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Yaki da 22-06-2016 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746429)
You are missing the point. By a mile.

The point is not about smoking, it is about controlling behaviors.
More likely she just doesn't like getting off with a man who smokes.

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Sulking, which we know Georgina does, is a passive aggressive controlling behavior. Moaning and nagging is a controlling behavior. Telling people outright what they can and can't do is a controlling behavior.
It might be that there's a good reason for telling people not to do something.

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She is a narcissistic control freak.
It is extraordinary the extremes that people go to with their criticisms of a person.

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746429)
You are missing the point. By a mile.

The point is not about smoking, it is about controlling behaviors.

Sulking, which we know Georgina does, is a passive aggressive controlling behavior. Moaning and nagging is a controlling behavior. Telling people outright what they can and can't do is a controlling behavior.

She is a narcissistic control freak. Awful GF material. She will eat Jackson alive and not give it a second thought. She will make sure to get her expensive loot before she sucks him dry though.
I know what Georgina is like.

I'm just saying that Smoking is financially draining, and damaging to your own health and people's health around you, if Georgina doesn't want to consent to that then Jackson HAS to accept that, and if he doesn't then his the one that's in the wrong.

Edit... And I might commit murder if Georgina was my GF.:joker:

Nicky91 22-06-2016 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746446)
I know what Georgina is like.

I'm just saying that Smoking is financially draining, and damaging to your own health and people's health around you, if Georgina doesn't want to consent to that then Jackson HAS to accept that, and if he doesn't then his the one that's in the wrong.
i agree with you, but some just dislike Georgina because she's rich :hehe:

vesavius 22-06-2016 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746446)

Edit... And I might commit murder if Georgina was my GF.:joker:
Only if she said that you could :P

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746452)
Only if she said that you could :P
Okay then I'd take her money.:joker:

Withano 22-06-2016 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8746438)
What did she do that can't be defended exactly?
She came off as a snobby elitest. Theres no point in defending it with "oh yeh but shes insecure, maybe shes just blah blah bkah" If you watched thhe show without holding a bias to your favourite, you would have disliked her more than you did at the beginning of thhe show. She had a bad episode and defending that is pointless.

vesavius 22-06-2016 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8746444)

It is extraordinary the extremes that people go to with their criticisms of a person.
And, indeed, to defend them.

Nicky91 22-06-2016 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8746459)
She came off as a snobby elitest. Theres no point in defending it with "oh yeh but shes insecure, maybe shes just blah blah bkah" If you watched thhe show without holding a bias to your favourite, you would have disliked her more than you did at the beginning of thhe show. She had a bad episode and defending that is pointless.
let's just hope this was her only bad episode then, and disliking her because she's rich lol :laugh:

armand.kay 22-06-2016 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746442)
Because there is a difference in asking someone to stop, and telling them that they have to.
Maybe he does if he wants to be with her.. I don't how that's an unreasonable request.

Withano 22-06-2016 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746466)
let's just hope this was her only bad episode then, and disliking her because she's rich lol :laugh:
Yeh, i hope so too cos shes been one of my favourites from the start

But lets call a spade a spade, she came off terribly last night, if she carrys on like this, she wont leave the house popular

Nicky91 22-06-2016 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8746472)
Yeh, i hope so too cos shes been one of my favourites from the start

But lets call a spade a spade, she came off terribly last night, if she carrys on like this, she wont leave the house popular
let's hope for a better episode tonight then :)



and thank you to she's one of your favourites from the start, also with me from the launch show :)

vesavius 22-06-2016 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8746471)
Maybe he does if he wants to be with her.. I don't how that's an unreasonable request.
Because it wasn't a request.

Did you read what I wrote? :P

"Because there is a difference in asking someone to stop, and telling them that they have to."

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746466)
let's just hope this was her only bad episode then, and disliking her because she's rich lol :laugh:
You ain't gonna stop the people that dislike her for being rich, jealousy is an ugly thing in all forms.

However the people that are judging her on her actions that don't like her could be won over if she works hard enough for it.

