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Tom4784 27-10-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249321)
Exactly. The ones that "come to light" depend on the medias agenda at any given time.

That surely only bolsters my point about police brutality, no?

We only hear about certain stories, but it happens every day, it's just that there isn't always a camera around to record it.

Tom4784 27-10-2015 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249742)
This site has a vid with a student interview, it was seemingly over a mobile phone.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local...dent/74645568/

The police officer has been sued for similar behavior before, what a shocker.

Simply refusing to leave isn't an excuse for excessive force, especially since she wasn't offering physical resistance.

user104658 27-10-2015 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8249718)
Can we stick to discussing the thread topic and not eachother please?

If you don't know the answer to this already Niamh... :shrug:

Niamh. 27-10-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8249908)
If you don't know the answer to this already Niamh... :shrug:

:hehe:

Marsh. 27-10-2015 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8249862)
That surely only bolsters my point about police brutality, no?

We only hear about certain stories, but it happens every day, it's just that there isn't always a camera around to record it.

What do you mean?

A general point about "police brutality" is quite a broad statement and topic. This video is one incident.

Dominic 27-10-2015 05:51 PM


Pete. 27-10-2015 05:54 PM

God has spoken

Pete. 27-10-2015 05:55 PM


Nedusa 28-10-2015 06:30 AM

Maybe they thought she was an armed terrorist ready to commit an atrocity 😆, maybe the cop acted correctly and should be praised for his actions.

Northern Monkey 28-10-2015 07:18 AM

It does seem very excessive tbf.She's a small teenage girl.I'm pretty sure he could've just picked her up and carried her out in a controlled way.Yes the desk may have made it awkward but that looks to me like he lost his temper.
Obviously we need context though.She could've threatened him or something before hand.
Still you would'nt expect to see that kind of force used on anyone let alone a teenage girl unless they were physically attacking him.If i was her dad i would go and beat the **** out of him tbh.

Kizzy 28-10-2015 10:44 AM

It's shocking to see how many people will attempt to rationalise extreme violence if it is someone in a position of authority captured in the act.

user104658 28-10-2015 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8251390)
It does seem very excessive tbf.She's a small teenage girl.I'm pretty sure he could've just picked her up and carried her out in a controlled way.Yes the desk may have made it awkward but that looks to me like he lost his temper.
Obviously we need context though.She could've threatened him or something before hand.
Still you would'nt expect to see that kind of force used on anyone let alone a teenage girl unless they were physically attacking him.If i was her dad i would go and beat the **** out of him tbh.

Have you listened to the boy from the class that filmed it talking about it? He says that when the guy came in, he asked people to move tables etc. out of the way as he was approaching and also specifically moved breakable things off of her desk / out of the way as soon as he arrived... in other words, it seems like he had a pre-planned course of action before he even approached her.

Niamh. 28-10-2015 11:28 AM

Saw the video yesterday, that was very uncomfortable to watch, it's the kind of force you'd expect to see from a Police Officer taking down a crazed gun man/woman

Northern Monkey 28-10-2015 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8251639)
Have you listened to the boy from the class that filmed it talking about it? He says that when the guy came in, he asked people to move tables etc. out of the way as he was approaching and also specifically moved breakable things off of her desk / out of the way as soon as he arrived... in other words, it seems like he had a pre-planned course of action before he even approached her.

If that's true,Sounds like wanted to teach her a lesson or something.The way he grabbed her head in that headlock type move was totally unnecessary.I've watched a bouncer pick a fully grown man up and carry him out of a pub and up to the top of a street then put him down,No violence and the bloke even laughed about it.If a bouncer can do that to a man then surely a big strapping cop can take a similar approach with a tiny teenage girl.

user104658 28-10-2015 11:48 AM

I reckon it gets him hard. I'm not even joking; I think there's a strong possibility that he gets off on it.

arista 28-10-2015 02:27 PM

Now we know
The Student was asked to put her Mobile Phone away
she refused.

Now Many In USA back the Officers Force.


Sign Of The Times


Ref : FoxNewsHD , CNN America and Radio 5

Niamh. 28-10-2015 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8252065)
Now we know
The Student was asked to put her Mobile Phone away
she refused.

Now Many In USA back the Officers Force.


Sign Of The Times


Ref : FoxNewsHD , CNN America and Radio 5

Many in the USA back the officer after hearing the reason why was her not putting her phone away? wow. wth is wrong with people?

Samuel. 28-10-2015 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8252065)
Now we know
The Student was asked to put her Mobile Phone away
she refused.

Now Many In USA back the Officers Force.


Sign Of The Times


Ref : FoxNewsHD , CNN America and Radio 5

Really? That was it?! Absolutely disgusting.

arista 28-10-2015 02:42 PM

Yes the Teacher asked many times for her to put her
Phone Away, she ignored him.

I agree with bringing the Officer in.
I also think he was so Ruff on her
as she has done this before

arista 28-10-2015 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 8252090)
Really? That was it?! Absolutely disgusting.


Yes 100%
even on our radio 5


It was the student refused to stop texting
on her mobile phone

arista 28-10-2015 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Sam~ (Post 8249067)
This is disgusting, she only refused to leave the classroom.


Truth Out Today
She Reused to Stop using her Mobile Phone.
Teacher asked many times


So then the Officer is called in,

Fact

Niamh. 28-10-2015 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8252095)
Yes 100%
even on our radio 5


It was the student refused to stop texting
on her mobile phone

That is not a good reason to do what he did to her, I hope she sues him for assault, she'd be well within her rights as well.

