Why should they pay with their lives?to make money for humans ?

Why should humans who die on the job to make money for humans? They do it so that they can have a roof over their head and food in their belly. The race horses do the same.

I know I'm in the minority here Jet along with you and Joey, but no one will convince me any animal should be a money making machine .

What tripe.
No I don't want any animals extinct..
Even without ALL racing Horses wouldn't be extinct or even near to being and you know that surely.

I'll leave it there because Kazanne has said just about all I was intending to as to your post.

How on earth can wanting the fullest protection for any animals, be wanting to make them extinct.
Really, for goodness sake.

[QUOTE=Alf;11281235]Why should humans who die on the job to make money for humans? They do it so that they can have a roof over their head and food in their belly. Th
race horses do the same.[/QUOTE

Horses don't have that thought complex Alf, they don't know any difference,they are forced to race.

I have nothing personal against Horse Racing as a concept, but I really don't like how big the fences can be at the Grand National.

Nearly every year they try to tell us they've made the course safer.

Yet still deaths continue.
Because they haven't and it's just lip service deceit.

I agree the fences always have been and remain still, way too high plus there's way too many of them too in my view.

Then people who know this and set out to highlight same, end up getting arrested.
Shameful.

Race should have been cancelled.


50 quid it cost me to kill one horse.

Alf, LT and me are the true animal lovers here I think :love:

Hull, brummie and red nose day fans favourite rangers.yes, you 3 love you're animals. True.

https://news.sky.com/story/grand-nat...ourse-12857807

3 Horses Died
Official Count.

A sad loss/

Tbh, if horses were set free, there would be more daily deaths Involving horses and garden fences than racing fences ever have done.

The only disgrace is 3 horses dying,typical press blaming those who try to stop animals dying

I agree with you Joey.

I personally feel like the main appeal of the Grand National should be seeing some of the best Horses taking each other on, not how big the fences are.

I’ll never get how anyone could enjoy this death race. Imagine watching something where you know those majestic, beautiful animals are going to be whipped and some killed in front of your eyes for entertainment and a little flutter. How far have we come from Medieval Times, eh?

The best horses would jump the big fences

Actually this for me.

I adore animals and respect all life.
To breed to risk killing for sport is something I abhor.

Plus the notion they are well looked after is pie in the sky as to some owners.
If they don't deliver on the racecourse, plus once they are more aged and not suitable to race anymore.
Their next fate can be anything from being discarded or sent to slaughter.

I love animals.
The real people wrong yesterday were those glorifying in a race that sees deaths every year now.

Horses are intelligent and beautiful beings.
This race now really is a grand national DISGRACE, it shouldn't be a legitimate race.
That's my view from MY deep love of all animals.
I wouldn't ever risk putting any animal into an event where it COULD more likely be killed.
So I'll take no lectures from those who would and even seem to enjoy seeing it done too.

I noticed this year, after the race
Horses got more buckets of water over them.
As they are so Hot after that race

100% agree Joey.

:clap1: :clap1:

good

cancel grand national

Yes a good welfare move

Well said Joey..

While televised yes, well and truly to the leading ones.

Would be interesting to see what was afforded to the ones who didn't do so well or live up to owners expectations in the race.

Some ended up with injuries, another had to be killed.
Cool water not any consolation to any of them.

However selectively look at the lip service kind of caring while in the public eye if you must..
While completely avoiding the REAL horrors of this event to the others.

it should be renamed the death race as that is what it is and bloody well said Joey,my sentiments exactly,you cant say you are an animal lover if you are prepared to turn a blind eye at this 3 horses died yesterday,needlessly,its fooking abhorent. Money over animal welfare for most.

The best horses would walk away given the chance Parmy.

Fair enough on that.

But the best Horses can still be celebrated while being safer than it currently is.

I get that the odd incident will happen sadly, but 22 Horses failing to complete the race is more than an incident, especially with 3 of the Horses dead.

You got to laugh or you'de cry, news saying the horse racing committee Is looking into
Saturdays debarcle saying their thoughts are with all the trainers jockeys and owners of the horses !!!!!!! NOTHING about the loss of the horses, oh well I'm sure they can soon be replaced to make them money, bloody low lifes.

Most Sports Organizations (including FIFA in this) only really care about making money, unfortunately they don't really care about anything else, they just pretend to care.

The only compliment I can give the Horse Racing Committee is that they appear to be more honest about it.

Low lifes is a good description.

They're looking into it.
They say.
How many times have lies been told that that disgrace of a race has been made safer.
Yet clearly it hasn't.
So what next, they'll look into it again.

Ignorant lying uncaring low lifes as you indicate.

I cannot really print what I'd like to about that disgraceful committee.
However I'll tell them why the Horses were killed..
Because they've done nothing about that cruel bloodsport of a race and event, that's WHY!!!
Shameful and despicable.

[Grand National: Protesters are to blame for my
horse's death, trainer claims

Hill Sixteen - trained by Sandy Thomson - suffered a
fatal fall at the first fence,
but the Scottish handler blames animal rights activists
for causing the "hyper" horse to die.]


See Kaz
the Full Picture now coming out.


https://news.sky.com/story/grand-nat...death-12859159

That's speculation rather than evidence.

Oh arista,lol of course they will blame anyone but themselves,so what about all the others that have been killed without the protesters there? So sorry, no one to blame but the racing fraternity, racing killed the horses not delays,if anything the delay gave them a little more life!! Such as it is.

Simple fact, if the race were not run, the horses wouldn't have died. Blaming the protestors is insulting

Where is that the full picture??

Didn't the police have protesters arrested before the race was started.
If not WHY did they start the race when they did???

You may see this as the full picture actually all it is, is smudging over the full picture.
To transfer any blame from the cruel and maybe inept handlers who can't or won't read their horses emotions.

What about all the around 15 Horses killed for entertainment in this race since the year 2000.
Were they all hyper from protesters??

You get to know Horses, they respond to you.
They demonstrate their willingness and reluctance from their own intelligence..
Good owners, trainers and handlers know their Horses inside out.

Where was this handler screaming not to let it run because it was too hyper?
That handler really was shocking and inept to see a horse race they believed was too hyper to do so in such a dangerous race.

Nothing was said at the start because what the handler NOW is saying is more utter tripe to cover up for a bad owner, trainer and handlers.

However keep on with the protection of the greed of this race, the more bad ownership, bad trainers and handlers.
Rather than respect the lives of beautiful beings such as Horses and blame their deaths on anything and anyone other than this now despicable race.
Even to blame the poor Horse itself.
Shocking.

Just proves Joey, the welfare of the horses was never considered,but the loss of money was,hence the race went ahead regardless of what that horse trainer said that they were getting impatient etc,what a load of bollox,he must think we are all as stipid as him.

Exactly Kazanne.

The real welfare of the Horses is not only way down the list, it's not even likely on the list of priorities.

Greed, pure greed.

It makes me cringe when they say these racehorses have lives of luxury almost.
If they're successful in races, they will likely be, for as long as they remain successful.
For the majority of other Horses, their lives are not all that wonderful as they get pushed more and more to become successful.
If they never do much then they get discarded to any who'll give the best price for them.
Or they'll end up being sent to slaughter.
Some of the owners not giving a damn what happens as long as they get rid of them.

So much for supposed good lives.
I honestly think any really caring or decent Racehorse owner would never put one of his Horses in this despicable grand (huh), national race now.