Yes, as the show, the tv guide, the press release all labelled it as the launch part 2.

The only show labelled the Big Brother Final will air on Friday 15th August.

The live final episode. The final begins when the vote which culminates in that episode begins however.

The end is the end, not the beginning of the end, not the middle of the end. The end. :laugh:

Therefore they can't open the vote to win unless every housemate who remains after tomorrow can stay until next Friday.

I hope they do start knocking the lowest votes out first cause with a bit of luck my least favourites votes wont start coming in until the friday - i can but hope :laugh:

Achilles brought up the TV guide description as a means of argument, so therefore if we follow that then next Friday is the only Final.

The TV guide said Friday the 15th was an eviction 2 nights ago.

Nope. The Live Final. Just that. Big Brother - The Live Final.

I'll leave you to your argument against facts.

Final night is the END OF THE FINAL. The culmination of the final. Final night. Final night can be broken down into 2 parts as well if they split it. Then final night part 2 can be broken down further in final part of the final night of the final week of the final :tongue:

Because channel 5 have only just confirmed when the final will air and CBB will launch. The TV guide is not psychic.

Well, she won't be there at the very end unless she wins.

Of course they can. She got to the end of the eviction voting process and made it to a vote to win. Aka the final. :dance:

But with any luck, these people will just let all 6 be there at the last night

You brought the TV labels in as an argument. They proved you wrong.

I see Digital Spy has started discussing this hours later than us.

this might be the worst argument in forum history.

Helen is going to get that freaking 5th place end of the story.

I cannot believe this is still going, really well said Marsh and you are 100% correct in my view.
That is all my thinking on this too.

Yes, but you're wrong. The final starts when vote to win starts. Obviously.

Actually it's the most important argument to be had if there is going to be a midweek eviction next week.

It may well end up just being a vote to win with 6 in the final next Friday. But imagine them doing a vote to evict with everyone but Helen and Ashleigh, the girl topping every popularity poll going. People wouldn't even have got a chance to vote for the person who most wanted to win.

There needs to be some discussion about this on forums before they just spring such a decision on the viewers.

I think there will be a mid week eviction before the final next Friday 15th August.
CBB starts 18th August .

I think they'll do an eviction on Wednesday 13th, and then have 5 in the final.

I'm predicting Pav and Mark to go this Friday and then Wednesday either Ash or Chris will lose out on the final.

Ok, is it just me being daft but don't they normally put them ALLup at least once before the final..no need for nominations if this is the case.:shrug:

The final starts but that isn't the final,the final is the last day,the end of the series.
The final week is not the final, the final is the last day,the final day,when 5 or 6 housemates will be called out in the order they have been voted to.

The final shouldn't begin until the final housemates are in place.

Nope, the final is the moment the proceedings begin. You're talking about the culmination of the final.


The final housemates are in place when a vote to win starts.

No. They didn't last year.

I don't. I hope not anyway. There were 6 left for the last night for the celebrity series earlier this year.

And again, I'm just trying to get people to imagine the farce of there being another vote to evict that could lead to someone like Ashleigh going before a vote to win starts.

But it would not be going against the idea of someone having a free pass to the final if they did not make the last night imo. The free pass is up to when the final begins which is obviously when the vote to win begins.

They've always been the poor man's TiBB even before TiBB started. :idc:

If we are being pedantic then the end is when the winner is chosen which would mean Helen is the winner already :dance:

I very much doubt she would get the least votes to win if the VTW is opened Friday, so she is in the final regardless

Yes you are.

There will be a final round of nominations or the return of PH or something, it wont be vote to win yet.