Oh don't be daft of course it is.

But that's the point isn't it? Kizzy isn't planning on doing it forever so it's not really as bad as y'all are making it out to be?

Tbf, something doesn't have to be done forever or longterm to be dangerous. :shrug:

NOT you thinking a juice cleanse is dangerous when there's the Coronavirus to worry about!

I never said it was either way. :nono:

That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue :shrug:

As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

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It's up to her what she does with her body but if she is pre diabetic or something she needs a long term fix, that's just my opinion

Everyone is different I suppose but if the doctors are describing how you feel is hangry then sorry I wouldn't have thought they would advocate that as a beneficial state to be in.
I didn't feel hangry. .. I didn't eat but drank regularly to satisfy any cravings and give my digestive system something to process and stop my blood sugars spiking wildly.

It isn't though because it's the norm... whereas in truth it's really dangerous.

Go on... in all seriousness what do you think is dangerous about this juice cleanse surely you have some thing to back up such a claim?... something I can counter with my experience of it.

Of course it's a temporary measure, to rid your body of cravings for sugar, carbs, caffeine.

The real work begins in not reintroducing some foods back into your diet or at least vastly reducing your intake.
And getting motivated to move more.

Thanks! That's exactly right, it's short term restriction of certain food groups, sugars and carbs to reboot your system to not crave them to function any longer.
Reduce inflammation and weight on sore joints or remove viceral fat from round organs.

Again... I never said it was. I was disputing the claim that something can't be dangerous if it's only short term. :hee:

It is though. Just because people do it a lot, doesn't mean everyone doesn't know (and don't have it thrown at them all the time on TV and by doctors/teachers etc) that it's bad for you.

It's like smoking/vaping, people know full well it's dangerous and potentially life threatening, but yeah, people do it.

I agree with the move more, but I think where people fail is avoiding some foods altogether, I think everyone should be able to have a treat as completely cutting out foods is difficult and never works for me anyway

Well I’ve never felt ‘hangry’ in nearly five years of intermittent fasting ..


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For what it’s worth .. this is something I actually fancy trying !!

How long are we talking to reduce my love of bread and sweet stuff ??


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Right so nothing to do with the thread topic ... obviously some things are dangerous even if done short term. Thanks for stating the obvious :hee:

I responded to a post in the thread, so yes it was.

Obvious to you, clearly not the person I was talking to.

It might be thrown at them by doctors but in the general population it's the norm ...go to the pub drink to excess, have a kebab. Nobody bats an eyelid.
Say you're doing a juice cleanse and it's, omg! Your gonna die! :bored:

Im not sure to be honest if you love them like I do you will always want them, but personally I'd say the cravings went after about 4 days. You might feel pretty rubbish at first, headachy and such if you had a lot of caffeine but it passes and then it's fine :)

You did insinuate you were discussing juicing though maybe try make yourself clearer? A generic 'something' is not very helpful.

Update, I've done a month so added in a light evening meal, had scrambled egg yesterday and had a thin turkey steak and a punnet of mushrooms tonight mmmmm :)

No they don't bat an eyelid, but ask them and they know it's bad for them. They do it anyway. That's the point I was making.

I didn't insinuate anything. It wasn't a generic random comment, it was A REPLY to something Caprimint said.

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I experienced that when I went from 7 cuppas a day to zero ... :)


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Do they?... That's subjective. A lot of the few pints and a takeout eaters I know think it's perfectly ok :/

Yes... you didn't commit to whether you thought juicing was dangerous or not in that comment, although the tone of your posts suggests you feel it is. :facepalm:

Care to clarify?

In all seriousness - why would one need to juice cleanse in order to cut carbs and sugar? I generally don't eat empty "glutenny" carbs like bread, pasta, etc. and keep refined sugars low because I do get joint inflammation (shoulders and wrists, mostly) that seems to be drastically reduced when I keep refined carbs away. I've also reduced (though not stopped, too tasty) red meat consumption lately. But I'm not sure what the benefit of the juice cleanse is, over and above just cutting the junk.

The comment speaks for itself in context of the post I quoted.

As does your ridiculous aggressiveness and defensiveness.

