wow, cute propaganda image. yay for google images...

and gay people have been oppressed, enslaved and had their rights denied since the beginning of time by not only white people, but by Blacks and every other race too.

What is your point?

If the "protesters" in Ferguson had their way, we'd be ruled by Mobs (who seem more interested in sneakers, weaves, and liquor than anything else)

Remind me again what looting a beauty supply shop has to do with civil rights? oh yea, i forgot, we aren't allowed to talk about black women's hair...

wut? LOL

You used the time frame difference of blacks having rights over 50 years now (apparently). My point was don't compare the timeline of black rights movement and gay rights movement. LGB was around in the 80's and became LGBT in the 1990's. You mentioned all the achievements blacks have achieved in regard to their movement, they've been doing it for ages so rightly so there should been some progress. Your side is getting there beginning with gay marriage but this isn't about homosexuals so stop making it about them in every situation.

"Other minority rights groups/activists engage in SHAMEful behavior, while almost all gay rights protests are all about PRIDE."

Funny because I am reading some articles and white people have started many riots over various subjects like someone getting fired, beer not being allowed at an event, pumpkins, football games, surf competition but people riot about one kid who they think was unjustly killed and we get comments like "I don't care about black, go "BACH" to Africa", "shameful behaviour". Oh the white priviledge. And why isn't the news talking about this outcome, they mentioned Lee Rigby I couldn't be arsed this time. If Mike Brown was white they would not have talked about his supposed thuggish side but they would have painted him as a bright, loving kid who lost his mind along the way. If Lee Rigby did some bad **** in the past we would hardly know about it because all that matters is that one moment that he was killed, as it should be for Mike Brown but nope, everything has to go against him, his family owns guns, he looked like an oversized demon, he lives in the ghetto. Can't win.

Edit: Ok ITV news will report Ferguson.

The one thing M. Browns Family
have said is every Police Officer
should have a camera on them filming
then we can all see what went on.

i doubt that would have solved this. there are some people who will support a violent thug even with video evidence, and there is video evidence in this case of him being a violent thug.

Some people are very tribal, and just support their own, and can't hear reason.

"violent thug" lmfao

Is that scene before hand or at the actual moment, in the scene of the crime? That is the argument!! It's not just about race it's about justice. Even the cop testified he had his hands up, was unarmed. What terrified him was his demon like appearance. Ok then.

M.Brown was a walking Death Wish, sadly

But again, was this before hand or at the actual crime scene where the cop said he was unarmed and had his hands up?

Plenty of people rob with visible weapons and they are still handled appropriately.

Wilson did not know about the robbery. Some facts by Shaun King.

https://storify.com/laurahib/shaun-king

Support your brown brothers :bawling: People usually question or are skeptical or police or government actions in general but when a black kid is involved, he ****ing deserved it E'RTING the police is saying is FACT. Oh looky he was robbing, he deserved to die. :bawling: That ****ing paedo and child rapist can walk for bit but this evil, devil huge black bastard death is justified. :bawling::bawling::bawling::bawling:

^^^ WTF?

yes, he was a large violent thug. we've all seen the video. how would you describe his behavior in that video?

he was thuggish and violent. He robbed a store, and abused the staff at that store, violently. That makes him a violent thug.

Unarmed innocent youngster... You must be havin a laugh....!!!

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Whatever......... The appeal means nothing, will go nowhere and eventually overwhelming force will be used and law and order will be restored...






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America is a democracy, and has a Criminal Justice System which affords the due process of law to even murderers.

Whether this guy was a violent thug or not, and I agree that he seems to have been, he had his hands up - the universally recognised gesture of surrender, irrefutable proof that he was not holding a weapon of any kind, and a categorical admission that he was submissive -- willing to go quietly.

Since when, then, does a cop have the autonomy to execute a 'suspect' as he sees fit?

Where does it end? Shooting Roman Catholic priests on sight because the cop in question is an atheist? Blowing away guys with beards and long hair because the cop doing the executing has alopecia?

Why not just let cops round up everyone that frightens them or doesn't fit their brief of who should be breathing, and crack open a few canisters of the old 'Zyklon B' ?

The guy was executed - like the 12 year old kid with the toy gun in the other thread - by racist cops with their own agenda because he was black.

What part of unarmed and his hands were up do you not understand?


Anyway another article from a witness.

The fook is the police blaming social media for everything.

Lee Rigby "why didn't facebook alert us"
Mike Brown "social media played a part is sensationalizing this case"

Make your minds up. You can't just accept social media involvement when it suits you.

Dorian Johnson. He was walking with Mike at the time.

