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Cherie 10-07-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8802358)
Elaborate :unsure:



liberal
ˈlɪb(ə)r(ə)l/
adjective
1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.


Dismissing someone's views as trolling is as far from liberal as you can get

Jack_ 10-07-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8802365)
liberal
ˈlɪb(ə)r(ə)l/
adjective
1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.


Dismissing someone's views as trolling is as far from liberal as you can get

Not exactly, do I accept that there are people who don't believe police brutality and institutionalised racism in the US is a problem? Obviously. But LeatherTrumpet isn't one of them, nor does he really believe Kate McCann is some wonderful woman either

He's entitled to post what he wants, that is being a liberal. And I'm entitled to say I believe he's being disingenuous, that's also liberal

Alf 10-07-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 8801950)
bringing this from the other thread because the other one is about the police officers




"The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings,"

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

"given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots. "

I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason'

"If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood. "

I'm not going to talk about this because it opens a new argument which I will probably upset people with.

"There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem."

I can understand why you feel this way, I really do. I just don't think this is being reported fairly and whilst I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened.

I think this woman gets the point across better than me. I know its about Mike Brown but the point still stands (towards the end more so)



"Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone."

Again I can totally see why you'd think this, but again I don't think 'police brutality' is any where near as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm going to pinch Maru's post because she summed it up perfectly and we all know I'm not good with words.

"National media is basically tabloids disguised as real news on TV 24/7. It is 95% entertainment, 4.9% headlines, .1% facts. 100% of the coverage is Donald Trump, BLM, evil law enforcement, dead people, mass shootings and constant coverage of celebrity deaths (like Anna Nicole Smith, who cares ). Donald Trump gets more coverage than the superbowl. A racist self-absorbed prick's opinion is more important than delivering the facts around majorly important issues. Ok.

If you listened to national media all day you would think our society has gone insane, but it's a major distortion of life here that people eat it up because it adds color and meaning to their otherwise mundane lives. Disenfranchised people want other people to blame. Businesses want other parties to be responsible for their failures. The public hear that actual effort won't fix the issues, but getting attention and promoting violence will (by suggesting people will arm themselves or go to the streets)."

This makes me sound like an awful, naive, uneducated person but I'm not, lol. Being a minority myself, I'd hate to see another minority being treated unfairly because of who they are. I just don't think that in most cases the media is talking about is actually what the media tells us.

You are good with words, don't put yourself down, there's no need too.

user104658 10-07-2016 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8802365)
liberal
ˈlɪb(ə)r(ə)l/
adjective
1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.


Dismissing someone's views as trolling is as far from liberal as you can get

Not if it is legitimately trolling.

That said I don't think LT is (always) trolling, he has his moments but mostly he just has a few "sticky points" that he adheres to with bizarre stubbornness.

Crimson Dynamo 10-07-2016 04:20 PM

I feel like the guy in a wheelchair and people are talking to my carer and not me

:fist:

user104658 10-07-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8802446)
I feel like the guy in a wheelchair and people are talking to my carer and not me

:fist:

Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

Crimson Dynamo 10-07-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8802450)
Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

:joker:

:creep:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 10-07-2016 04:36 PM

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bre...lando-castile/

So from a distance the officer was able to spot a wide set nose that resembled one from a suspect-how close was he driving to spot this nose? 🤔 When you stop someone for suspected robbery you're not going to tell them you suspect them you ask for ID which he did, he must've have mentioned the taillight as a reason to stop them instead to hide the true intentions so I don't think the gf was lying because she wouldn't pick up the camera and lie so blatantly with the officer there. Castille didn't have to tell him he had a gun but he did for his knowledge and as per American law he had a right to carry that gun. Castille has no harsh criminal record, mostly traffic offices ( which we know thanks to the media always rushing for any criminal record when a black person is involved in anything and even indeed that gorilla incident) - he wasn't allowed to drive, he wasn't. I doubt he was going to shoot this man in front of a 4 yr old.

We need to verify that this new audio from the officer is authentic.