Denver 28-10-2015 02:48 PM

When has not putting you phone away been a arrestable offence? Not even ISIS would do that, that police officer needs a dose of his own medicine

arista 28-10-2015 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8252101)
That is not a good reason to do what he did to her, I hope she sues him for assault, she'd be well within her rights as well.


Its not the same in America
Rules must be done.

She is Guilty First
would not do well in Court.

Niamh. 28-10-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8252106)
Its not the same in America
Rules must be done.

She is Guilty First
would not do well in Court.

I strongly disagree, he used excessive force, massively excessive force in fact.

arista 28-10-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8252104)
When has not putting you phone away been a arrestable offence? Not even ISIS would do that, that police officer needs a dose of his own medicine


Each USA School / College
has its own rules.


Isis would cut her head off
so do not bring that into this


More are now backing the Officer

arista 28-10-2015 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8252110)
I strongly disagree, he used excessive force, massively excessive force in fact.


Yes but the Staff have the Full Video
you do not.


I would assume this young lady
keeps doing this.
She was not Broken.


In USA Class
if Teacher says Put your phone away
you do it.

And the 2 kids that filmed it are now in trouble
was this a set up?

Niamh. 28-10-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8252122)
Yes but the Staff have the Full Video
you do not.


I would assume this young lady
keeps doing this.
She was not Broken.


In USA Class
if Teacher says Put your phone away
you do it.

And the 2 kids that filmed it are now in trouble
was this a set up?

"Fields, the 34-year-old senior school resource officer at the high school, has been suspended without pay while the sheriff’s office investigates. The school district said it has asked Fields to not return to any school in the district permanently"

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/ben-fi...eo-complaints/

Livia 28-10-2015 03:08 PM

Like I said earlier, I'd like to see what happened in the 30 minutes preceding the incident. I'd also like to know how often this kid is in trouble... otherwise we're all just commenting on a few minutes of film of the incident, the background of which we know nothing.

As far as rights are concerned, all those other kids in the class have rights, the least of which is the right to an education. Having some try-hard in class who disrupts it and refuses to get off their phone is not conducive to a decent learning environment. I hope if the kid who wouldn't get off her phone in class is reinstated, the other kids will also be able to use their right to an education to have her removed if she can't behave like an adult.

arista 28-10-2015 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8252144)
"Fields, the 34-year-old senior school resource officer at the high school, has been suspended without pay while the sheriff’s office investigates. The school district said it has asked Fields to not return to any school in the district permanently"

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/ben-fi...eo-complaints/


Yes He will Get New Work
in Private Security
Good Luck to Him

Niamh. 28-10-2015 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8252149)
Like I said earlier, I'd like to see what happened in the 30 minutes preceding the incident. I'd also like to know how often this kid is in trouble... otherwise we're all just commenting on a few minutes of film of the incident, the background of which we know nothing.

As far as rights are concerned, all those other kids in the class have rights, the least of which is the right to an education. Having some try-hard in class who disrupts it and refuses to get off their phone is not conducive to a decent learning environment. I hope if the kid who wouldn't get off her phone in class is reinstated, the other kids will also be able to use their right to an education to have her removed if she can't behave like an adult.

It doesn't even matter what happened 30 minutes beforehand or how disruptive the pupil was being. That was excessive force, unless she happened to be swinging a gun around 30 minutes before of course........but I'm sure that would have been mentioned by now if it were true.

kirklancaster 28-10-2015 03:11 PM

Discipline within schools must be maintained, and this rebellious girl should be punished, but any punishment must fit the crime, and this punishment was so blatantly excessive. This cop is so obviously one of those many, many freaks who became cops because it empowers them to be able to carry out their own secret agendas, and he should be booted off the force immediately.

I hope that her family sues the cop personally and the Force he works for, and is - rightfully - successful on both.

Niamh. 28-10-2015 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8252151)
Yes He will Get New Work
in Private Security
Good Luck to Him

Hopefully somewhere far away from kids :worry:

Niamh. 28-10-2015 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8252158)
Discipline within schools must be maintained, and this rebellious girl should be punished, but any punishment must fit the crime, and this punishment was so blatantly excessive. This cop is so obviously one of those many, many freaks who became cops because it empowers them to be able to carry out their own secret agendas, and he should be booted off the force immediately.

I hope that her family sues the cop personally and the Force he works for, and is - rightfully - successful on both.

Spot on.

arista 28-10-2015 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8252161)
Hopefully somewhere far away from kids :worry:


Yes People his own Size
he will be armed

Josiah. 28-10-2015 03:16 PM

I am watching the news right now and they have said that the officer that did this has just been fired.

kirklancaster 28-10-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josiah. (Post 8252173)
I am watching the news right now and they have said that the officer that did this has just been fired.

Good - a step in the right direction.

Ammi 28-10-2015 06:18 PM

"She is responsible for initiating this action ... but it did not justify his actions", he said.

"When he threw her across the room he lost control of her and that is against our policy."



...so the throwing her across the room bit was ok then and perfectly reasonable, he should have just been more careful with his grasp I guess...

arista 28-10-2015 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8252564)
"She is responsible for initiating this action ... but it did not justify his actions", he said.

"When he threw her across the room he lost control of her and that is against our policy."



...so the throwing her across the room bit was ok then and perfectly reasonable, he should have just been more careful with his grasp I guess...



Yes Ammi
could be a repeat offender

Many in USA backed the Copper

As that Girl would not put her Mobile Phone
away.

Ammi 28-10-2015 06:28 PM

...stop being silly Arista, he's a 'control officer' and his job is dealing with situations and behavioural issues...you don't throw a student across the room for using a mobile phone in class...


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