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the only thing what i'm against are the hardcore smug full of themselves brexiteers (which is unnecessary) UK wants more to say in the EU, well you gotta fight for that power i say time to step things up and start making good choices with the upcoming EU elections, no cowardly brexit but show your strength within EU some more working closer together you can achieve more than on your own |
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that said, most still are good quality singers despite getting older :hee: |
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I'm going to watch this on catch up... |
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The hard core smug full of themselves bexiteers...omgoodness....nicky you really need to watch part one of this show if they are the people you think are smug. |
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There were 3 main points that they were bothered about....in order from 3 to 1....the Irish border...that the uk says will not change and it didn't mind losing money from lack off it in the future...the uk wanting control of its own borders..which is fine...like you wouldn't let strangers decide who comes through your front to plonk themselves on your settee.....and 1...of course is the divorce settlement..... After watching, we should just tell them to piss off. |
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Just got my vote Brexit leaflet thru the door
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One came through our door the other day, it went straight in the bin :flutter:
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Whatever you think of Farage, he is a master at pushing himself forward, he manufactured that argument with Marr yesterday to make himself look anti-establishment, Marr couldn't handle him
I think the other parties have given up already in the face of what is almost undoubtedly be a landslide against them |
i found it interesting that the lib dems did very well in the council elections and I think they will do very well in the EU elections. Not one single political commentator tied their success to the fact people want to remain in the EU, which is clearly the case. I fully expect the Brexit party to do well in a protest vote .... of course the will .... but I also think the lib dems will do extremely well too.
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https://www.pscp.tv/w/1PlJQLonNbyGE
29 mins of the amazing Live interview. Ch4HDnews need to ask LBC Global if they can show some of this. |
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You Are Most Wise Cherie |
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God bless you nigel.
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Just got a Tommy Robinson leaflet through the door with the post...... He has called Farage a "millionaire stockbroker who looks down on the working classes"
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Pasting this here as its probably the longest Brexit type post I have done and it seems to fit somewhat.. I still have no ****ing clue how on earth people thought we could just ditch the bad parts of being in the EU, and keep the good bits, maybe make the good bits even better! Why the hell would the EU agree to that?! Its just..insane, but so many were convinced that it could happen and some still seem convinced, while others just rage about how 'we' voted leave so just crash out with no deal at all and **** the consequences (despite every leaver I know voting leave whilst thinking we would get a trade deal..and saying they would change that if its no deal because we were basically promised some sort of deal:S ). It is just a huge steaming pile of crap really. The only way I see out of it is another vote, allowing those who did vote under false pretences (and lies were told on both sides, just seemingly more of them on the leave side) to have their say. As so many leavers voted thinking a deal would be done, then surely, a vote of 'leave with no deal' or 'dont leave' makes sense, and theres good reason for it. Its not doing it because 'remoaners' dont like the result (though it makes me laugh when Farage goes on about that, given just before the votes were even confirmed he was already going on about how he would push for a second vote..obviously assuming stay would win ) its actually so people are actually ****ing informed this time. I have a feeling, that those who wish to plunge us into bigger recession than we have known before and such (ah yes, project fear..ignore the experts) will be in the minority tbh. I was dead against another vote for ages too. But it really does seem to me to be the only way. EU won't keep granting us extensions, and leaving us in permanent limbo is stupid. The issue I see here, with the brexit party, is that basically, votes for all others will be split, whilst those who are actually desperate for us to crash out with no plans/preperations made will all concentrate on one party. And then, as I understand it, it still needs to be voted on by the MPs anyway? So this is a single issue party, who cannot even do the one thing they claim to be going to do? Either way mind, I am kind of glad its all been shaken up a bit. The 'will always be labour or tories; is fairly depressing when both are going/have gone to a pile of utter wank in recent years (or earlier). I honestly think we need everything gone. Scrap all current parties, all current MPs and such, and begin anew. Will never happen mind, but I can dream :D |
Oof. I haven;t read that much about his party, but didn't know they were basically tories on speed when it comes to privatising the NHS :bored: Why so many are against the NHS I will never know, **** having a system where the poor just die unnecessarily as they don't have cash. Yes, there are problems, huge ones that need sorted out. But the idea of just..getting rid and having a private system seems scarily popular..though generally, among those who could easily afford insurance policies (who of course it would not affect. If they want better service they have the option now of paying for it, no need to take the other option for those who do not have that luxury away from them for ****s sake)
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T. Robinson adviser , possible MEP, for the dead party UKIP does not matter |
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I like this new attention to detail Parmy, and I look forward to seeing it in other threads... |
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