A giant druggie violent thug that attacked a cop is the same as a 12 yo boy with a fake gun? really?

you just lost all credibility. the cases have nothing to do with each other, unless you think all black people are the same, which would make you a racist.

wow, his accomplice would never lie right? his thug friends would never try to cover their own asses right?

give me a break.

just like that fat dumb black chick that looked like Precious on the Trayvon Martin case. GIVE ME A ****ING BREAK.

Why do black people always choose such MORONS as their rallying cry? i have no more sympathy now than i ever did for Rodney King. Stop rallying around criminal thugs! that's my advice to the black community.

Picking a guy who just robbed a store and beat up the owner stole a BLUNT wrapper so he could smoke weed, and then threatened and attacked cops, wow... yes, that's what actually happened...

How the hell do you think I should have sympathy for someone like that?

**** RODNEY KING, AND **** this dumb fat idiot THUG that got killed too.

Maybe if there was an actual INNOCENT victim, you'd gain more support for your cause.

Lostalex, you are just lost, prejudice racist individual, not just based on what you think of this case but the way you are talking in general. Not surprised seeing where you are from.

If you are discrediting any witnesses testimony based on their appearance then you are an idiot.

Arguing with someone like you that probably lives in privilidged area and whose biggest problem probably is what color shorts should I wear with my new tan today, is pointless. Someone like you could never understand, so this is pointless.

BYE FELICIA! <---Yes I acted ghetto.

http://i.imgur.com/gwBStpS.jpg

I never said the victims were the same - I said the motives for each victim being killed were the same - racism, because both victims were black.

I wouldn't worry about my credibility if I were you Alex, I am not blinded by any deep seated rage when I form opinions on what I read or see or hear, so when I eventually put metaphorical pen to paper, my views are the result of detached, logical analysis, and/or personal experience, and are as comprehensive and balanced as I can make them. This being so, other people may disagree with my views, or ignore them - as is often the case on here - but they can never question their credibility.

I welcome responses, but would ask that if anyone is going to respond critically to anything which I state in my posts, then please have the courtesy to have actually read and understood exactly what I have written before critiquing.

This, in particular, appears to be a flaw in your good self Alex - you seem to constantly paste angry retorts to my posts which often come across as irrational ranting because you have not correctly read and understood what I have written and become irritated by the false results of your own misconceptions.

Hardly my fault.

oh true, and then he was tried on the spot and sentenced to death 9 minutes after the alleged robbery

**** the popo

http://i.imgur.com/zewGW7i.gif The dumbass that wrote on twitter "black people we don't care about you go "bach" to Africa we never should have bought you" has been fired. http://i.imgur.com/zewGW7i.gif The dumbass had her employment place on facebook and so many people called there. Lmao stoopid. http://i.imgur.com/zewGW7i.gif

Another one wrote so is this the beginning of planet of the apes?...she's being handled! People tracked the **** out of them, got their work number and they are going to town. http://i.imgur.com/PCSbytY.gif

If that's a direct quote, then the bitch is not only ignorant but illiterate.

So LMFAO too.

Oh good. I heard her college was contacted by thousands of people.

http://i.imgur.com/DoDHrcZ.png

:xyxwave::xyxwave:

It was. Here is another people are passing around.

http://i.imgur.com/5xhCsnB.jpg

..it's strange how it was all concentrated on the inconsistencies of the witnesses testimonies but there seem to be inconsistencies in Wilson's also...he seemed to have a 'clear' head in his thought processes as he described them how he thought about using mace but then decided that wouldn't maybe be effective..?...and then his flashlight..?..before coming to the conclusion that he had to draw his gun....and yet when he was firing..(repeatedly..)...and someone who was unarmed, he couldn't remember how many shots were fired, where he had aimed exactly..?...

...it's also apparently the first time that he had used his firearm...it kind of leads you to think that maybe at the very least, he completely panicked in what was genuine fear...but that in itself is surely completely unacceptable because a member of the public would be charged in a similar situation..?...he's a trained police officer..he's trained not to panic....just because he may have felt that Michael Brown was a threat to his life, doesn't mean that he was one...and if he was still having 'rational thought' like he himself describes then why wasn't that identified by him also....an aimed non lethal shot would have prevented that threat/preserved life... but 12 shots suggests panic and completely wrong for the situation he found himself in....

..oh also, the anger thing and that Michael Brown looked like a 'demon' or something..?...when he described that 'look', he had just shot him, saw the blood so that 'look' would have surely been pain....my personal thoughts are that instead od waiting for some kind of back up, he went into a situation..lost control of it..became scared/panicked and shot and shot at Michael Brown until he was lifeless, so removing his fear....but that's murder though, isn't it..?...