It is like the pretty white girl syndrome on singing shows though, the only way they have a chance is to scream notes, and even then Reggie N Bollie got 38% of the vote.:joker:

Dollface 22-06-2016 02:02 PM
Idk why everyone thinks Georgina is terrible for being a snob. She IS better than Jackson :shrug:

Yaki da 22-06-2016 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8746459)
She came off as a snobby elitest.
She did not. She came across as someone who recognised that there were cultural differences that would cause great awkwardness in a family gathering. She did not come across as someone who thinks social status is an indication of human worth.


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Theres no point in defending it with "oh yeh but shes insecure, maybe shes just blah blah bkah" If you watched thhe show without holding a bias to your favourite, you would have disliked her more than you did at the beginning of thhe show. She had a bad episode and defending that is pointless.

The only person who does that is Nicky. And I don't think she had a bad show. I though she was as amusing as usually is in the diary room.

Kazanne 22-06-2016 02:03 PM
Who has said they don't like Georgina because she is rich ?:shrug:

Yaki da 22-06-2016 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 8746493)
Idk why everyone thinks Georgina is terrible for being a snob. She IS better than Jackson :shrug:
And that is another argument. Is it actually wrong for a person to think they are more cultured and have better manners, values and morals than another?

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 8746493)
Idk why everyone thinks Georgina is terrible for being a snob. She IS better than Jackson :shrug:
What people are trying to say is that she shouldn't be thinking that she's better than Jackson.:laugh:

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8746498)
Who has said they don't like Georgina because she is rich ?:shrug:
People don't have to say it, but I think you'll agree with me when saying that Posh contestants only have to say one thing wrong and they're gone, just look at Ben in BB11.

Dollface 22-06-2016 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8746500)
And that is another argument. Is it actually wrong for a person to think they are more cultured and have better manners, values and morals than another?
I don't think it's wrong, but I was bought up to think i'm better than everyone else so :laugh:

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:07 PM
I wonder if people think that I'm wrong for thinking that I'm better than my parents?

LukeB 22-06-2016 02:08 PM
I don't think she was actually being a snob she was just stating the obvious how different they are and what the reaction would be if she was to introduce Jackson to her friends.

waterhog 22-06-2016 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8746519)
I don't think she was actually being a snob she was just stating the obvious how different they are and what the reaction would be if she was to introduce Jackson to her friends.
that's right - it was not looking down or anything - just thinking and when you are in BB that is what you do most of the time - just think.

Yaki da 22-06-2016 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 8746512)
I don't think it's wrong, but I was bought up to think i'm better than everyone else so :laugh:
Yes, no one has actually argued why it would be wrong for Georgina to think she's above Jackson (which she doesn't imo).

We have a democratic culture with an egalitarian message and the idea that some people are better than others offends people. But I've no problem saying I'm above an odious creature like Marco. I doubt anyone else would.

Kazanne 22-06-2016 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746511)
People don't have to say it, but I think you'll agree with me when saying that Posh contestants only have to say one thing wrong and they're gone, just look at Ben in BB11.
Ben was one of my fave housemates ever,he made me laugh so much,what a character he was,very underrated housemate

Jamie89 22-06-2016 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8746540)
Yes, no one has actually argued why it would be wrong for Georgina to think she's above Jackson (which she doesn't imo).

We have a democratic culture with an egalitarian message and the idea that some people are better than others offends people. But I've no problem saying I'm above an odious creature like Marco. I doubt anyone else would.
If she does, it would make her a snob, and some people don't like snobs.

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 8746526)
that's right - it was not looking down or anything - just thinking and when you are in BB that is what you do most of the time - just think.
Unless you're Alex.

Josy 22-06-2016 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8746459)
She came off as a snobby elitest. Theres no point in defending it with "oh yeh but shes insecure, maybe shes just blah blah bkah" If you watched thhe show without holding a bias to your favourite, you would have disliked her more than you did at the beginning of thhe show. She had a bad episode and defending that is pointless.
:clap1:

Basically covered everything, Georgina came across awful last night and there is no defense for it unless youre wearing your bias glasses.

