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user104658 30-11-2017 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9715575)
probation is 3 months

Not necessarily, it's not a fixed period across all jobs. Probationary period at mine lasts basically until you are signed off as competent (job title changes to drop the "Trainee" prefix), usually around 4 - 6 months but I've seen people go to 8+...

Ashley. 30-11-2017 09:13 PM

If you can't deal with working through the night, then don't. Find a job that better suits you.

user104658 30-11-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9715313)
Basically i work 6 days 5 overnights then on the last day i finish at 7 in the morning and have to be back in at 6 the same day

**** that! Find a new job :umm2:

Denver 30-11-2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9715740)
**** that! Find a new job :umm2:

Im already looking but i know ill have to take a pay cut so i want it to be worth it

Kizzy 30-11-2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9715733)
Not necessarily, it's not a fixed period across all jobs. Probationary period at mine lasts basically until you are signed off as competent (job title changes to drop the "Trainee" prefix), usually around 4 - 6 months but I've seen people go to 8+...

If you are taken on as a temp they have 12 weeks and then take you on or get rid

AnnieK 30-11-2017 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9715745)
If you are taken on as a temp they have 12 weeks and then take you on or get rid

Not necessarily if you are an agency temp, I have temps who have been on assignment for months and years. After 12 weeks you get some employment rights, access to some benefits such as canteens etc, same holidays and parity of pay but they don't have to tale you on or get rid

DrunkerThanMoses 30-11-2017 09:22 PM

Cant you ask to switch to day shifts? Where I work someone has just switched from nights to days and someone else switched from days to nights

user104658 30-11-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9715745)
If you are taken on as a temp they have 12 weeks and then take you on or get rid

Temping is a totally different situation to a trainee / probationary period. With the latter you have a permanent employment contract, but with fewer limitations on the reasons you can be let go, i.e. you can be found to just not be capable of carrying out the role. Once you're "signed off" as no longer a trainee the employer is basically saying that they acknowledge your general competence in the role, and therefore they need a "good reason" to terminate your employment.

However NM is entirely right that if a company wants you gone they will find a bull**** "good reason", or more often, just make the job so unpleasant that people quit before they're fired. They call it "managing people out of the company" and it's sadly the most common way of "firing" staff - if the staff member quits, the company has no liability at all.

Denver 30-11-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses (Post 9715749)
Cant you ask to switch to day shifts? Where I work someone has just switched from nights to days and someone else switched from days to nights

I asked and i kept getting bare with me things will change soon almost 6 months in nothing has changed

user104658 30-11-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9715751)
I asked and i kept getting bare with me things will change soon almost 6 months in nothing has changed

As a manager, I can confirm that "bare with me" means "I might get around to it but tbh I'm probably not going to do anything about this".

Kizzy 30-11-2017 10:34 PM

Wait till you've been there 26 weeks then ask to work flexibly

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1616

user104658 30-11-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9715916)
Wait till you've been there 26 weeks then ask to work flexibly

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1616

I'd suggest being wary of official flexible working agreements as you can end up "locking yourself in" with your own requests, i.e. If your circumstances change in future you might find yourself unable to, ironically, be flexible because of your agreement.

Babayaro. 30-11-2017 10:56 PM

Where do you work, Adam?

Kizzy 30-11-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9715940)
I'd suggest being wary of official flexible working agreements as you can end up "locking yourself in" with your own requests, i.e. If your circumstances change in future you might find yourself unable to, ironically, be flexible because of your agreement.

Why are you addressing everything to me?... this is not my thread jeeeze, just trying to find the guy a way off nights get off my back :/

Kizzy 30-11-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 9715748)
Not necessarily if you are an agency temp, I have temps who have been on assignment for months and years. After 12 weeks you get some employment rights, access to some benefits such as canteens etc, same holidays and parity of pay but they don't have to tale you on or get rid

Nope, you have access to those from day one.

4. Equal treatment

From the day you start work you have a worker’s employment rights.

You also have the same rights as your permanent colleagues to use any shared facilities and services provided by your employer, for example:

a canteen or food and drinks machines
a workplace creche or mother and baby room
car parking or transport services, like a local pick-up service or transport between sites.

Rights after 12 weeks
After 12 weeks in the job you qualify for the same rights as someone employed directly. This is known as ‘equal treatment’.

Your rights include:

‘equal pay’ - the same pay as a permanent colleague doing the same job
automatic pension enrolment
paid annual leave

https://www.gov.uk/agency-workers-yo...-agency-worker


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