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Alf 15-05-2018 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9995309)
It clearly is the greatest. It's not the funniest or the most consistent or even necessarily my own personal favourite; but that's not the question. There simply isn't another sitcom that has been the same international and intergenerational phenomenon or even close.
Sgt Bilko
Cheers
The Monkees
Happy Days
Simpsons
Cosby Show
The Beverley Hillbillies
Rosanne
M*A*S*H
The Munsters
The Adams Family
Fresh Prince
Golden Girls
Taxi
Mork and Mindy
Diff'rent Strokes
Bewitched

All just as internationally phenomenal as Friends, in some cases bigger.

GiRTh 15-05-2018 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9995424)
Sgt Bilko
Cheers
The Monkees
Happy Days
Simpsons
Cosby Show
The Beverley Hillbillies
Rosanne
M*A*S*H
The Munsters
The Adams Family
Fresh Prince
Golden Girls
Taxi
Mork and Mindy
Diff'rent Strokes
Bewitched

All just as internationally phenomenal as Friends, in some cases bigger.
Totally forgot about Bilko. If I was naming my top sitcoms of all time, Bilko makes my top five possibly top three. Brilliant programme. Yeah there are shots where you can see the boom mic hanging from the ceiling but it was the first truly great sitcom on either side of the Atlantic.

Alf 15-05-2018 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 9995429)
Totally forgot about Bilko. If I was naming my top sitcoms of all time, Bilko makes my top five possibly top three. Brilliant programme. Yeah there are shots where you can see the boom mic hanging from the ceiling but it was the first truly great sitcom on either side of the Atlantic.
That's why I put it at the top of the list.

MTVN 15-05-2018 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9995309)
It clearly is the greatest. It's not the funniest or the most consistent or even necessarily my own personal favourite; but that's not the question. There simply isn't another sitcom that has been the same international and intergenerational phenomenon or even close.
Agree with this. I don't think any other sitcom matches it for it's popularity and it's impact

Alf 15-05-2018 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9995437)
Agree with this. I don't think any other sitcom matches it for it's popularity and it's impact
In your life time or ever?

When was the last time Friends was a regular on one of the four main UK channels BBC1, BBC2, ITV or Channel 4?

MTVN 15-05-2018 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9995438)
In your life time or ever?

When was the last time Friends was a regular on one of the four main UK channels BBC1, BBC2, ITV or Channel 4?
Certainly my lifetime and thats even though no one my age will have started watching it till after it finished. Literally everyone knows about it and could tell you the basic premise despite the fact it hasn't been on one of the four main channels in a while (although can't have been that long ago it was on C4)

Mystic Mock 15-05-2018 12:55 PM
Tbf I've only seen a few episodes of Friends, but it's not as quirky or as fun as shows like Arrested Development, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Community, or Parks & Recreation imo based on what I've seen of the show.

Marsh. 15-05-2018 12:57 PM
24 years old and still a pop culture phenomenon. Surely is the greatest, or at least one of them.

Crimson Dynamo 15-05-2018 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9995443)
Tbf I've only seen a few episodes of Friends, but it's not as quirky or as fun as shows like Arrested Development, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Community, or Parks & Recreation imo based on what I've seen of the show.
No Mock that is not correct

none of the above shows are anywhere close to Friends

not even close

Mokka 15-05-2018 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9995438)
In your life time or ever?

When was the last time Friends was a regular on one of the four main UK channels BBC1, BBC2, ITV or Channel 4?
But Alf, tv viewing has moved on from syndication to Netflix and Crave and any form of streaming. It's being streamed daily in your country by choice... not just because a local station is playing it in a dead time slot

Marsh. 15-05-2018 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 9995451)
But Alf, tv viewing has moved on from syndication to Netflix and Crave and any form of streaming. It's being streamed daily in your country by choice... not just because a local station is playing it in a dead time slot
Only Fools and Horses teas

Mystic Mock 15-05-2018 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9995320)
The ones in bold are brilliant, the rest are entirely limited to the (now ageing) generation that they were aimed at and have not really stood the test of time, other than nostalgically for the people who remember them in their prime, so I don't think are contenders for "true" objective greatness (although everyone is of course entitled to their personal greats).
Tbf I'm 21 and I found Allo Allo funny.:laugh:

Mystic Mock 15-05-2018 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9995450)
No Mock that is not correct

none of the above shows are anywhere close to Friends

not even close
They may not be as popular, but their style of humour is more to my style as I'm not into the OTT Rom-Com elements of shows like Friends.

