This is not surprising, nor is the few supporting it on here tbh. Some people just seem to hate women. What good will cutting back on services do? Even if this was an outright ban on abortions, that would do no good either, force people to have babies they don't want...or having to go backstreet and risking their lives

Truth...you realise that forcing women to have babies will tend to end up with men paying out a lot of money for these unwanted children? Tax payers paying more also, care systems being dragged to their knees, and so on?

Also **** this 'baby' stuff...its not like killing a baby at all. If it is, then even stuff like the morning after pill and such are potential baby murderers.

What's the problem with not forcing tax payers to fund abortions if they do not believe in the practice?

Exactly. I notice Truth won't answer my question that I've asked him multiple times on the thread. He says Abortion should only be allowed to women who are raped but if it's acceptable to do it then you can't actually believe it's murdering a baby because if you truly believed that then it would never be acceptable no matter what the circumstances

Instead force taxpayers to pay out a ****load more cash for unwanted babies? Sense..

I don't believe in a lot of stuff my taxes go on tbh

Did he ask the Tax payers first?

If we ever find a contraceptive that is 100% effective, I may slightly change my views on this, but whilst the best is only 98% effective (meaning 2 people of every hundred will still get pregnant even when using it) then no. And I will never support taking away a womans right to chose completely. I do however, support lowering the limit for 'choice' abourtions...but I believe this isn't even necessary as most are carried out in the first few weeks, tends to be only for medical reasons when people have them later

Hmm, so let's kill babies because we can't afford them. Sounds very humane. Let's kill unwanted babies because we don't want them - same argument was used to justify killing the Jews in 1940s Europe.

There is a thing called adoption, it actually allows you to give children to parents that actually want them without killing them before they are born. Honestly, and you are the same people that call Donald Trump immoral.

You know, the only people you fail listen to are the innocent unborn children. Where is their voice in all this? Silence.

Do you think the morning after Pill is ok then or not?

Out goes the Holocaust card
SD is fun

Again though a load of men again in here trying to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies.

I saw a great comment about 'pro life' on a Facebook article about this earlier. It said, and I quote:

'Let's call it what it is - anti choice. If it was about promoting life, he would be ensuring all children have access to healthcare, education and a safe gun free environment.'

Burn!

According to DM Strump wants to start building the Mexican wall today. What about the Russian migrants? I can't wait for everything to backfire on his stupid ass

I think it's the responsibility of the parents to make the right decisions surrounding their sexual antics and the consequences of them. There are many debates surrounding whether or not a child is alive at conception or not - and I thought the morning after pill was meant to be taken without the knowledge of a pregnancy, just like a precaution. I view the morning after pill as being the same as a prophylactic/ condo,, it prevents pregnancy from taking place because there is evidence that suggests it takes around 5 days for a pregnancy to begin or not begin.

I'm sure President Trump values your very thoughtful and insightful opinion. Not.

Are you personally, and those who share your opinions, going to look after all these children you want to force to be born - put your money where your mouth is kind of thinking, or once they are born will you excuse yourself of any responsibility in their plight with no families to care for them.

Thought as much. So what if a women is raped and she's too distraught by the ordeal to think straight, can she have an abortion if she finds out she's pregnant say 3 weeks in?

They aren't babies at that stage...and adoption agencies are bursting at the seams.

Anyway, my point was if its taxpayers money thats the problem, it will cost 10000000x more to force people to have babies than to fund abortion.

If anything MORE funding needs to be put into stuff like this. I don't know if America is the same as here, but you get no counseling, no information, just get given a pill here. No discussion about it or anything.

That's a good dose of wishful thinking you have going on there.

You may be happy to live in a country becoming more and more dangerous to live in due to crime from illegals involved in drug and gun crime but most don't. Very short-sighted viewpoint.

But he won't even think about tackling gun laws though will he, too much cash involved in that and big corporations with a stake in those companies I would imagine. It's all very selective

...says the person who compared abortion to the Holocaust :umm2:

similar death count

Of course sometimes is ok to murder a baby though, isn't Truth, if the woman is raped for example?

Changes to gun laws aren't likely to significantly impact on guns used by illegals. They can get them elsewhere. So any changes in guns laws aren't likely to effect the increased gang and gun crimes.

Women shouldnt be allowed to have abortions and if they do they should be locked up and the ovaries taken away. such an evil act.

As it takes two then the men should be castrated as well if you want to take that train of thought seriously.

Honestly, you never know on here :S

Well I choose to believe some of these opinion are trolling attempts anyway otherwise I would despair to much :hehe:

Thats probably the best way actually...this will be my plan for the future :laugh:

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im sooooo naughty
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Listen you, you were supposed to be turning over a new leaf :fist:

you know i try my hardest to be good. :hee:

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Very useful comments here, full of insight.

They're not babies within the time frame of abortions by choice. Like I said before, they are just a collection of cells that can't support life at that stage. It's like accusing someone of murder for clipping their nails.

Your second paragraph is naive beyond belief. Trump is trying to reppeal the affordable healthcare act so the act of having a baby would result in a lot of medical bills, are you saying it's a good idea to force women into debt just to have a baby that they don't want that will likely grow up in a harsh system? It's highly ironic that you call pro-choice people immoral considering....

They are indeed.

In the UK the time limit for abortion is 24 weeks.Although i'm all for people having the right to choose.After going to two 12 and 20 week scans it does make me uncomfortable that we allow abortions that late into a pregnancy.I do think the time limit should be drastically lower.

Yeah totally agree with that

I do agree that the upper limit could be done with being lowered as I believe a child can survive at 24 weeks but I don't think it's a major issue since most abortions happen early on anyway.