It's my understanding of it. Opinions vary.

Honestly, the idea that the 95-year-old queen would be annoyed about her grandson naming his child for her nickname is really bizarre. How petty of a person would you have to be, in your twilight years of life, to resent your own grandchild for naming his daughter for you. Are people actually thinking about what they're saying here? Like ... really? No matter what sort of rift or family argument there's been. You really think an old lady is going to think "They're calling her my nickname, hmph I don't like that, that's MY special thing" and not ... "Oh how lovely."

... ?

Bizarre stuff, that the people so intent on defending The Queen and The Monarchy apparently have such a terribly low opinion of Elizabeth as a human being and grandmother :think:.

Exactly it only makes sense if you think the Queen is a horrible person really :laugh:

Excellently put TS.
I agree absolutely.

It's utterly ridiculous.

You are confusing people’s opinions of what THEY think about it with opinions on what they think the Queen herself may think about it. Not one person has even mentioned whether she would be annoyed or otherwise. A common mistake. :laugh:

Because it’s Harry and and Meghan and their obsessive hatred towards them won’t let them be anything other than toxic towards them. It’s incredibly sad and pathetic.

So called "opinion" doesn't come into whether something is factual or not. It is a fact that Philip was NOT and never was the only person to use the nickname.

I said he was nowadays. Her father, mother and sister also used it. It isn't fact, only hearsay and opinion, that anyone else did.

I know you did. Still incorrect.

Either way it's a pretty name

The queen's father, King George VI, affectionally gave her the nickname Lilibet as a small child, and the only person to reportedly call her this name in recent years was her late husband Prince Philip.

Correct.

Considering it looks now like there will be a lawsuit over claims that the BBC made that they didn't ask permission and Harry said they did, its tie the Queen stepped up and releases an official statement to confirm or deny the claims.

It's clear Harry and Meghan have few fans within the Palace but if incorrect leaks are coming out to paint them in a bad light, it needs clarification from the top.

That way it ends speculation and gossip and lets the new parents enjoy their daughter.

It's not the first time the BBC have embarrassed themselves , they have very little integrity or morals.

And as for the tabloid rags , I never pay any attention to them .

:umm2: so you’re annoyed on the queens behalf about them using her nickname... regardless of what the queen herself thinks about it?

Strangerer and strangerer.

You SURELY must concede that if Elizabeth is not annoyed, then there is no issue?

Markle has got lawyers to fire off warning letter to BBC because they said Queen did not know about name. Would it not have been less aggressive to just get the Queen to release a statement?

Already the kid is s few days old and she is threatening people with legal action

:facepalm:

The Queen shouldn't have to waste her time on such pettiness and people getting offended on her behalf.

The Palace knew this was brewing and could have released a statement but chose to stay quiet fuelling the fire. As I said up the page, they can put this to bed with a statement from the top and not an "unknown royal source" :shrug:

It needs to come from the queen otherwise it's not verifiable and just a "he said, she said"

I agree with you I don't know why harry did not just ask the pace rather than getting legals involved?

Totally agree with this.

It's ridiculous that a Great Grandmother, no matter who they were would allow this pathetic obsessive speculation of a negative form, to gather pace for the sake of her saying she is overjoyed or not, at her new Great Granddaughter and the name she has been given.

This is the problem with the whole Royal institutional set up.

What a welcome to her new Great Granddaughter that she does nothing personally to thwart those looking for nothing but negatives.

Someone get Liz on Twitters. I think it would be very enlightening.

“Saw more trash about my family in The Daily Mail today. Fake news! Sad!”

How bad is the relationship with Harry and his Grandmother?! Couldn't he just give her call.

Everything going on in world right now and this crap gets centre of attention. I wish the press wouldn't cover it, and Harry and Meghan would just go have their private life they wanted when leaving the royal family. All as bad as each other.

"...get the Queen to..."

:laugh2:

They do call, regularly according to them.

Tabloids and "sources" making up lies and stirring the pot is hardly on them.

Pick up phone

Call granny

Get her lady to type of few words

What is so funny,?

It's more and more apparent that the root of all the trouble is the "institution" rather than the family themselves. They're pissed off that Harry told them where to go and now they've left they're still sticking the knife in at any oppportunity.

"Get her to..."

:joker:

Oh for christ sake, stop acting like Harry and Meghan are oppressed and victims in all this circus crap. They're in the top tier most privileged people in the world. I can't stand the royals, and that includes 'ex' royals who want to keep their titles, but don't paint Harry and Meghan as victims here, it's simply not case.

People say their criticism is obsessive, but so is their defence.

Where did I defend them? I actually defended the Royal family in the post you quote. Calm down. I merely spoke of the institution and their insistence on releasing statements via "Palace sources" to undermine every little thing that happens.

Blaming either the Royal family or Harry and Meghan everytime the tabloids run with rumours and stories fuelled by unnamed sources is dumb.

Not sure why the angry outburst tbh nobody's forcing you to engage in the topic.

maybe the BBC got a tip off that is why they ran with it

A tip off from a 100% source

Exactly...don't some say she talks to Harry nearly every day. Not that I believe that...

Yeah because it makes sense to start legal action against a story she knows to be true? Sure.

when diana died, there was all sorts of crap. The public were expecting the royal institution to kick into play and have a respectful mourning period. The institution was blamed, but it was specifically the queen that would not allow the flag on the palace to be flown at half mast etc. It was only after extreme public pressure that she relented. If that story about Harry not asking for permission came from the palace, it came from the queen. Thats the kind of person she is. They could have settled things down by saying nothing, but they chose to ramp it up a notch. I don't know how that type of behaviour can be defended.

The queen was bullied into making a statement when all she was trying to do was protect the 2 boys.

A fair assessment but when these sources are unnamed and unverifiable it leaves the press and other open to stirring meaning we still wouldn't know either way.

What is more institutional in this Country than the royal family?

Right, are you going to address anything I said in the post you chose to quote or are you scrambling for a topic that will stick?

People can be annoyed about whatever they want and have opinions on it. Nothing strange about that.

Im saying the institution in this country is the royal family, or at least it's centred around them. So when you say the 'institution' regarding this matter, who are you referring to exactly?

You can say the press as they would fall under the 'institution' but when don't they fuel any fire, regarding anything?!

What Harry and Meghan need to accept is it works both ways, they can't have it all their own way. Using the press for photo ops in Uganda with starving kids is all good and well, celebs do this often to promote their own brand, but they can't turn around and have a tantrum at every time the press are critical of them either.

The institution is the "business" side, very different from the "the family". I would imagine most senior Royals know very little of what goes on day to day, HR issues, hiring and firing of staff, daily running of the homes etc etc. They have staff for that....same as any business.