Alf 15-05-2018 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9995320)
The ones in bold are brilliant, the rest are entirely limited to the (now ageing) generation that they were aimed at and have not really stood the test of time, other than nostalgically for the people who remember them in their prime, so I don't think are contenders for "true" objective greatness (although everyone is of course entitled to their personal greats).
Dad's Army is still Saturday night prime time television on BBC2 to this day. It was even prime time on Christmas day just gone. They finished making them 41 years ago.

Tony Montana 15-05-2018 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9995438)
In your life time or ever?

When was the last time Friends was a regular on one of the four main UK channels BBC1, BBC2, ITV or Channel 4?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9995442)
Certainly my lifetime and thats even though no one my age will have started watching it till after it finished. Literally everyone knows about it and could tell you the basic premise despite the fact it hasn't been on one of the four main channels in a while (although can't have been that long ago it was on C4)
It Ended on Channel 4 in 2011

James 15-05-2018 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by James (Post 9994972)
One of the best I think, but it went on too long. It declined when Chandler and Monica moved in together.

I only got into it later (with repeats) - I didn't like the look of it when it started.

I haven't watched American sitcoms much - I think the only other ones I watched were Happy Days and Larry Sanders.



A lot of those are classics. I've watched about half of them. Apart from Dads' Army and Fawlty Towers I haven't watched 70s and earlier sitcoms.
Also seen Porridge.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9995320)
The ones in bold are brilliant, the rest are entirely limited to the (now ageing) generation that they were aimed at and have not really stood the test of time, other than nostalgically for the people who remember them in their prime, so I don't think are contenders for "true" objective greatness (although everyone is of course entitled to their personal greats).
I came across an episode of Allo Allo recently and thought it actually stood up.

LaLaLand 15-05-2018 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9995443)
Tbf I've only seen a few episodes of Friends, but it's not as quirky or as fun as shows like Arrested Development, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Community, or Parks & Recreation imo based on what I've seen of the show.
Now THERE'S one of the best of all time!

Tony Montana 15-05-2018 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9995309)
It clearly is the greatest. It's not the funniest or the most consistent or even necessarily my own personal favourite; but that's not the question. There simply isn't another sitcom that has been the same international and intergenerational phenomenon or even close.
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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9995437)
Agree with this. I don't think any other sitcom matches it for it's popularity and it's impact
Yeah I also Agree with this. Whether or Not you think it's the GOAT Sitcom, (I Easily Think it is) it still is at least top 5 and You can't deny the Pop Culture Phenomenon and Legacy it Achieved. Its impact on Television was deeper and still is. No Show Comes close IMO. Fantastic Post, Toy Soldier

Marsh. 15-05-2018 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9995480)
Dad's Army is still Saturday night prime time television on BBC2 to this day. It was even prime time on Christmas day just gone.
No wonder viewing figures are on the floor.

50 year old repeats on a loop.

Marsh. 16-05-2018 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 9995364)
That episode in particular, where all the random plot line come together at the end, is definitely in the Seinfeld style.
1 plotline and 1 running joke.

That's pretty standard sitcom stuff.

The rather random background running joke to pay off with a big joke at the end by colliding with the episode's main plot.

That aint Seinfeld exclusive.

Marsh. 16-05-2018 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9995424)
Sgt Bilko
Cheers
The Monkees
Happy Days
Simpsons
Cosby Show
The Beverley Hillbillies
Rosanne
M*A*S*H
The Munsters
The Adams Family
Fresh Prince
Golden Girls
Taxi
Mork and Mindy
Diff'rent Strokes
Bewitched

All just as internationally phenomenal as Friends, in some cases bigger.
Except the shine wore off some of those, not many stand alongside Friends as still being so popular.

Some of them ruined their own legacy by keeping going decades passed their prime, aka The Simpsons.

Friends and a few of the others know that you very rarely strike that magic twice so haven't jumped on the reunion train and, rightly, left them as they were.

As for the Cosby Show, well....

Alf 16-05-2018 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9995923)
No wonder viewing figures are on the floor.