Cherie 10-07-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8802450)
Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

I think you should take over the sponging as you think LT isn't capable of rational thought :hmph:

Crimson Dynamo 10-07-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8802492)
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bre...lando-castile/

So from a distance the officer was able to spot a wide set nose that resembled one from a suspect-how close was he driving to spot this nose? 🤔 When you stop someone for suspected robbery you're not going to tell them you suspect them you ask for ID which he did, he must've have mentioned the taillight as a reason to stop them instead to hide the true intentions so I don't think the gf was lying because she wouldn't pick up the camera and lie so blatantly with the officer there. Castille didn't have to tell him he had a gun but he did for his knowledge and as per American law he had a right to carry that gun. Castille has no harsh criminal record, mostly traffic offices ( which we know thanks to the media always rushing for any criminal record when a black person is involved in anything and even indeed that gorilla incident) - he wasn't allowed to drive, he wasn't. I doubt he was going to shoot this man in front of a 4 yr old.

We need to verify that this new audio from the officer is authentic.


This info has already been posted in the thread and the fact it was a suspected robbery stop has been confirmed by the officer's attorney


I posted this just after i posted 3 questions for you that you must have forgotten to answer

:think:

user104658 10-07-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8802499)
I think you should take over the sponging as you think LT isn't capable of rational thought :hmph:

Last time I tried he called the cops and they tried to shoot me.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 10:02 AM

Nixon signs bill to limit access to police videos :laugh: what's spurred this on? :conf:

Crimson Dynamo 11-07-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8805124)
Nixon signs bill to limit access to police videos :laugh: what's spurred this on? :conf:

idiots who watch videos and think they are judge and jury evidence


like the Dallas shooter




sounds like an excellent idea

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 10:22 AM

The Dallas shooting wasn't just based on current events. Besides released videos are necessary so the public is not lies to. I watched a lot of programmes on corrupt crimes and the amount of times the police department cover up facts is astonishing. Released videos is necessary.

Crimson Dynamo 11-07-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8805147)
The Dallas shooting wasn't just based on current events. Besides released videos are necessary so the public is not lies to. I watched a lot of programmes on corrupt crimes and the amount of times the police department cover up facts is astonishing. Released videos is necessary.

incorrect

without context or input from the police they are incendiary and useless

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8802547)
Last time I tried he called the cops and they tried to shoot me.

Standard procedure.

arista 11-07-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8805162)
incorrect

without context or input from the police they are incendiary and useless


Yes the Arrogance!

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 11:55 AM

The fear is that the released video can provide the full context. :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 11-07-2016 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8805231)
The fear is that the released video can provide the full context. :laugh:

incorrect

Alf 11-07-2016 12:02 PM

Diamond and Silk

:clap1:




Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8805234)
incorrect

Correct as nobody would know Eric Garner had his hands up or that Mike Brown actually paid :laugh:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 8805235)
Diamond and Silk

:clap1:




Summarise ain't nobody got time to watch 20 min foolery.

Why don't all rights matter when gays fight for rights? Everyone has to impose themselves when blacks fight for rights? :laugh:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 8805235)
Diamond and Silk

:clap1:




Few minutes in

" most of those cops act on fear. Mostly fear of the black men- we don't know why they're afraid. Maybe one of them shot them, shot their family " yes let's stereotype black men and focus on to the root of the cops fear but not the black mans


Let's sit down and solve he problem on he table. Whose table? How long have black people been either marching or talking about the problem even on the news but they're shot down?

" Left wing media is trying to divide us by saying a white cop shot a black man-bonus points for unarmed" sigh how much did he pay these 2 heffas

Ok fine all lives matter. But can we still discuss the Mark Furhmans , the Eric Garners?

Crimson Dynamo 11-07-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8805283)
Few minutes in

" most of those cops act on fear. Mostly fear of the black men- we don't know why they're afraid. Maybe one of them shot them, shot their family " yes let's stereotype black men and focus on to the root of the cops fear but not the black mans


Let's sit down and solve he problem on he table. Whose table? How long have black people been either marching or talking about the problem even on the news but they're shot down?

