are you sure

Big Brother is for women and gays and here you are x

"In the past few months, I’ve had many conversations about drag’s newest audience, and not just with other queens. Last week, I talked with a contact on Drag Race network Logo’s social media team, who shared his perspective on condition of anonymity. “I spoke with our research team, and they said that the demographics of users are hard to track because the data is unreliable,” he told me. “People make fan accounts and profiles with misleading ages and such.” Even so, it’s hard not to see that young female fans match gay male fans almost one to one. “From what I’ve seen,” my source said, “the demographics seem to be pretty split between younger female teenage fans and gay men from their 20s to 40s.”"

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...a=gdpr-consent

From the producers of Drag Race

its not though..... i watch it with my 14 year old heterosexual sister and my 49 year old mum and they both adore it. its not a gay only event its for people who want to celebrate diversty. im not even gay man im bi

They stole it and ruined it.:fist:

Well i guess fag hags(a gay guy and his were ok with that term when i was talking to them)and gay men go hand in hand.

so that is a no

but its principle audience is gay men, obviously not exclusively as that would be impossible and indeed noncommercial as there as so few around

they dont go hand in hand parmy or they get clobbered, according to the gay folks on Tibb that is

Again, not true but it doens't really matter. What does Drag Race have to do with this story? The only strenuous link is the ignorant head teacher reaching for an excuse for her hypocrisy by saying that Drag isn't age appropriate because a TV show only allows for adults to participate in it.

I agree with this a a general point.

But not seeing how drag necessarily means this is sexual. If the choreography was like burlesque or whatever then yeah, but given the other teachers OKed it I doubt it was.

I also kind of see where parmnion is coming from as I recall this conversation on here before and actually being referred to as 'womanface', and I did actually agree that drag was kind of sexist until; that convo, as I was of the opinion that all drag was parodying and taking the piss out of women, like the only drag acts I had seen up until that stage.

This kid has drag as a hobby, its not really that different to dancing or something. Except its done in makeup and 'womens clothes' (though arguably what on earth are 'womens clothes' to start with. Stereotypes, not absolute.)

I can see no issue here at all. Though I DO have a bit of an issue with that drag queen who is 8, Lacatiaia or something hes called. I find that creepy and definitely a thing pushed on him by his parents at that age. And from what I have seen of him, very sexual also. Which should ring alarm bells in a child that age.

why are you now insulting an innocent head teacher?


i just dont get it?

i have watched it before and i’m straight so gtf out of here with that bull****

So you're basically denying a quote that shows what you are saying is wrong because you don't want to admit you are wrong.

yes and you are the exception to the rule

do you understand what that means in that context?

yes

Maybe little johnny just wasnt very good and the head was saving his blushes and future ridicule.

"the demographics of users are hard to track because the data is unreliable"

Because the teacher is an ignorant hypocrite that preaches inclusiveness in her bull**** statement while denying a kid's performance that was previously okayed by members of the staff because of her own rampant ignorance.

It's worrying such an unprofessional and ignorant person is in charge of a school.

probably true

teachers can be very kind like that

Yes, his teacher probably had a word.

wow

that is just horrible


just horrible

wait so you said it’s a programme for gay people ONLY now you’re backtracking because you have recognised your own fault.

why not just admit that?

Go back a re-read my friend, i was referring to the DRSF on Tibb

stand down

But they have provided more reasoning and context for believing that the viewing audience is diverse. You have demanded evidence yet you have provided nothing to back up your own views.

Your whole argument is basically;

'What I'm saying is the truth, if you challenge it you must give me evidence of the contrary but I still will deny it while offering nothing in the wya of proof or context to my own claims.'

LT, if you are going to demand people to qualify their views then you better be ready to qualify what you are saying as well. You've undone yourself with your own logic and standards.

Not as horrible as defending blackface but :shrug:

i went and had a reread. i found the post i was referring to.

well done Sherlock that is exactly right

:thumbs:

With make up, wig and clothes to imporsonate your favourite performer.

Like little johnathon did..im on your side.:shrug:

I disagree tbh, I don't think the act of drag is demeaning. It's not intended to mock women especially considering that women can also be drag queens as well. It's less to do with demeaning women and more to do with becoming someone else for a while and embodying someone larger than life.

Blackface was created to enforce stereotypes and to make black people seem less worthy of being equal.

Good.

so you said it was for gay people only, you can’t say things like that

He donned a silver wig, high heels and make up to impersonate the black drag act rupaul and everyones cool with that......but i cant do the same for bob marley...now thats daft.

If the makeup involves blackface then that makes it inherently wrong.

i don't think you can compare it to say, contouring your face to make it look more narrow or shapely.

people can dress up as black characters, they just need to leave the black facepaint alone.

the sub forum yes, yes i can, there may be the odd non gay but then there is the odd gay in the footy forum as well like Shaun.

Where does it say he was impersonating Rupaul? Doesn't say that anywhere from what I can see.

But like it's been said to you a few times now, people can dress up as black characters, it's when they get out the black facepaint that things cross the line.

...so what’s been said then...is that a drag queen act in a school talent show is fine and dandy so long as blackface is allowed as well...I mean that’s the only objection, that there has to be both...?...the concern appeared to be about inappropriate sexual content...but that concern wouldn’t be a thing so long as blackface/racist content is allowed...


...I’m really struggling to understand this completely...

Im sure the same look can be achieved with make up...but that would be ok with you?..for gay johnny..to impersonate a black bloke with make up to make him look like this bloke, cause the blokes gay.

people do realise that drag isn't just drag race? just because drag race as a show is quite sexual (not in the way 14 year old boys cant handle but) doesn't mean drag inherently is. drag race though is a good resource is in no way a portraytion of drag so saying drag is just for gay people is ridiculous my best friend is a biological heterosexual woman and does drag. drag has no boundries mate and shouldn't be compared to an incredibly racist act which purpose is to mock people of colour

this entire thread is incredibly confusing

For kids in school who seemingly dont judge people..which is backed up by half the contestants pulling out in solidarity..then using wigs, make up and clothing to impersonate someone who has inspired you should be allowed....like johnny did and i do.