Jamie89 22-06-2016 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8746553)
Ben was one of my fave housemates ever,he made me laugh so much,what a character he was,very underrated housemate
Same, I loved Ben. I'd never dislike a HM just because their posh. Being posh doesn't reflect what someone's personality is (and 'posh' isn't the same as 'snob').

armand.kay 22-06-2016 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8746519)
I don't think she was actually being a snob she was just stating the obvious how different they are and what the reaction would be if she was to introduce Jackson to her friends.
This tbh.

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8746553)
Ben was one of my fave housemates ever,he made me laugh so much,what a character he was,very underrated housemate
I agree with you, I also loved Govan and Sunshine in that series.:joker:

But if you remember Ben was staying that week until he made that one comment about Josie's weight and bang he was gone with 52% of the vote.

Tbf Georgina has been more offensive than Ben so far so I can understand people voting her out, it's just that Posh people do suffer quite badly on the show, although not as badly as the black girls.

Yaki da 22-06-2016 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8746575)
If she does, it would make her a snob
That would depend on her reason for thinking it (which I don't think she does anyway)

Yaki da 22-06-2016 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8746581)
:clap1:

Basically covered everything, Georgina came across awful last night and there is no defense for it unless youre wearing your bias glasses.
It depends entirely on your own values.

And perhaps not even that. All she recognised was that it would be awkward with how she thinks Jackson is for him to be at a family gathering given what her family are like. That doesn't mean she doesn't like him or thinks he's beneath her, which is how some people are wrongly interpreting it.

armand.kay 22-06-2016 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8746581)
:clap1:

Basically covered everything, Georgina came across awful last night and there is no defense for it unless youre wearing your bias glasses.
Meh some people just get more butthurt about these type of things. I personally found it funny so she didn't really seem awful to me. In fact for me the entire ep Jackson was a cringe and that I found more awful than even Natalie.

Yaki da 22-06-2016 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8746627)
Meh some people just get more butthurt about these type of things. I personally found it funny so she didn't really seem awful to me. In fact for me the entire ep Jackson was a cringe and that I found more awful than even Natalie.
They seem to be confusing her wanting to avoid the awkwardness of the cultural clash that would be on display between Jackson (who she admitted liking) and her friends/family, with her thinking Jackson is somehow beneath her or them, rather than just radically different.

She's not even allowed to talk about liking shoes and handbags without being called an elitist.

reece(: 22-06-2016 02:39 PM
They are polar opposites so her reaction doesn't surprise me, given how she is anyway.

Nicky91 22-06-2016 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8746627)
Meh some people just get more butthurt about these type of things. I personally found it funny so she didn't really seem awful to me. In fact for me the entire ep Jackson was a cringe and that I found more awful than even Natalie.
me too, i agree with you :)



and every housemate will have it's flaws, our Georgina isn't perfect, but then again nobody is perfect :)

Garfie 22-06-2016 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 8746493)
Idk why everyone thinks Georgina is terrible for being a snob. She IS better than Jackson :shrug:
An opinion stated as a fact.

Vicky. 22-06-2016 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8746439)
I'm a smoker but I don't see what's wrong with Georgina telling Jackson that the smoking is a problem for her like would you rather she just ended the relationship and told him that she can't be with a smoker?
I was slightly annoyed that Jackson didn't go all 'I got my addictions blud' on her like he did with hughie :laugh: No whinging about snorting lines off the floor when a girls telling him what to do eh

armand.kay 22-06-2016 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8747231)
I was slightly annoyed that Jackson didn't go all 'I got my addictions blud' on her like he did with hughie :laugh: No whinging about snorting lines off the floor when a girls telling him what to do eh
Yeah he goes all "if I don't get my fag I'm gonna shoot heroin" on Hughie for just suggesting that he should ration his fags and wait till 1 but Georgina is like" yeah it has to stop.. Forever" and not a word from him. Like wth :laugh:


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