Anyone would look like a demon if you blew the top of their head off?
That's hard to get over the fact he shot him 12 times, you would think that if acting rationally after shooting someone 6 or 7 times you would be pretty sure life was extinct...but 12?

Quote From Kizzy: "Anyone would look like a demon if you blew the top of their head off?
That's hard to get over the fact he shot him 12 times, you would think that if acting rationally after shooting someone 6 or 7 times you would be pretty sure life was extinct...but 12?"

You got it Kiz. -- When Homicide detectives come across a victim who has been stabbed repeatedly, say, 12 times, they immediately mentally categorize the motive for the murder as being 'personal' - ie; being committed by someone who knew the victim and who was acting out of 'rage' for personal reasons - especially if some of those wounds were inflicted 'post mortem'.

We do not yet know whether the cop Wilson knew Michael Brown previous to murdering him, but it is patently clear to any logical, impartial person, that the number of times he shot him would suggest either a 'knee jerk' over-reaction of panic due to sheer terror, or a contemptuous action of deliberate execution in an explosion of rage because of some twisted inner hatred.

The internet is full of 'eyewitness' accounts of what transpired - some of it conflicting - but the more weighty, more credible evidence, would suggest that Brown was clearly unarmed when first shot by Wilson, and that after being shot, he then tried to stagger away and was shot in the back, then turned to face Wilson and was then shot again. This is hardly the actions of a man who would strike terror in a trained, armed police officer, nor the 'knee jerk' panicked reaction of that officer succumbing to such terror.

No; having read all there is to currently read on the incident, and having viewed the numerous video footage, my initial conclusion - that this was a callous, unnecessary, racially motivated execution by a serving police officer, has been reinforced.

The fact that Brown was a bullying thieving thug - which some hurl into the discussion as some form of justification for Wilson's execution - has no relevance here at all. If Brown was such a thug, then he should have been arrested and charged and put into a prison cell to await the due processes of American law.

Wilson needs professional psychiatric evaluation, and his background needs exhaustive checking into by impartial investigators - but only after undergoing an independently orchestrated polygraph examination.

I read they were denying he was shot in the back?

Leader of KKK admits to having friends in the Law enforcement and admits to talking to them off the record. What a surprise. 4:50



Ok well he paid


But that's ok conveniently forget to release this footage as well. Just release the part they have released which portrays a different narrative to what actually happened. Oh my life. And that pig going on TV saying he has a clear conscience...unbelievable.

-White Kids on social media showing guns saying Missouri i'm coming, shoot those porch monkeys down
-Another little fact the examining photographer said he didn't take pictures because his camera had died. How professional.

[QUOTE=Ammi;7391167]..it's strange how it was all concentrated on the inconsistencies of the witnesses testimonies but there seem to be inconsistencies in Wilson's also...he seemed to have a 'clear' head in his thought processes as he described them how he thought about using mace but then decided that wouldn't maybe be effective..?...and then his flashlight..?..before coming to the conclusion that he had to draw his gun....

Absolutely Ammi -- such a self proclaimed sequence of thought processes are hardly supportive of "unavoidable action" due to a "state of panic" or "fear for life" are they?

Rule the panic driven knee-jerk reaction theory out, and we are left with only one conclusion - deliberate execution of an unarmed man by a serving police officer for his own personal motives.

It is then, only the motives themselves which need theorising and speculating upon.

Did the Officer Wilson detest people with the name Brown? Did he detest thieves? Did he lose his temper because - according to some eyewitnesses he attempted to open his 'prowler' car door but couldn't because he initially drew up too close to Brown and Johnson? Did Brown and Wilson struggle through the open window of the prowler? Did Wilson's gun go off accidentally during such a struggle?

All the above is totally irrelevant in addressing the $64,000 question of whether Wilson shot Brown legitimately 'in the line of duty'? or executed him unnecessarily for personal reasons.

The facts are irrefutable;

Brown was unharmed, debilitated and wounded by Wilson's first shot, so every additional shot was both unnecessary and of murderous intent.

There is absolutely no mitigation for the other shots - be they an additional 5 or an additional 11.

This was murder. Nothing less, and only the motive remains to be ascertained. I know - given the facts as we have them - what my conclusion is.

Yes Kizzy, but I'm going by the greater weight of testimony from what I deem the more credible of actual 'eyewitnesses' rather than those highly suspect 'Johnny Come Lately's whose 'testimony' I believe is deeply suspect and rather a convenient 'Deux Ex Machina' as far as the sanitized police version of events are concerned.