50 year old repeats on a loop.
They wouldn't need to be if we still made good sitcoms these days. Sadly, we've turned into a fragile nation that finds good comedy offensive and there are too many people unable to be mocked.

So those of us that seek to just laugh at life, have to go back through the archives to find our pleasure, and some people are happy to just take Simon Cowell or whatever else they dish up.

Marsh. 16-05-2018 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9995931)
They wouldn't need to be if we still made good sitcoms these days. Sadly, we've turned into a fragile nation that finds good comedy offensive and there are too many people unable to be mocked.

So those of us that seek to just laugh at life, have to go back through the archives to find our pleasure, and some people are happy to just take Simon Cowell or whatever else they dish up.
Plenty quality sitcoms/shows get made. You just have to look for them. The TV industry isn't confined to three channels anymore. If you're looking for classic after classic on the same two channels these days you will be let down.

Anyway, nope, quality of sitcoms isn't really the problem since the schedules being filled with repeats has been a problem for a very, very long time.

Mystic Mock 16-05-2018 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonnii (Post 9995912)
Now THERE'S one of the best of all time!
Who's your favourite character? I love them all but I think that my favourite is Gob.

Mystic Mock 16-05-2018 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9995931)
They wouldn't need to be if we still made good sitcoms these days. Sadly, we've turned into a fragile nation that finds good comedy offensive and there are too many people unable to be mocked.

So those of us that seek to just laugh at life, have to go back through the archives to find our pleasure, and some people are happy to just take Simon Cowell or whatever else they dish up.
The IT Crowd was a very good Sitcom I thought out of our recent efforts.

Peter File is still one of the best jokes in a Comedy imo.

LaLaLand 16-05-2018 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9995965)
Who's your favourite character? I love them all but I think that my favourite is Gob.
Oh it's got to be Lucille! Just incredible.

Mystic Mock 16-05-2018 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonnii (Post 9995969)
Oh it's got to be Lucille! Just incredible.
I love Lucille too, especially her dynamic with Buster.:joker:

Alf 16-05-2018 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9995966)
The IT Crowd was a very good Sitcom I thought out of our recent efforts.

Peter File is still one of the best jokes in a Comedy imo.
I tried it once, I watched two episodes and wasn't enjoying it, so stopped. I might give it another go sometime. My best mate loves it, he's always banging on about it.

The Detectorists is probably the best recent sitcom I've seen.

Alf 16-05-2018 12:43 PM
They don't make em' like Mrs Slocombe anymore


Youtube video

Tony Montana 16-05-2018 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9995367)
Yes well, Seinfeld had no Chandler :idc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PANRt1cHKl4

Alf 16-05-2018 04:08 PM
A bit of Alf


Youtube video

rusticgal 16-05-2018 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 9995238)
The office (UK) is clearly the greatest comedy of all time.

The BEST uk sitcom ever....but like everything else it was marmite..people either loved it or hated it. In fact...I didn't much like it at first..so awkward to watch...then it just grew on me. It's brilliantly done.
Friends is my favourite though.

andybigbro 16-05-2018 05:10 PM
Yes :clap1:

Tony Montana 16-05-2018 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by andybigbro (Post 9996556)
Yes :clap1:
Glad you Agree, Andy

LaLaLand 16-05-2018 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9996058)
I love Lucille too, especially her dynamic with Buster.:joker:
Haha yes!

"Where my bed!?"

"I put it in storage... I guess you'll have to decided WHICH Lucille you want to spend your nights with..." :laugh::laugh:

Season 5 starts in a week or two, I made a thread in the TV section!

Alf 17-05-2018 12:13 AM
Friends didn't have Victor, so how can it be the best?


Youtube video

Alf 17-05-2018 08:29 PM
Joey vs Frank? It's not even a contest.


Youtube video

Daniel. 17-05-2018 08:34 PM
1. Absolutely Fabulous
2. Keeping Up Appearances
3. Friends
4. Birds Of A Feather
5. Bad Education

mizzy25 17-05-2018 09:19 PM
adore friends, have the box set so can watch over and over :cheer2:

Tony Montana 17-05-2018 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mizzy25 (Post 9998242)
adore friends, have the box set so can watch over and over :cheer2:
Another Friends fan:worship:


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