" Left wing media is trying to divide us by saying a white cop shot a black man-bonus points for unarmed" sigh how much did he pay these 2 heffas

Ok fine all lives matter. But can we still discuss the Mark Furhmans , the Eric Garners?

Do you know how many black peoples lives are saved by the Police in the USA every year?

Crimson Dynamo 11-07-2016 01:17 PM

and still waiting for you to reply to post 117

seems that the cat has got your tongue?

lewis111 11-07-2016 04:46 PM

Watching the way Blacks are treated at the peaceful protests is so discomforting

Crimson Dynamo 11-07-2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 8805739)
Watching the way Blacks are treated at the peaceful protests is so discomforting

Was that the peaceful protest where 5 policemen were murdered?

Ninastar 11-07-2016 04:59 PM

https://www.facebook.com/ryanalexand...6/?pnref=story

I agree with a lot of this. Not all of it but I agree with what he says in reply to those tweets.

kirklancaster 11-07-2016 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 8805767)
https://www.facebook.com/ryanalexand...6/?pnref=story

I agree with a lot of this. Not all of it but I agree with what he says in reply to those tweets.

:worship::worship::worship: To Ryan Carr - I have a new hero. :hee:

Thank you too for Posting this.

lewis111 11-07-2016 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8805757)
Was that the peaceful protest where 5 policemen were murdered?

No the many many other ones where no one was even injured except those who were tackled to the ground by police

Tom4784 11-07-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8805315)
Do you know how many black peoples lives are saved by the Police in the USA every year?

And what does that have to do with innocent black people being executed by officers that are bumbling an incompetent at best or who are guilty of racially motivated murder at worst?

One doesn't cancel out the other. it's very peculiar how eager you are to brush incidents like this under the carpet.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8805757)
Was that the peaceful protest where 5 policemen were murdered?

Pics show the protest was peaceful until that shooter came along. There is even a pic of protester posing with a cop, all smiles.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 8805767)
https://www.facebook.com/ryanalexand...6/?pnref=story

I agree with a lot of this. Not all of it but I agree with what he says in reply to those tweets.

"Native Americans were already killing each other" well I suppose it makes it alright then that you thought it was your duty to hold down the fort, kill the rest of them and take the land.

There are 46 millions slaves today- I suppose it's alright then it completely makes our part in slavery system irrelevant :joker:

This whole video reads yeah we did bad things but your feelings and points of view are invalid because other people do bad things too. :joker: and the fact that there are black entertainers has no bearing on anything- Neil Patrick Harris is one of the best paid actors and there are gays everywhere in Hollywood and general tv doesn't mean there aren't gay issues :rolleyes:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 11-07-2016 06:24 PM

Black people make 13% of the US population. Never going to win against the white majority. Never mind the world is ending soon anyway. We tried :joker:

Crimson Dynamo 11-07-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8805933)
Pics show the protest was peaceful until that shooter came along. There is even a pic of protester posing with a cop, all smiles.

arrests this weekend at BLM protests

300


:rolleyes:

Crimson Dynamo 11-07-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8805896)
And what does that have to do with innocent black people being executed by officers that are bumbling an incompetent at best or who are guilty of racially motivated murder at worst?

One doesn't cancel out the other. it's very peculiar how eager you are to brush incidents like this under the carpet.

innocent black people being executed by officers

evidence?




utterly unbelievable



i am amazed you are allowed to post that ion Tibb

AMAZED

Alf 12-07-2016 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 8805767)
https://www.facebook.com/ryanalexand...6/?pnref=story

I agree with a lot of this. Not all of it but I agree with what he says in reply to those tweets.

PJW,s latest vid Will anger the forum's Beyoncé fans. :joker:



Crimson Dynamo 12-07-2016 01:20 PM

:clap1:

haha

He totally shows her up

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 12-07-2016 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8806295)
arrests this weekend at BLM protests

300


:rolleyes:

Various sources show that some of those arrest wasn't due to violence or hateful speech :rolleyes:


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