that would be achieved via control orders, restricting their movement.

Parents definitely and maybe grandparents too. It offers some protection for true British citizens. - those of us who do respect and value the country of our birth and don't go around murdering those with different views and don't incite the hate and murder of our fellow citizens.

Only in your super sensitive PC mind.

Deported to where if they were born here; and why would those countries want them.

So I'm assuming you agree that all criminals who are British born, or have British born parents or grandparents, should be deported from other countries back to the UK?

:nono: Personal insults, play nice.

Only in your super sensitive PC mind. That's just a 'polite' way of trying to shut me down again with 'racist' allegations.

I am just trying to demonstrate that these terrorists have both physical and emotional ties to their parents homeland - that is blatantly obvious by their actions, and it wouldn't be like deporting them to somewhere where they had no links or sense of belonging. Not they would even deserve that consideration.

If they commit heinous crime then yes of course. It most definitely should work across the board.

When you put someone on a plane out of this country, you need to have agreement of the receiving country else they will be refused entry to the destination country and sent straight back.

I could say I had an affinity with Australia ... you must therefore let me in .... not going to happen :laugh:

It's quite simple if they are British,lock them up.

If dual citizenship was a condition of migration - the other country could not refuse to take them surely.

Brillo's solution to Britain's terror problems: "Change the entire world and international law to suit Britain!!"

I think many Western countries may well start to think along those lines in the future as it would make sense and be in their best interests given the way things are going.

And probably not just Western countries either - people want to protect their citizens and as terrorism increases around the workd it may be a way forward for everyone.

If European countries for instance are going to be forced by the EU to take in millions of people from other parts of the world they need something to protect their current citizens from a potential future clash of cultural and religous views that may lead to even more terrorist activity.

But you can't force a country that they're not a citizen of to take a criminal, that's ridiculous. If the american police phoned up Britain and said "hey we have this serial killer here who's granny was British and we don't want him anymore so we're sending him over there" What do you think "Britain" would say? lol or would you all have a choice because you're better countries then them desert ones over there?

As already mentioned in the thread if they had dual citizenship as a condition of migration we could.

But they don't so that's moot point

They could do in the future - and maybe it could be done retrospectively.

and how far down the lines are you suggesting? :think:

As I said definitely parents and maybe grandparents. It would then place some accountability and responsibility on parents etc to do their best to ensure that they and their children respect and value the country they chose to live in/were born into. What's wrong with that.

What you're suggesting is logistically impossible / is never going to happen, Brillo... whether you think it's the best idea in the world or not, it's complete fantasy. It's up there with "We could build a prison colony on Mars and send them all there!". I feel like you probably need to let it go.

For every nationality living in Britain or just the brown ones? And presumably all the countries that have have British immigrants would do the same to them then?

Hardly - how can you compare dual citizenship with a prison colony on Mars. Dual citizenship is something that already exists, and there is no reason why it could not apply to migrants as well. The other is Star Trek.

I already stated in a question asked but TS that it should apply across the board not just to 'brown ones' - a bit below the belt for you Niamh.

Maybe so, I just find some of the comments in this thread and the other one discussing this subject so hysterical and awful, I'm really shocked tbh

These are difficult times - we are all angry.

Yes that's understandable but you can't punish people because of their religion just incase they might be a terrorist

red haired people and left handers have got to go ..... back to ireland, its all their fault :laugh:

Did you know that Red heads actually originated in Central Asia so if we're going that far back, they're going to have to go there I'm afraid

Did I say that. But I think those convicted of terrorists acts should be sent back after their sentence was served here if they had a dual passport and perhaps those that the intelligence services know are involved in terrorism but don't quite have the evidence required, which is pretty stiff in this country, to get a conviction as they pose a Hugh risk to the rest of us.

I never said anything about deporting people based on their religious beliefs alone.

But you want to go back through generations of immigrants and basically take away their citizenship. Also, why would the country they came from even agree to that. It makes no sense

Sorry Niamh but this is a serious issue and all our lives are affected by it and I don't see why we should all have to live in fear in order to preserve the rights of terrorists which is what it amounts to.

No one is trying to "preserve the rights of the terrorist" what are you actually on about?

Only a generation or two for those that commit terrorist acts and murder people. Many of these Terrorists spend half their time in these counties anyway so I really don't see what the problem is.

They are murderers and will always pose a risk. Surely the safety of the many over the rights of the few should prevail.

Their rights as British citizens not to be deported. What do you have against dual citizenship as a means of overcoming that issue for those that pose the biggest risk. I really don't get it.

OMG it's not their right not to be deported it's the country who they're not even a citizen ofs right not to just take a criminal off your hands, jesus how is that hard to understand. Britain isn't in charge of the world, they can't just tell other countries they have to take their criminals because the criminals granny came from there :laugh:

Yes they can, we're Great ****ing Britain! We'll send the dirty immigrants wherever we like! And if they were born here, we'll send them to one of those weird Asian countries you see on the news! We're taking back control! Fish and chips for everyone so long as you're not a terrorist! Refugee scum! EU scum! Benefits scum! Rule ****in' Britannia! :cheer2:

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I think i need to bow out of this thread now for my own sake and sanity

Exaggeration and putting words in people's mouths as usual. What does that achieve - nothing.

If you want to live amongst known terrorists that is your choice but guess what most don't and we have to live here too. Your views don't just affect you but everyone else as well. So you know what you can do with your inflammatory allegations don't you!

Are there no ISIS terrorists in Britain then, are none of us at risk of harm - or is it all just a figment of my hateful imagination. Waste of time.

okay

I don't know if you've noticed, Brillo, but there are actually people in those other countries too :think:. Apparently you think it's "safer for the many" to deport them to another country and say "Oh well lol whatever they're not here now" than it is to keep them where we can actually keep an eye on them...

Are you trying to say we have no terrorists amongst us. You can 'okay' to hell and back but if you can't answer a straight question with a straight answer then your allegations are everything you are trying to accuse me of.