Well it is perfectly ok unless they're doing it everyday. :shrug:

Funny how it only became subjective when I gave my perspective but not yours.

My point is people knowingly do things they are fully aware is bad or dangerous all the damn time, it's not about thinking it ok.

Again.. I did the juice cleanse to remove my cravings for sugar and carbs, I removed all sugars so my body used the viseral fat inside me as fuel as I have fatty liver disease so for me that is beneficial.
It will also help me return from my pre diabetic state quicker

One may not need to do it ...for me personally it has helped me immensely already.

That's a no then?...

I found this comment rude and aggressive, try being a little more respectful and tactful in your responses.

Still doing this kizzy? I remember you talking about this years back..

It still makes not much sense to me, however, thats because I do total water fasts instead, and the whole point of that is to get your body into ketosis, which burns fat FAST and leaves alone muscle largely. Where this, would not have that benefit, as the sugar would likely be too high to get into ketosis to start with.

But it seems to help those who try it so...meh. Also I have found, the psychological benefits of fasting in general are amazing. Its quite hard to explain, but I expect those who have done fasts understand what I mean...everythings so..clear. Its weird.

Loads of stuff thats actually rather healthy is written off as a dangerous fad. I know this from my research into water fasting, people see it as starving yourself, which is sort of right, however, you always stop it when you get a sign of true hunger, which oddly, tends not to be til a few WEEKS after starting it, as funnily enough, our bodies are not designed to be fed around the clock, and are actually able to go very long periods of time with no food at all (average body can go about 40 days with nothing bar water..much longer if overweight). It actually fixes a lot of health issues too, which was the main reason I tried it. Didn't fix me, but did lose 2 stone in a week and a half, 5 pounds of which was water weight as came back immediately, rest stayed off.

Fixes a lot of health stuff because again, our bodies naturally repair themselves with certain stuff (seems to help mostly with stuff like acne, but some people have had success with other illnesses too, my cousins swears his IBS is much better and easier to manage after a fast), and with no food, your body has much less work to do as whole digestive system is dormant, so it can get to work trying to fix issues. Its quite amazing really when you read into it, what our bodies can do if given the chance..

And yes, it does cut your cravings for crap.

Kind of a reset button in a way

My diet has been shocking in the past, pretty much living on takeaways and that. After a fast, you crave fresh veg and that for ages. For me, even the thought of a greasy burger made me feel ill for weeks. Eventually I have slipped back sometimes, but its easy to reset again, even just say..5 days fasting. I do plan on doing a 30 day one, to lose all my extra weight at some stage, just..not yet. Bit amibitious, even though the hunger goes around day 3/4, and you get loads of energy from nowhere too..

Of course it's subjective .. you claimed 'they' know it's bad for them, that's not true is it? Some people think it's perfectly acceptable as they only do it once or twice a week.
It's still a dangerous fad..you don't have to be doing something everyday for it to be dangerous or a fad.

Unlike you I don't believe binge drinking and fast food are perfectly ok just because someone isn't doing it everyday :/

Not read the whole thread so not sure what this arguments about but fasting is much better for the body than even the occasional binge drink and kebab night tbh. Our bodies are meant to fast. And its obvious if you think about it..its only recent years where foods been on tap all the time, we used to have to hunt, and that could take forever and we didn't die out. Very long periods of time 'starving' is usual for us as animals, not for us as..well what we are used to, this 2000 calories, 4 meals a day stuff that we have over and over again since birth..

There's nothing wrong with a juice cleanse once in a while as long as it's just that, once in a while. Have heard intermittent fasting is very beneficial too.

I've never done one properly but I can relate to wanting to cut stuff out and get healthier and the like and the benefits are great.

I've lost 8stone 5lbs since the Summer using an app and tracking steps/calories/water with a couple of hours in the gym a week and it's changed my life. Still got about 1.5 stone to go before I'm happy but yeah, can't quite believe I've done it. :joker:

Meh that bit doesn't matter. Waters actually best..so no nutrition at all :p

Obviously its an issue if you basically do it constantly, as thats anorexia really. But as a one off every now and again, even for a few weeks, its fine, unless you have other health issues (prob wouldnt be too safe for diabetics for example..but thats common sense) or are already very underweight.